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  • alabamarob
    MVP
    • Nov 2010
    • 3329

    #1

    Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

    A lot of us complained about the unrealistic shooting percentages on open shots ever since 2k started with perfect releases.

    Guys were shooting 60 to 70 percent from on open 3s, and you could turn a poor shooter into a great shooter by perfecting a release.

    With the new shooting options you can now go back to guys missing open shots, and more realistic jump shooting numbers. On Normal risk, normal reward you can’t green every shot. Even with a perfect release.

    WHO will keep using the high risk and high reward shooting option, now that we have options a more realistic option? And why?
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  • EccentricMeat
    MVP
    • Aug 2011
    • 3227

    #2
    Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

    Online players will, surely. Mostly an ego thing IMO, they assume it means timing is more difficult and therefore if they green everything then they’re basically a pro (the mindset that is killing modern online gaming, but I digress).

    Do the other shot timing profiles really make it harder to green shots? I’m using Low Risk-Reward, and I thought the only difference was that “Slightly Early/Slightly Late” timed shots go in at a higher rate. It effects your ability to green them as well?
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    • mikenoob
      All Star
      • Oct 2007
      • 5545

      #3
      Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

      Originally posted by EccentricMeat
      Online players will, surely. Mostly an ego thing IMO, they assume it means timing is more difficult and therefore if they green everything then they’re basically a pro (the mindset that is killing modern online gaming, but I digress).

      Do the other shot timing profiles really make it harder to green shots? I’m using Low Risk-Reward, and I thought the only difference was that [emoji7]”Slightly Early/Slightly Late” timed shots go in at a higher rate. It effects your ability to green them as well?
      It does affect your green window. High risk has a bigger green window

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      • EccentricMeat
        MVP
        • Aug 2011
        • 3227

        #4
        Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

        Originally posted by mikenoob
        It does affect your green window. High risk has a bigger green window

        Interesting. So I should assume Low Risk has the smallest green window? That’s fantastic if so.
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        • kolanji
          Pro
          • Sep 2009
          • 872

          #5
          Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

          Originally posted by mikenoob
          It does affect your green window. High risk has a bigger green window
          I was of the opinion that difficulty level ( pro, allstar etc…) was the deciding factor of green window
          And risk is just timings penalties
          Humans fear what they dont understand, hate what they cant concur i guess its just the theory of man

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          • Gosens6
            All Star
            • Oct 2007
            • 6099

            #6
            Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

            Originally posted by kolanji
            I was of the opinion that difficulty level ( pro, allstar etc…) was the deciding factor of green window
            And risk is just timings penalties
            There’s an option to use difficulty based timing as well

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            • alabamarob
              MVP
              • Nov 2010
              • 3329

              #7
              Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

              Originally posted by EccentricMeat
              Online players will, surely. Mostly an ego thing IMO, they assume it means timing is more difficult and therefore if they green everything then they’re basically a pro (the mindset that is killing modern online gaming, but I digress).

              Do the other shot timing profiles really make it harder to green shots? I’m using Low Risk-Reward, and I thought the only difference was that “Slightly Early/Slightly Late” timed shots go in at a higher rate. It effects your ability to green them as well?
              2k lab did a breakdown, and I can confirm from playing that it is more than that. High risk has a bigger green window AND a 100 percent pure green window.

              Normal risk has no pure green window. Even if you time the shot perfectly, there is only a 60 percent chance it will green. This, there is no purely green window.

              Originally posted by mikenoob
              It does affect your green window. High risk has a bigger green window
              High risk has a 100 percent green window. Normal does not. That’s the key difference more than the green window size.


              Originally posted by kolanji
              I was of the opinion that difficulty level ( pro, allstar etc…) was the deciding factor of green window
              And risk is just timings penalties
              That is correct. Difficulty can affect window size, but it doesn’t affect pure green window versus non pure green window.

