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[wwharton]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rocky

Haha didn't even think about it like that. That said, the "one-read" QB thing is just lazy. Why not just say he doesn't go through progressions very well? Even then, the guy can function in a NFL offense. I'm not sure why that's even debatable.

It's not debatable... not a single person has said he can't function in an NFL offense. I also didn't say he was a one read QB so can't speak for whoever you were responding to that did, but isn't that just semantics? Bottom line is, he's not great and would require an offense molded around him in a nontraditional way to expect success. I can't speak for GMs but I'd say he's not good enough to be a starter with this kind of need, and is a risky backup unless your starter already is in a similar offense (like Seattle).

I believe the talk of one read (which you can say doesn't go through progressions if you want) was in response to the guy claiming he excels in accuracy, especially when jumping in the air (or something else crazy). Not true... he pretty much excels at running and how far he throws (can't even say excels at the deep ball bc I don't think he's all that accurate with that either).

[Rocky]

Quote: Originally Posted by wwharton

It's not debatable... not a single person has said he can't function in an NFL offense. I also didn't say he was a one read QB so can't speak for whoever you were responding to that did, but isn't that just semantics? Bottom line is, he's not great and would require an offense molded around him in a nontraditional way to expect success. I can't speak for GMs but I'd say he's not good enough to be a starter with this kind of need, and is a risky backup unless your starter already is in a similar offense (like Seattle). I believe the talk of one read (which you can say doesn't go through progressions if you want) was in response to the guy claiming he excels in accuracy, especially when jumping in the air (or something else crazy). Not true... he pretty much excels at running and how far he throws (can't even say excels at the deep ball bc I don't think he's all that accurate with that either).

I agree with you except the part where he is a risky backup. I don't agree with that at all. I actually think he is one of the better backups on the league if he accepts that. His biggest problem, imo, is his consistency. That problem isnt as heightened when he is a backup.

He's a better QB than a Derek Anderson or EJ Manuel in any system though.

[slickdtc]

EJ Manuel is completely terrible. I pity the Raiders. If Manuel has to play, they're ****ed. He'll make that offense look inept real quick.

[Majingir]

What's the main difference between limited and game jersey? I see one for $150 and other $100 but not sure how they're diff.

Also, any NFL fans in Canada, where's best places to find NFL jerseys, specifically the $100 ones? Preferably in store, not online.

[King_B_Mack]

Quote: Originally Posted by Majingir

What's the main difference between limited and game jersey? I see one for $150 and other $100 but not sure how they're diff. Also, any NFL fans in Canada, where's best places to find NFL jerseys, specifically the $100 ones? Preferably in store, not online.

The big thing to remember is that there are three types of NFL jersey that Nike makes. Elite, Limited and Game. Spoilers the rest for Tapatalk folks.

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Elites are the most expensive running at about 290-300 bucks a piece. They're the authentic jerseys though that are as close to the on field jerseys as possible. The unique look of the neck of the jerseys is only replicated on these jerseys, they're the only ones with the Flywire technology and water repelling fabric. They're also sized differently from the other two which go by the simple S,M,L, etc. these are sized by number with I believe 40 being the smallest and 60 the largest.

Limited are the middle ground jerseys that feature some but not nearly all the premium features of the Elite. They do have twill embroidered numbers and the strategic ventilation like the Elites. Those are the 150 ones.

Game are the $100 ones. They feature screen printed numbers.

Basically your choice will come down to whether you want screen printed name and numbers or sewn on name and numbers.

Use these pics for reference too. These are also a good way to spot fakes as they aren't nearly as detailed.



Check the differences in the neck, coloring, zoned ventilation in the stomach, lower back, under arm areas of the Elite as well compared to the others with these Titans jerseys. First one is the Elite, second the Limited and last Game.

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[slickdtc]

Lol elite. I remember when it was just replica (screen printed) and authentic (embroidered). That's good to know though I haven't bought a jersey since Willis McGahee.

In my experience, screen printed sucks. Worth the extra dough for embroidered.

[King_B_Mack]

Quote: Originally Posted by slickdtc

Lol elite. I remember when it was just replica (screen printed) and authentic (embroidered). That's good to know though I haven't bought a jersey since Willis McGahee. In my experience, screen printed sucks. Worth the extra dough for embroidered.

Yeah, every screen printed jersey I've ever had the quality has been worse than the embroidered in the material of the jersey and the numbers have eventually peeled off after enough washes/general wear and tear.


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[wwharton]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rocky

I agree with you except the part where he is a risky backup. I don't agree with that at all. I actually think he is one of the better backups on the league if he accepts that. His biggest problem, imo, is his consistency. That problem isnt as heightened when he is a backup. He's a better QB than a Derek Anderson or EJ Manuel in any system though.

That's not the argument (at least not mine) against him as a back up. If we had to find a starting QB from the pool of backups, he'd likely be at the top of the list. But the backup role for many teams isn't just the next best QB available. As mentioned before, it's possible that he needs to play in a certain type of system that is drastically different than the starter needs (and that the entire offense... especially the oline have practiced in). Suggesting that he can just adapt is just a guess. You may believe he can... I'm not making an opinion on it one way or another. Just throwing an educated guess as to why he's not getting as many offers as some think he should.