The FOFC Television Family Draft - Voting Thread

[Dr. Sak]

Below are everyone's picks in the order they took them. Voting is simple, just reply in the thread and vote for your top three. Voters can use this thread to make one last attempt as to why their family is the best.

Good luck!

Karlifornia
1.01 Mom - Lucy Ricardo, I Love Lucy
2.12 Best Friend of Lead Character - Paul Pfeiffer, The Wonder Years
3.01 Housekeeper, Butler or Nanny - Rosie, The Jestons
4.12 Brother - Arnold Jackson, Diff'rent Strokes
5.01 Dad - Danny Tanner, Full House
6.12 Bad Guy or Girl - Eric Cartman, South Park
7.01 Location of Family - The Dream World of Bob Newhart
8.12 Sister - Wednesday Addams, The Addams Family
9.01 Wildcard - Corky, Life Goes On
10.1 Pet - 2 Salem, Sabrina The Teenage Witch

Danny
1.02 Bad Guy or Girl - Stewie Griffin, Family Guy
2.11 Best Friend of Lead Character - Barney Fife, Andy Griffith Show
3.02 Mom - Samantha Stevens, Bewitched
4.11 Wildcard - Cosmo Kramer, Seinfeld
5.02 Pet - Mr. Ed, Mr. Ed
6.11 Location of Family - Springfield, the Simpsons
7.02 Housekeeper, Butler or Nanny - Charles, Charles In Charge
8.11 Sister - Samantha Micelli, Who's the Boss?
9.02 Dad - Jed Clampett, Beverly Hillbillies
10.11 Brother - Cory Matthews, Boy Meets World

Cartman
1.03 Dad - Archie Bunker, All in the Family
2.10 Location of Family - Gilligan's Island, Gilligan's Island
3.03 Pet - Arnold Ziffel, Green Acres
4.10 Brother - Malcolm, Malcolm in the Middle
5.03 Bad Guy or Girl - Newman, Seinfeld
6.10 Wildcard - Wilson, Home Improvement
7.03 Housekeeper, Butler or Nanny - Daphne Moon, Fraiser
8.10 Best Friend of Lead Character - Eric Murphy AKA "E", Entourage
9.03 Mom - The car from My Mother the Car
10.10 Sister - 0 Buffy Wilson, Bosom Buddies

DeToxRoX
1.04 Best Friend of Lead Character - Arthur "The Fonz" Fonzereli, Happy Days
2.09 Dad - Al Bundy, Married With Children
3.04 Location of Family - Cheers Bar, Cheers
4.09 Brother - Kevin Arnold, The Wonder Years
5.04 Bad Guy or Girl - Wile E. Coyote, Merrie Melodies
6.09 Mom - Marie Barone, Everybody Loves Raymond
7.04 Wildcard - Latka Graves, Taxi
8.09 Housekeeper, Butler or Nanny - - Lowell Mathers,Wings
9.04 Sister - Michelle Tanner, Full House
10.09 Pet - 9 - Santas Little Helper, Simpsons

larrymcg421
1.05 Dad - Cliff Huxtable, The Cosby Show
2.08 Location of Family - Mayberry, Andy Griffith Show
3.05 Housekeeper, Butler or Nanny - Alice Nelson, Brady Bunch
4.08 Mom - Elyse Keaton, Family Ties
5.05 Brother - Theodore "Beaver" Cleaver, Leave it to Beaver
6.08 Sister - Ellie Mae, Beverly Hillbillies
7.05 Wildcard - Mr. Wilson, Dennis the Menace
8.08 Bad Guy or Girl - Gob Bluth, Arrested Development
9.05 Pet - Murray, Mad About You
10.08 Best Friend of Lead Character - 8 Ethel Mertz, I Love Lucy

Raiders Army
1.06 Brother - Alex P. Keaton, Family Ties
2.07 Dad - Howard Cunningham, Happy Days
3.06 Housekeeper, Butler or Nanny - Edna Garrett, Different Strokes
4.07 Best Friend of Lead Character - Barney Stinson, How I Met Your Mother
5.06 Wildcard - Gordon "ALF" Schumway, ALF
6.07 Bad Guy or Girl - Joy Turner, My Name is Earl
7.06 Mom - Angela Bower, Who's the Boss?
8.07 Sister - Miley Stewart, Hannah Montana
9.06 Pet - Scooby Doo
10.07 Location of Family - 7 POW Camp, Hogan's Heroes