              Last edited by alabamarob; 09-06-2024, 01:18 PM.
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              • runnerwest
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                • Sep 2023
                • 67

                #8
                Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

                this makes sense for the park and stuff but not pno where you literally have to know the jumpshots for like 200+ players and constantly using new teams i hate how all this park and myplayer stuff has trickled down into the nba game. they shoulda just left it without all these shooting options that are just making everything more complicated

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                • EccentricMeat
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 3227

                  #9
                  Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

                  Originally posted by alabamarob
                  2k lab did a breakdown, and I can confirm from playing that it is more than that. High risk has a bigger green window AND a 100 percent pure green window.

                  Normal risk has no pure green window. Even if you time the shot perfectly, there is only a 60 percent chance it will green. This, there is no purely green window.



                  High risk has a 100 percent green window. Normal does not. That’s the key difference more than the green window size.




                  That is correct. Difficulty can affect window size, but it doesn’t affect pure green window versus non pure green window.

                  https://youtube.com/shorts/8nhmQ6Qgj...5Azmve12gva_La

                  Wait, so even if you time it perfectly on the Low/Normal Risk profile, it’s RNG whether the game counts it as green timed? Or is it more that the green window shifts in response to defensive contests, like how the window would shrink in 2K24 if a defender contested mid-shot animation?

                  I don’t have an issue with either scenario btw, just trying to understand the settings. I use Low Risk-Reward specifically so that user timing only plays a part in the outcome, and is not the sole deciding factor. I want the user timing to decide if you CAN make a shot (where if you time it poorly it simply won’t go in, but if you time it well then it depends on ratings and defense). This would also explain why I randomly get a Slightly Early/Slightly Late release when it feels like I released at the exact point a previous shot gave me a green release [emoji28]

                  My timing isn’t off, it’s the game that is wrong! https://youtu.be/-dFqIqCMT9E?feature=shared
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                  • The 24th Letter
                    ERA
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 39373

                    #10
                    Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

                    Originally posted by runnerwest
                    this makes sense for the park and stuff but not pno where you literally have to know the jumpshots for like 200+ players and constantly using new teams i hate how all this park and myplayer stuff has trickled down into the nba game. they shoulda just left it without all these shooting options that are just making everything more complicated

                    PNO isn’t set to High Risk


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                    • alabamarob
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3329

                      #11
                      Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

                      I am not sure about low risk, but I know there is no 100 percent make window for normal risk.

                      I believe that only high risk reward and difficulty based has a 100 percent make window.
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                      • alabamarob
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3329

                        #12
                        Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

                        Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                        PNO isn’t set to High Risk


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                        You can’t go into the control settings during one and choose your own shooting preferences?
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                        • runnerwest
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                          • Sep 2023
                          • 67

                          #13
                          Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

                          Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                          PNO isn’t set to High Risk


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                          what is it set to? from my understanding its whatever the users preferences are that apply to all modes -- needa see sources cuz im tryna figure out what difficulty PNO is set on


                          Originally posted by alabamarob
                          You can’t go into the control settings during one and choose your own shooting preferences?
                          you can change visual cue timing i think so push release etc but not the high risk difficulty based etc settings which is confusing because why would they change it for just PNO
                          Last edited by runnerwest; 09-06-2024, 05:20 PM.

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                          • The 24th Letter
                            ERA
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 39373

                            #14
                            Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

                            Originally posted by runnerwest
                            what is it set to? and u got sources or?



                            you can change visual cue timing i think so push release etc but not the high risk difficulty based etc settings which is confusing because why would they change it for just PNO

                            Originally posted by alabamarob
                            You can’t go into the control settings during one and choose your own shooting preferences?

                            A better way to put it is that PNO isn’t locked into High Risk like Pro-Am or Proving Grounds. You can set your shot profile to whatever you want.

                            Source is that slightly early’s and late’s still go in


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                            • jk31
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 2654

                              #15
                              Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

                              and then we have online leagues where you cannot change the setting. or to me more specific, you can change it but is has no effect at all...

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