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  • Jukeman
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    • Aug 2005
    • 10963

    #61
    Originally posted by RDZ29
    So you think they become less agressive if they have a lower OVR?

    That makes sense to me, because once I edited everyone to -50 at Grapple/Strike power, I was winning alot more, even matches I prolly shouldn't of. Guys like Cena and Orton just werent that agressive.

    I switched back to the default OVRs earlier and there playing like they did when i first got the game.
    First impression after playing around with the attributes, I have to say yea.


    Durability-

    I maxed everyone out to see how it affected the royal rumble.

    Some guys cant go over 80, some cant go over 90 or 95 and super heavies can max to 100. If this attribute def influence damage (need more test matches) then I MAY have to make a scale because as of now Cena tops at 90 while a midcarder like Dibiase has a 95..

    I also noticed that on the default, the durabilty attribute is VERY low across the board on most superstars and Im talking in the 60's 70's. Heck, CM Punk even has a 75.

    Its also weird that they removed the durabilty ability where you could regenerate health (No, it doesnt regenerate automatically this year)



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    Last edited by Jukeman; 11-25-2011, 02:53 PM.

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    • RDZ29
      Rookie
      • Feb 2011
      • 140

      #62
      Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

      Originally posted by Jukeman
      First impression after playing around with the attributes, I have to say yea.

      I maxed everyone out to see how it affected the royal rumble.

      Some guys cant go over 80, some cant go over 90 or 95 and super heavies can max to 100. If this attribute def influence damage (need more test matches) then I MAY have to make a scale because as of now Cena tops at 90 while a midcarder like Dibiase has a 95..

      I also noticed that on the default, the duribilty attribute is VERY low on mist superstarts, Im talking in the 60's 70's, CM Punk even has a 75.



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      Yeah I noticed there are alot of superstars around 70-75

      Is there anything I can help with, test some matches with different durability levels and i'll post?

      What Sliders are you playing on?
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      • Jukeman
        Showtime
        • Aug 2005
        • 10963

        #63
        Originally posted by RDZ29
        Yeah I noticed there are alot of superstars around 70-75

        Is there anything I can help with, test some matches with different durability levels and i'll post?

        What Sliders are you playing on?
        Yes it would help to get a second opinion on it.

        I played at least 10 one on one matches with the setting but I'm still not sure because it is hard to tell when there is no hud meter (I always seem to forget to check my progress through limb targeting)

        I plan on playing with default everything today so I can compare.

        As for sliders-

        I have the basics.

        -Finisher Revs and Damaged Max (both AI & User)

        -Same as above for weapons (for now)

        -Adrenaline max

        -Everything else at default

        Im on Legend with the meter at slow.

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        • RDZ29
          Rookie
          • Feb 2011
          • 140

          #64
          Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

          Originally posted by Jukeman
          Yes it would help to get a second opinion on it.

          I played at least 10 one on one matches with the setting but I'm still not sure because it is hard to tell when there is no hud meter (I always seem to forget to check my progress through limb targeting)

          I plan on playing with default everything today so I can compare.

          As for sliders-

          I have the basics.

          -Finisher Revs and Damaged Max (both AI & User)

          -Same as above for weapons (for now)

          -Adrenaline max

          -Everything else at default

          Im on Legend with the meter at slow.

          -


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          Ok i'll put those sliders in, so do you want me to test default durability and see how long they last and then put there durability higher and test to see if its any different?(longer Match then before)

          Or are you doing something different?
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          • Jukeman
            Showtime
            • Aug 2005
            • 10963

            #65
            Originally posted by RDZ29
            Ok i'll put those sliders in, so do you want me to test default durability and see how long they last and then put there durability higher and test to see if its any different?(longer Match then before)

            Or are you doing something different?
            Yea that'll work.

            My first couple matches with the game (default) were no more then 5 mins. Since the edit I get matches going from 9-10 mins. I only played 3 matches on default out the box settings tho..


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            • RDZ29
              Rookie
              • Feb 2011
              • 140

              #66
              Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

              Originally posted by Jukeman
              Yea that'll work.

              My first couple matches with the game (default) were no more then 5 mins. Since the edit I get matches going from 9-10 mins. I only played 3 matches on default out the box settings tho..


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              Whats the Edit? (durability higher then default)

              Im about to play my first match on Default OVRs (default dur.)