Maple Leafs
1.07 Dad - Homer Simpson, The Simpsons
2.06 Mom - Edith Bunker, All In The Family
3.07 Housekeeper, Butler or Nanny - Tony Micelli, Who's The Boss
4.06 Brother - Mike Seaver, Growing Pains
5.07 Wildcard - Balki Bartokomous, Perfect Strangers
6.06 Best Friend of Lead Character - Larry Dallas, Three's Company
7.07 Pet - Buck Bundy, Married... With Children
8.06 Location of Family - South Park
9.07 Sister - Mallory Keaton, Family Ties
10.06 Bad Guy or Girl - 6 Maj. Frank Burns, MASH

Lathum
1.08 Best Friend of Lead Character - George Costanza, Seinfeld
2.05 Dad - Mike Brady, The Brady Bunch
3.08 Brother - Bart Simpson, The Simpsons
4.05 Bad Guy or Girl - Eddie Haskell, Leave it to Beaver
5.08 Housekeeper, Butler or Nanny - Fran Fine, The Nanny
6.05 Wildcard - Sam Malone, Cheers
7.08 Mom - Claire Huxtable, Cosby Show
8.05 Location of Family - Cincinatti, WKRP in Cincinatti
9.08 Pet - Marcell the Monkey, Friends
10.05 Sister - 5 Vicki the robot, Small Wonder

RendeR
1.09 Dad - Dick Solomon, 3rd Rock From The Sun
2.04 Sister - Kelly Bundy, Married With Children
3.09 Location of Family - Wisconsin
4.04 Wildcard - Mork from Ork, Mork and Mindy
5.09 Bad Guy or Girl - Dan Fielding, Night Court
6.04 Brother - Alan Harper, 2 1/2 Men
7.09 Mom - Shirley Partridge, Partridge Family
8.04 Best Friend of Lead Character - Barney Rubble, Flintstones
9.09 Pet - Snoopy, Charlie Brown and Friends
10.04 Housekeeper, Butler or Nanny - 4 Florince Johnson, The Jeffersons

Tasan
1.10 Housekeeper, Butler or Nanny - Mr. Belvedere, Mr. Belvedere
2.03 Bad Guy or Girl - Montgomery Burns, The Simpsons
3.10 Mom - Roseanne Conner, Roseanne
4.03 Best Friend of Lead Character - Al Borland, Home Improvement
5.10 Wildcard - Steve Urkel, Family Matters
6.03 Pet - Dino, Flintsones
7.10 Brother - Richard "Richie" Cunningham, Happy Days
8.03 Dad - Red Forman, That 70's Show
9.10 Location of Family - The Street in San Francisco that Full House was on
10.03 Sister - 3 Rudy Huxtable, The Cosby Show

wademoore
1.11 Pet - Lassie, Lassie
2.02 Brother - Theo Huxtable, The Cosby Show
3.11 Sister - Marsha Brady, The Brady Bunch
4.02 Housekeeper, Butler or Nanny - Geoffrey, The Fresh Prince of Bel Air
5.11 Dad - Fred G. Sanford, Sanford and Son
6.02 Mom - Esther Rolle, Good Times
7.11 Best Friend of Lead Character - Fred "Rerun" Stubbs, What's Happening Now!!
8.02 Bad Guy or Girl - Deacon Ernest Frye, Amen
9.11 Location of Family - Wasington, D.C., 227
10.02 Wildcard - 2 Mr. Cooper, Hangin' With Mr. Cooper

Mustang
1.12 Mom - June Cleaver, Leave it to Beaver
2.01 Bad Guy or Girl - Louis DePalma, Taxi
3.12 Best Friend of Lead Character - Ed Norton, The Honeymooners
4.01 Housekeeper, Butler or Nanny - Benson, Soap
5.12 Wildcard - Basil Fawlty, Fawlty Towers
6.01 Pet - Eddie, Frasier
7.12 Sister - Monica Geller, Friends
8.01 Dad - Bernie McCullough, Bernie Mac Show
9.12 Brother - - James 'J.J.' Evans, Jr., Good Times
10.01 Location of Family - 1 1313 Mockingbird Lane, Munsters

[larrymcg421]

Murray is from Mad About You.

