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  • Btj98
    Rookie
    • Mar 2018
    • 69

    #1

    Not enough injuries in franchise

    I know this may seem like a very small issue but i have to bring this to the light. Madden the past few years just does not have enough injuries in franchise mode. On average there are around 50-60 players on the injury report in madden 23 which is around 1-2 players per team. I don’t have the official numbers but i know that this is no where near accurate to what the real NFL is. This affects the team building aspect of the game as players can just load up on good starters and not have to worry about the depth of their roster. In theory the simple solution should be to just raise the injury slider to be able to get the results that i want but unfortunately the injury slider does not affect injuries while simming games. Does anyone have any solutions or thoughts on this topic?
  • ynkeecwby
    Rookie
    • Jul 2022
    • 127

    #2
    Re: Not enough injuries in franchise

    Originally posted by Btj98
    In theory the simple solution should be to just raise the injury slider to be able to get the results that i want but unfortunately the injury slider does not affect injuries while simming games. Does anyone have any solutions or thoughts on this topic?
    I wasn’t aware of the injury slider not affecting sim games. So injuries when I sim are just done at whatever under the hood algorithm EA put in?

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    • Btj98
      Rookie
      • Mar 2018
      • 69

      #3
      Re: Not enough injuries in franchise

      Originally posted by ynkeecwby
      I wasn’t aware of the injury slider not affecting sim games. So injuries when I sim are just done at whatever under the hood algorithm EA put in?

      Correct from what i was told the injury slider does not affect injuries while simming games. The annoying part is that it used to work like this back in madden 20 and they changed it in madden 21. As of today the devs are the only people that can change this and at the minimum need to increase it by at least double of what it is rn.

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      • Sphinx
        Emerald Archer
        • Aug 2010
        • 877

        #4
        Re: Not enough injuries in franchise

        The only workaround I have found for this is using a dummy account and controlling the other teams and super simming their games. Super sim uses the injury slider. So I usually will put it around 52-53 and super sim cpu games about 2-3 times a season. That usually gets injuries to a realistic place. By the end of the season you'll see them with multiple guys on IR and lots more parity.

        It just takes some added time to do. It can be done in online or offline franchise as well which is nice.

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        • Falcon17000
          Rookie
          • Nov 2016
          • 346

          #5
          Re: Not enough injuries in franchise

          Originally posted by Sphinx
          The only workaround I have found for this is using a dummy account and controlling the other teams and super simming their games. Super sim uses the injury slider. So I usually will put it around 52-53 and super sim cpu games about 2-3 times a season. That usually gets injuries to a realistic place. By the end of the season you'll see them with multiple guys on IR and lots more parity.

          It just takes some added time to do. It can be done in online or offline franchise as well which is nice.

          It works (also allows you to make sure depth charts are accurate etc), but it's also 45 minutes to make 31 dummy profiles and then countless hours having to micromanage the teams every week.

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          • Sphinx
            Emerald Archer
            • Aug 2010
            • 877

            #6
            Re: Not enough injuries in franchise

            Originally posted by Falcon17000
            It works (also allows you to make sure depth charts are accurate etc), but it's also 45 minutes to make 31 dummy profiles and then countless hours having to micromanage the teams every week.
            I just create one profile and retire it after the supersim and join the next team. on the list, rinse repeat. Last year, I was getting it done in about 30 minutes or so. It's a pain but at least for me, worth to have a little bit more realism.

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            • Mattanite
              MVP
              • Sep 2015
              • 1716

              #7
              Re: Not enough injuries in franchise

              I did some analysis last year.

              https://forums.operationsports.com/f...-injuries.html

              One thing I need to check is do injury ratings affect frequency of injuries in sim, if they do then a quicker way would be to use the roster analysis spreadsheet and scale down all player injuries in a single roster and then repeat after each draft for rookies.
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              • Btj98
                Rookie
                • Mar 2018
                • 69

                #8
                Re: Not enough injuries in franchise

                Originally posted by Mattanite
                I did some analysis last year.

                https://forums.operationsports.com/f...-injuries.html

                One thing I need to check is do injury ratings affect frequency of injuries in sim, if they do then a quicker way would be to use the roster analysis spreadsheet and scale down all player injuries in a single roster and then repeat after each draft for rookies.
                Yes this is the thread i remember from last year and the research i was referring to so thank you Mattanite. I believe you and I were talking to swami last year about this topic but it sucks to see they couldn't get around to adjusting this. Hopefully there will be a fix for it soon.