              To make sure

              Legend Difficulty

              Everthing Default other than Finisher Reversal, Foreign Attack, Damage, and Adrenaline which are all maxed out for both player and cpu.
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              • RDZ29
                Rookie
                • Feb 2011
                • 140

                #67
                Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

                Ok I just finished a match, default Durability

                DZ(me) vs Kofi(70 durability at default)

                at about the 3 min mark, Kofi was yellow head and torso

                at about 4:30-5:00 mark, he became orange head and torso

                and at 6:19 DZ beat Kofi with the ZigZag

                Im going to increase Kofi's Durability to max and see if can go longer. Will post when done
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                • RDZ29
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 140

                  #68
                  Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

                  Kofi is now a 95 at durability and a 88 OVR

                  DZ vs Kofi (im DZ)

                  I could tell Kofi was alot better because of the 88 OVR

                  at the 5 min mark, Kofi was yellow head, torso

                  Sig/finisher by DZ at 6 mins in.....Kofi actually kicked out

                  Kofi had a orange head and yellow torso

                  Kofi did his comeback at 8 mins in and did his finisher, I barely kicked out at 2 and a half

                  9 mins in I beat Kofi with a leverage pin

                  Kingston was alot better this time, and more agressive
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                  • Jukeman
                    Showtime
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 10963

                    #69
                    Originally posted by RDZ29
                    Whats the Edit? (durability higher then default)

                    Im about to play my first match on Default OVRs (default dur.)

                    To make sure

                    Legend Difficulty

                    Everthing Default other than Finisher Reversal, Foreign Attack, Damage, and Adrenaline which are all maxed out for both player and cpu.
                    Yea correct, I didnt do anything fancy with durability yet, I just maxed it on for the selected superstar. Ive been running alot of Matches with Dolp vs CM Punk if that help


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                    • Jukeman
                      Showtime
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 10963

                      #70
                      Originally posted by RDZ29
                      Kofi is now a 95 at durability and a 88 OVR

                      DZ vs Kofi (im DZ)

                      I could tell Kofi was alot better because of the 88 OVR

                      at the 5 min mark, Kofi was yellow head, torso

                      Sig/finisher by DZ at 6 mins in.....Kofi actually kicked out

                      Kofi had a orange head and yellow torso

                      Kofi did his comeback at 8 mins in and did his finisher, I barely kicked out at 2 and a half

                      9 mins in I beat Kofi with a leverage pin

                      Kingston was alot better this time, and more agressive
                      Yea that seem about right, Ive noticed the yellow coming in around the 5 min mark.


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                      • Steven547
                        MVP
                        • May 2004
                        • 3800

                        #71
                        Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

                        I'm doing the edits that were mentioned previously (lower Strk / Grp by 50, etc). I'm getting good results. I watched a CPU vs CPU match between CM Punk and Christian. Match went back and forth with kick outs, etc. Punk won it with his GTS in about 15 mins.

                        I understand everyone wants longer matches, but my main concern is "realism". I certainly don't want the Santino's beating everyone. So I'm adjusting.

                        My plan, like I did last year and got good "realistic" results, is to adjust all wrestlers now. Then have a compare against each rating to each wrestler (I'm an analyst, used to doing this stuff! haha) And this will tell me how they rate against the other wrestlers, and alert me if an attribute needs to be raised / lowered.

                        Undertaker's strike power should be higher than the Santino's, etc. That kind of thing.

                        I've lowered all AI Reversal sliders to 0. I want the reversals to be based off the WRESTLER's ability, not when the CPU decides it wants to win, etc.

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                        • RDZ29
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 140

                          #72
                          Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

                          Originally posted by Jukeman
                          Yea that seem about right, Ive noticed the yellow coming in around the 5 min mark.


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                          Im gonna play more matches with different types of people (jobbers, Mid Carders, Main Eventers) and see what happends

                          If the durability is what makes the match go on a bit longer, what do you plan on doing with it. Just maxing it out for everyone would seem odd because guys like Evan, Kofi, Dbryan, Ziggler would have a higher durability then Cena and Orton.
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                          • Jukeman
                            Showtime
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 10963

                            #73
                            Originally posted by RDZ29
                            Im gonna play more matches with different types of people (jobbers, Mid Carders, Main Eventers) and see what happends

                            If the durability is what makes the match go on a bit longer, what do you plan on doing with it. Just maxing it out for everyone would seem odd because guys like Evan, Kofi, Dbryan, Ziggler would have a higher durability then Cena and Orton.
                            I plan to make a scale, right now Im just trying to figure things out.

                            Maybe a drastic change of -50 on strike/grapple isnt needed. Just weighting options and seeing what does what before changing anything.

                            At the end of the day I rather have high durability over low offense power tho because it makes the Royal Rumble 10x better, not to mention the AI seem easier with a low OVR

                            Maybe a few of us can collab on attribute ratings. Its still early so who knows?


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                            Last edited by Jukeman; 11-25-2011, 04:06 PM.

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                            • RDZ29
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                              • Feb 2011
                              • 140

                              #74
                              Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

                              Originally posted by Jukeman
                              I plan to make a scale, right now Im just trying to figure things out.

                              Maybe a drastic change of -50 on strike/grapple isnt needed. Just weighting options and seeing what does what before changing anything.

                              Maybe a few of us can collab on attribute ratings. Its still early so who knows?


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                              Ok cool, I hope we find a different way to get good long matches other then -50 at attributes.
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                              • Jukeman
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                                • Aug 2005
                                • 10963

                                #75
                                Originally posted by RDZ29
                                Ok cool, I hope we find a different way to get good long matches other then -50 at attributes.
                                True, we still have recovery to play around with also. Maybe the -50 become a -25 or less.


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