[Flasch186]

honestly too hard to vote I'd think.

[MJ4H]

1. larrymc
2. Maple Leafs
3. wade moore

[wade moore]

SANFORD AND BUNCH




CAST:

Mom - Florida Sanford
Dad - Fred Sanford
Brother - Theo Sanford
Sister - Marsha Sanford
Best Friend - Fred "Rerun" Stubbs
Pet - Lassie
Bad Guy - Deacon Frye
Wildcard (Teacher/Coach) [not pictured] - Mr. Cooper
Butler - Geoffrey

Synopsis:

Fred Sanford sells the family's junkyard to developers looking to "renovate" an area of DC. He makes a killing, but decides to stay in apartment 227 where they have always lived. He does however upgrade his lifestyle, quits working (doctors tell him he has to because of his heart), and hires a butler. Shortly after the sale of the junkyard a close friend of Theo's, Marsha Brady, comes into school with a horrible broken nose. After allegations of abuse run rampant Marsha is invited to come live with the Sanfords (along with her dog Lassie for comfort) and is eventually adopted. The show initially revolves around Fred, but as the show progresses it shifts to Theo and his best friend Rerun. Theo and Rerun are on their local High School's basketball team coached by Mr. Cooper. Mr. Cooper's team is terrible, but he teaches them as much as he can - on the court and in the classroom. Another ongoing theme is the local church Deacon, Deacon Frye, is constantly hitting up Fred for large donations after the sale of the junkyard.

This cast provides fantastic comedy relief, but also tackles serious subjects like abuse, death, obesity, dyslexia, and many other serious life issues. It does it all with a hint of humor that is a hit with all audiences.

[cartman]

To me, the blurb about a pick can mean as much as the pick itself, since it helps put some context around the picks, here are the ones for my picks:

Originally Posted by cartman

1.3 Archie Bunker - Dad

Perhaps the greatest character ever created for TV. He was much more than the gruff malcontent that so often came through. Most people have some part of the character that they can either strongly identify with or know someone just like him.

Originally Posted by cartman

2.10 - Gilligan's Island - Location

The selection of Mayberry might have forced my hand a bit. I was hoping this would slide a couple more rounds, but probably not now that location has been brought up and people are thinking about it.

Is there a better locale for a sitcom than a tropical island? I think not. Everyone else can have their urban scene, suburbia, or idyllic countryside. My family is living large on the shores of Gilligan's Island. Just watch out for the occasional headhunters.

Originally Posted by cartman

3.3 Arnold Ziffel - Pet

I almost went with 'son' as the category here, because Fred and Doris Ziffel treated him as their son. But name me a smarter. more kickass pet in all of sitcom history. Go ahead. You can't. That's why Arnold gets my pick for the pet category. Everyone else can have their dog, cat, bird or fish. For a sitcom, you can't get wackier than a pig.

Originally Posted by cartman

4.10 - Malcom (in the Middle) - Brother

One of the only sitcoms I can think of with the focus on the brother. Also, I don't think they ever said the family's last name on the show, that's why I left it out.

Originally Posted by cartman

5.3 Newman from Seinfeld - Bad Guy

"Hello, Jerry."
No more chilling words have ever been spoken during a sitcom. Another character with an unknown last name, Newman is a postal worker who is always on the edge of breakdown, and is a cunning mastermind. The others on my family team will do well to keep a close eye on him.

Originally Posted by cartman

6.10 - Wilson from Home Improvement - Wildcard

Going with a wildcard in the truest sense of the word. You only knew one of his names, never saw his face, but he was always ready to give some well needed advice.

Originally Posted by cartman

Ok, I've regrouped, and am ready to make the pick.

7.3 Daphne Moon, Frasier - Housekeeper/Butler/Nanny

She filled all of the above mentioned roles during her time on the show. And a stone cold hotty to boot.