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                • Doctorduck10
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2017
                  • 23

                  #9
                  Re: Not enough injuries in franchise

                  Originally posted by Mike Lowe
                  Agree with you all in here. Even worse, QBs now never EVER get hurt, not even in simmed games.

                  This is what will prevent me from ordering the game. Huge bummer.

                  I created an injury generator app which is in here somewhere that will help somewhat. If anyone's interested I'll post the link.

                  Simming a season myself while checking injuries every week and I'm seeing very few injuries. On week 15 and most teams have one to three players out for a couple weeks at most with some having no injuries at all. I did see Davis Mills miss four weeks with a foot fracture but that is the only QB injury so far. I spent one game taking Trey Lance and letting him get hit on every play and he never got hurt

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                  • LeBlonde James
                    VFL
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 586

                    #10
                    Re: Not enough injuries in franchise

                    Originally posted by Sphinx
                    The only workaround I have found for this is using a dummy account and controlling the other teams and super simming their games. Super sim uses the injury slider. So I usually will put it around 52-53 and super sim cpu games about 2-3 times a season. That usually gets injuries to a realistic place. By the end of the season you'll see them with multiple guys on IR and lots more parity.



                    It just takes some added time to do. It can be done in online or offline franchise as well which is nice.
                    This is what I've been doing for the past couple years, every week though. Along with more injuries, it's good for keeping up with how other teams are doing week to week. Also feel like stats are a little better for the season this way.

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                    • Sphinx
                      Emerald Archer
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 877

                      #11
                      Re: Not enough injuries in franchise

                      Originally posted by Mike Lowe
                      Goodness though doesn't that take forever?! I'm intrigued.
                      Not really. I think maybe the first time around it takes longer but after you do it a few weeks, I can get most of the games I want supersimmed done in 20-30 minutes. I usually just go off of how many injuries the team already has, and if they have a lot already I just skip that team on super sim. By mid season, I'm usually only doing a few games. It helps add so much to the mode and you get qb injuries do this. Just in my test last night, I saw Lamar go down for the season and Brady go down for a few weeks.
                      Last edited by Sphinx; 08-17-2022, 05:17 PM. Reason: typo

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                      • LeBlonde James
                        VFL
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 586

                        #12
                        Re: Not enough injuries in franchise

                        Originally posted by Mike Lowe
                        Goodness though doesn't that take forever?! I'm intrigued.
                        Yeah ^ It takes around 20-30 minutes. For me it's a good thing. In the past I would get through a season fast then next thing I know I'm 4 years deep and getting bored with the franchise. Plus I only play about 9 games a season and sim my teams other games... usually 4 games in division and then pick 5 non division matchups to play. Just makes it more interesting for me.

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                        • PhillyPhanatic14
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 4824

                          #13
                          Re: Not enough injuries in franchise

                          I see a ton of injuries to CPU teams. I've not had many on my team (2 guys out for 6 weeks each and a couple for a game here or there), but I'm only in week 12 of season 1. In the news section I'm seeing multiple players with season enders most weeks around the league.

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                          • extremeskins04
                            That's top class!
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 3864

                            #14
                            Re: Not enough injuries in franchise

                            The injury slider does work when you're SuperSimming games though. I tested this last night.

                            Instead of just simming games from the regular franchise menu screen, go start a game, and super sim on FAST. Injuries will happen.

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                            • TDKing
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 1845

                              #15
                              Re: Not enough injuries in franchise

                              Originally posted by PhillyPhanatic14
                              I see a ton of injuries to CPU teams. I've not had many on my team (2 guys out for 6 weeks each and a couple for a game here or there), but I'm only in week 12 of season 1. In the news section I'm seeing multiple players with season enders most weeks around the league.
                              Are you seeing QB injuries?


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