08:22 PM - August 18, 2012 by AzureEffectMadden NFL 13 News Post
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# 101
Randyfnrocks @ 08/19/12 12:39 PM
Im pretty new here I've been reading these forums for about the past month or so but I had to make an account to comment on this. It looks way too easy to trade up with CPU teams. I mean I admit it's hard to tell without knowing what those teams traded but just looking at the trade with the packers where he only gave up mark Ingram and a 3rd and a 5th didn't seem like enough to get the 11th pick he didn't even give up his 1st. Also how did the Ravens get 3 top 5 picks they had the 1st 2nd 5th and 15th picks. It's just that user teams traded up about 10 times in that draft so it doesn't seem like it would be fair online unless you're in a 32 team league
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# 104
moneal2001 @ 08/19/12 01:06 PM
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and of course in a human controlled league nobody questioned the pick.. height and spd at wr/te is the most valued thing to users but the cpu doesnt use those targets like users do.. and real teams dont value players like that.. if there was a 6'8 95 spd te 60ovr he'd be a #1 pick to users
its just in 2/3 drafts (and in one the top 3-4 picks were user controlled so really cpu drafting 2/2) we've seen, a te has gone #2 and wr and cb #1.. wr 1 has been takin 1st overall in the last 40 years or somethin and that was like 20 years ago.. a cb has never been takin #1..
nothin to do with madden but somebody did make a good point about rookie salary cap opening up the top 5 for any position and thats actually a good point i could see it happenin soon..
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ingram is still young tho and gb doesnt really have a #1 rb.. its hard to determine value for players for high picks because we rarely see it happen
# 107
fireworkfan @ 08/19/12 01:35 PM
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# 108
Humdinger80 @ 08/19/12 01:41 PM
So you mean to tell me the defenders in here would gamble their teams future on a a white dude named "Treon" at WR? And your 2nd overall pick should he not be picked before the 2nd coming of...Wes Welker, would be a TE!?! Not a protector of your franchise QB at LT? Or a pass rushing gamechanger DE? Shutdown CB? No. A TE. Ok then, all I know is NFL teams would never let your dumb a$$es anywhere near their board on draft day.
# 109
Humdinger80 @ 08/19/12 01:52 PM
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# 110
trevdawg0909 @ 08/19/12 01:52 PM
It looks cool, but with what I see as a major problem: the commentary keeps referring to FAKE NFL players!!!
In the video, Miami drafted TE - Marion Marks #2 overall and Trey Wingo said "Do any of you remember former NFL player Azriel Marks? If not you should. Marion Marks is his son." There never was a player named Azriel Marks in the NFL.
A few picks later, an OG named Kendrick Rose is drafted and Wingo says "Kendrick is the cousin of current NFL safety Keyon Rose." Well if you're playing a franchise, you'd be playing it with the real NFL players in the game. It's ridiculous to have the commentator refer to a made up player who's not even in the game as a "current NFL safety." The other issue with this is that the photo used for Kendrick Rose is of a white player. Not to be prejudiced or anything but wouldn't Kendrick and Keyon be most likely names of black players and not white?
On that same note, the #1 overall pick was Treon Martin - WR. (also shown as a white dude.) Names aside, how realistic is it that a white WR would be the #1 overall pick? Just saying....
Now a lot of you may think these are stupid complaints and that it shouldn't detract from the overall game at all. But the point is that EA has always touted their Madden franchise as realistic and their motto was "IF IT'S IN THE GAME, IT'S IN THE GAME!" Well all this fake stuff just doesn't cut it for me. I don't want to play a game where the commentator refers to players who aren't even in the league and never existed. It detracts from the overall experience. I'm not alone here.
If EA wants to put this fake stuff in there for the casual audience, fine. But at least leave the option for the rest of us to keep things a bit more realistic. Or at the very least, allow us to edit the players ourselves if we want and the only reason they took that option out of the game is so that they could add in this superficial connected careers mode that allowed commentators to talk about players.
Seriously, there was nothing more enjoyable in past Maddens for me (and many others) then to import draft classes from NCAA and have these real rookies enter the NFL. At the end of my first season in Madden 12, Andrew Luck went #1 overall. Matt Kalil went #2 overall. Quinton Coples went #3 overall. It was awesome.
This year, I'd want to play a Madden franchise where Matt Barkley goes #1 overall. Maybe Barkavious Mingo goes #2 overall. Then maybe Mantei Teo goes #3.
Nope. Instead I get a white WR named Treon Martin going #1 overall. A TE who is the son of a former fake NFL legend going #2 overall. And a HB named Xavier Waters (who fake USC coach Devin Gilberry says is the best player he's ever seen) going #3 overall.
No thank you. I'll stick with Madden 12 for another year I guess.
