Madden NFL 25 - How To Stop The Read Option (MyMaddenPad)

[Trick13]

Quote: Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas

I would say they're going to account for the most fumbles but you'd have to look at the amount of fumbles that come from designed runs and scrambles rather than just total fumbles. QB's always usually have high(er) fumble numbers than anybody else because of the amount of strip sack type plays, fumbled snaps, etc.

I understand that as well, but I almost never get fumbles on sacks - despite leading the league in sacks, or being right there near the league lead. Even across multiple CCMs. I have lead the league in sacks in 6 of 8 years in my solo CCM, and a few times in online leagues and never been close to league lead in FFs...

So, imo, strip sacks and such in the pocket are under represented as is. Designed QB runs/scrambles where the QBs cross the LOS irritate me more for the grotesquely high rate of broken tackles. Not saying they should not be able to break tackles or evade tackles, but they are, currently in M13, far more dangerous than they should be in terms of break tackle.

I mean when Sam Bradford is trucking fools or shrugging off massive DTs - huge issue. Even CPU is way too effective with QBs on the run at break tackle. Because of the need to adjust sliders to get RBs on CPU teams to be effective it really punks out the fact that QBs are way over powered...

[californ14]

Quote: Originally Posted by Trick13

I understand that as well, but I almost never get fumbles on sacks - despite leading the league in sacks, or being right there near the league lead. Even across multiple CCMs. I have lead the league in sacks in 6 of 8 years in my solo CCM, and a few times in online leagues and never been close to league lead in FFs... So, imo, strip sacks and such in the pocket are under represented as is. Designed QB runs/scrambles where the QBs cross the LOS irritate me more for the grotesquely high rate of broken tackles. Not saying they should not be able to break tackles or evade tackles, but they are, currently in M13, far more dangerous than they should be in terms of break tackle. I mean when Sam Bradford is trucking fools or shrugging off massive DTs - huge issue. Even CPU is way too effective with QBs on the run at break tackle. Because of the need to adjust sliders to get RBs on CPU teams to be effective it really punks out the fact that QBs are way over powered...

Qb's and their ability to truck and bounce off hits is one of my main examples of why I believe Strength accounts more towards mass/power than a true strength....Just more of EA's blunders, potentially; it would not be much of a blunder if EA adjusted their ratings properly or adjusted their engine ...But I digress...

[hanzsomehanz]

Quote: Originally Posted by Trick13

I agree it is a huge problem, was just wondering if the actual NFL stats indicate in terms of percentages that QBs are the highest group in fumbles. Like, of all NFL fumbles from last season, what percentage are QBs responsible for?

I have some rough, general data.

Outside of QB, your average skill player has a percent of fumbling on any attempt (catch or rush) that is just shy of 1%!

KR/PR specialists are about double that figure so we can correlate their is about double the chance of fumbling on a special teams run.

QBs fumble on rush attempts about 5-6% more than their offensive skillset partners (RB, WR, TE). That number doubles on average for sack-fumbles which presupposes a year-to-year sack-fum% of 10-12%.

If you take the total average of sack-fum% and rush-fum% you are looking at a general total QB fum% between 15 and 18% on average year-to-year.

I, for this reason supported above, prefer to use the Intentional Grounding penalty slider around this perimeter of 15-20 as it concerns the QBs ability to avoid sacks (and picks). Of course, you can directly impact fumbles universally through the fumble slider and tackle slider.

A Madden blogger has some insight on fumble percentages here:

http://maddenmanniac.blogspot.ca/201...y-car.html?m=1

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