NBA 2K12 Patch 1.03 Released (PS3) - Patch Notes

[Knickerbocker]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mos1ted

I specifically stressed in the thread that Beluba made that 3 point accuracy wasn't necessarily the issue; defensive presence was. But what this patch has done was make defensive presence matter more, which it should, but they also decreased 3 point accuracy as well, an unnecessary change in my opinion. So now you're punished for taking good, wide open shots too.

No they didn't. Read the patch notes contested 3s are toned down. While it wouldnt hurt if open ones would be too, since everyone with over 60 rating is raining them in. Just went 5 from 5 with Rubio for example. Not everyone should be hiting open threes but specialists. NBA player miss plenty of open threes during games while on 2k they don't. Well at least if you know the release.

[Mos1ted]

Quote: Originally Posted by Knickerbocker

No they didn't. Read the patch notes contested 3s are toned down. While it wouldnt hurt if open ones would be too, since everyone with over 60 rating is raining them in. Just went 5 from 5 with Rubio for example. Not everyone should be hiting open threes but specialists. NBA player miss plenty of open threes during games while on 2k they don't. Well at least if you know the release.

I played five online games yesterday and one game offline: open three's were affected by the patch, too. How else do you think contested three's are less successful? They had to lower the success rate of three's altogether. Now, I'm not saying that marginal three point shooters should be automatic when left open, but really good three point shooters can be automatic if left open. That's why there's defense in the first place. Defense should determine shot success and nothing else.

[krakdol]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mos1ted

Now, I'm not saying that marginal three point shooters should be automatic when left open, but really good three point shooters can be automatic if left open. That's why there's defense in the first place. Defense should determine shot success and nothing else.

Yeah, no kidding. Good 3 pt shooters should be 100 % when uncontested, like in real life.

Wait...

[Knickerbocker]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mos1ted

I played five online games yesterday and one game offline: open three's were affected by the patch, too. How else do you think contested three's are less successful? They had to lower the success rate of three's altogether. Now, I'm not saying that marginal three point shooters should be automatic when left open, but really good three point shooters can be automatic if left open. That's why there's defense in the first place. Defense should determine shot success and nothing else.

I played enough games to know open shoot with even decent shooters are still automatic.

[Mos1ted]

Quote: Originally Posted by krakdol

Yeah, no kidding. Good 3 pt shooters should be 100 % when uncontested, like in real life. Wait...

First of all, unless you're a PS3 user with the patch, your opinion is irrelevant to me right now. Check my join date; I've been here a long time. You're using sarcasm with me like I'm some 2K newb or something. I'm 28 years old, guy. I've been around the sport of basketball for over 20 years, probably longer than you've existed on this Earth.

Common sense tells me that no shooter can make 100% of their shots uncontested. That isn't the case in real life, and that wasn't the case before the patch. The problem pre-patch was the amount of contested 3 pointers that were dropping. 2K's remedy to fix that has unintentionally (I assume) affected open 3's as well. Are open 3's impossible to make? No, but their success rate now is actually below what that player is probably capable of in real life. For this to be a "sim" game, that's far from sim.

However...check this vid



Look how effortlessly Ray Allen is making these three's in practice. Now in a live game, he has two factors affecting his ability to do this in game: defense and fatigue.

So focus less on being a smart *** and more on seeing where people are coming from with their gripes with the game.

[Mos1ted]

Quote: Originally Posted by Knickerbocker

I played enough games to know open shoot with even decent shooters are still automatic.

I would love to know if this is online or offline.

[Knickerbocker]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mos1ted

I would love to know if this is online or offline.

Online, if your prob is offline you should just raise the slider and voila. Unless it's my player but I think there šhouldn't be a difference between online corections and offline in this patch.

[Knickerbocker]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mos1ted

First of all, unless you're a PS3 user with the patch, your opinion is irrelevant to me right now. Check my join date; I've been here a long time. You're using sarcasm with me like I'm some 2K newb or something. I'm 28 years old, guy. I've been around the sport of basketball for over 20 years, probably longer than you've existed on this Earth. Common sense tells me that no shooter can make 100% of their shots uncontested. That isn't the case in real life, and that wasn't the case before the patch. The problem pre-patch was the amount of contested 3 pointers that were dropping. 2K's remedy to fix that has unintentionally (I assume) affected open 3's as well. Are open 3's impossible to make? No, but their success rate now is actually below what that player is probably capable of in real life. For this to be a "sim" game, that's far from sim. However...check this vid Look how effortlessly Ray Allen is making these three's in practice. Now in a live game, he has two factors affecting his ability to do this in game: defense and fatigue. So focus less on being a smart *** and more on seeing where people are coming from with their gripes with the game.

That is Ray Allen ... And there are not only two factors, there is plenty of them as momentum, good day, bad day, crowd etc. etc. Very few players are as relaxed on the court as they are on practice and yeh I know sometimes they hit even more on court but that's another story.

As said before, at least for online even decent shooters hit too much open threes in my experience. I mentioned Rubio in a game I had just now Lebron went 5/6. While I know this is possible it is certainly not so common as in the game. So there should be more balancing, maybe lower sliders for 3pt and even higher 3pt ratings for trully Elite shooters.