In the video, Miami drafted TE - Marion Marks #2 overall and Trey Wingo said "Do any of you remember former NFL player Azriel Marks? If not you should. Marion Marks is his son." There never was a player named Azriel Marks in the NFL.
A few picks later, an OG named Kendrick Rose is drafted and Wingo says "Kendrick is the cousin of current NFL safety Keyon Rose." Well if you're playing a franchise, you'd be playing it with the real NFL players in the game. It's ridiculous to have the commentator refer to a made up player who's not even in the game as a "current NFL safety." The other issue with this is that the photo used for Kendrick Rose is of a white player. Not to be prejudiced or anything but wouldn't Kendrick and Keyon be most likely names of black players and not white?
On that same note, the #1 overall pick was Treon Martin - WR. (also shown as a white dude.) Names aside, how realistic is it that a white WR would be the #1 overall pick? Just saying....
Now a lot of you may think these are stupid complaints and that it shouldn't detract from the overall game at all. But the point is that EA has always touted their Madden franchise as realistic and their motto was "IF IT'S IN THE GAME, IT'S IN THE GAME!" Well all this fake stuff just doesn't cut it for me. I don't want to play a game where the commentator refers to players who aren't even in the league and never existed. It detracts from the overall experience. I'm not alone here.
If EA wants to put this fake stuff in there for the casual audience, fine. But at least leave the option for the rest of us to keep things a bit more realistic. Or at the very least, allow us to edit the players ourselves if we want and the only reason they took that option out of the game is so that they could add in this superficial connected careers mode that allowed commentators to talk about players.
Seriously, there was nothing more enjoyable in past Maddens for me (and many others) then to import draft classes from NCAA and have these real rookies enter the NFL. At the end of my first season in Madden 12, Andrew Luck went #1 overall. Matt Kalil went #2 overall. Quinton Coples went #3 overall. It was awesome.
This year, I'd want to play a Madden franchise where Matt Barkley goes #1 overall. Maybe Barkavious Mingo goes #2 overall. Then maybe Mantei Teo goes #3.
Nope. Instead I get a white WR named Treon Martin going #1 overall. A TE who is the son of a former fake NFL legend going #2 overall. And a HB named Xavier Waters (who fake USC coach Devin Gilberry says is the best player he's ever seen) going #3 overall.
No thank you. I'll stick with Madden 12 for another year I guess.
# 111
DaBlackGoku @ 08/19/12 01:52 PM
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# 112
DaBlackGoku @ 08/19/12 01:56 PM
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This kinda reminds me of last yr..when everybody was soo pumped for cut days, generated "nobodies" thats tryin to make your team, expanded rosters etc....then game comes out and after bout yr 2 of your franchise...you see how everything is truly screwed up..and all the people who were praising and defended EA for those additions just based off videos n here say...where the first ones coming for their heads and crying about a patch lolll
Im fairly optimistic that everything is polished this year..especially with the omission of editing...but plz dont get mad at ppl who are not impressed or criticizing...EA has set up us for the "okie doke" time and time again...some has just refused to be fooled this time around...
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Im fairly optimistic that everything is polished this year..especially with the omission of editing...but plz dont get mad at ppl who are not impressed or criticizing...EA has set up us for the "okie doke" time and time again...some has just refused to be fooled this time around...
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# 114
Chrisksaint @ 08/19/12 01:57 PM
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No good teams at least in the NFL are going to shy away from a player because you're supposedly not supposed to draft that position that high
I don't doubt that the Draft A.I. needs work, it always needs work in every sports game every year. If that team has a need for a superstar player at that position then it doesn't bother me if the CPU picks that player.
I know that most people want the game to mimic NFL conventional wisdom/dogma that says that position X can't be drafted here, so they must trade down get some more picks, and pay that player less money.
I don't mind if the game eschews that line of thinking and has other players besides QB's, DE's, and LT's go number one.
Even though the CPU teams don't actually "know" it, it's probably better for them to just take the player who they really, really want no matter what their pick is. Since the other CPU teams aren't going to be following the traditional NFL blueprint, any player may be taken at any time. I bet Users are going to be losing out on players they really want over and over again because they will keep expecting the CPU to behave like NFL zombies.
I know that most people want the game to mimic NFL conventional wisdom/dogma that says that position X can't be drafted here, so they must trade down get some more picks, and pay that player less money.
I don't mind if the game eschews that line of thinking and has other players besides QB's, DE's, and LT's go number one.
Even though the CPU teams don't actually "know" it, it's probably better for them to just take the player who they really, really want no matter what their pick is. Since the other CPU teams aren't going to be following the traditional NFL blueprint, any player may be taken at any time. I bet Users are going to be losing out on players they really want over and over again because they will keep expecting the CPU to behave like NFL zombies.
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And as somebody already said, the Dolphins don't need a LT or QB. You know what they do need? Weapons for Tannehill. Looks to me like they added one in that draft...
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