Originally Posted by cartman

8.10 Eric Murphy aka "E", Entourage - Best Friend of Lead Character

Fits the category description to a T. Has been Vince's best friend since they were kids, and is the only one that continually puts put with the crap when Vince goes into star prima donna mode, and often times is the only one that can reel Vince back in.

Originally Posted by cartman

Ok, thinking outside the box on this one. A lot of sitcoms have a wacky theme, and my next pick most definitely fits the bill. With Archie Bunker as the dad, having a mom that can handle and deal with him is a tall order. So that led me to my pick:

9.3 The car, from My Mother the Car - Mom

Only a car possessed by the ghost of Jerry Van Dyke's character's mom that only communicates through the car's radio can take the spot of Edith Bunker.

Originally Posted by cartman

For my final pick, I go into the category of 'sister'. This is another definite outside the box pick, but in the realm of sitcoms it makes perfect sense. My pick is:

10.10 Buffy Wilson, Bosom Buddies - Sister



This character is the 'sister' to Tom Hanks' Kip Wilson, when he needs to keep his female identity in place, and not get kicked out of the all-women's hotel where he is staying. This construct was a key reason the plot was able to work. Plus, it gets Tom Hanks on my team.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by wade moore

SANFORD AND BUNCH

Man that is an outstanding photoshop. Very nice job.

[PurdueBrad]

I enjoyed watching this one. I'm going:

1- LarryMcG
2- WadeMoore
3- DeToxRox

Nice job guys...

[3ric]

1. DeToxRoX
2. Tasan
3. RendeR

[Radii]

1. Maple Leafs
2. Larrymcg
3. Lathum

Edit to expound(I didn't change my vote):

The winners in my eyes ended up being the ones that didn't have too many bad picks. Maple Leafs didn't have the best pick most times IMO but none of his picks dragged him down any. Raiders Army did great until he went all Disney on us. I had Wade in the lead after 7 rounds but really didn't like his last few picks, espicially the Deacon from Amen and Mr Cooper as a Wildcard. To me the wildcard character was a chance to take an iconic sitcom character who didn't really fit anywhere else in a family. Kramer and Sam Malone got huge points from me there as a result. Others will interpret that category differently I am sure.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

1. larrymcg
2. Maple Leafs
3. wade moore

[wade moore]

I expect the voting to shift quite a bit depending on if you go with:

A) Which list has the best characters in those categories
B) Which list makes the best Sitcom Family

I shot for B here, curious to see how the voters look at it.

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by wade moore

I expect the voting to shift quite a bit depending on if you go with:

A) Which list has the best characters in those categories
B) Which list makes the best Sitcom Family

I shot for B here, curious to see how the voters look at it.

I'm with Wade on this one.

And since Lassie wasn't a sitcom, we all agree he's disqualified, right?

[Maple Leafs]

I won't bother with a long-winded lobbying campaign.

Look, folks.... I have Balki. I mean, I really don't know what else you need. Balki is going to be hanging around with Homer Simpson and Tony Macelli, and occasionally Larry Dallas will come over to talk about girls with Mike Seaver. Also, the dog can talk.

If you wouldn't watch that show, then you are secretly a woman. You just are. If you don't vote for me, you should sit down the next time you pee.

[JAG]

1. Tasan
2. Danny
3. Maple Leafs

[Tyrith]

1. larrymcg
2. cartman
3. wade moore

[Rich1033]

1. Danny
2. Maple Leafs
3. Tasan

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

I'm with Wade on this one.

And since Lassie wasn't a sitcom, we all agree he's disqualified, right?

[Lathum]

I'm not gonna do a ton of campaigning but I have in my stable Sam Malone, George Costanza, Bart Simpson and Mike Brady.

[DeToxRox]

Fonzie, Latka, Kevin Arnold, Al Bundy and the CHeers Bar.

The hyjinx that'd ensue!

[MrDNA]

I have my top three, but I need to put them in order still. Tough, tough, tough. Some real good drafting here.

[Tasan]

Hi folks. Not a lot to say other than I feel I have a very strong team. Roseanne and Red bouncing off each other, but really being able to work well together, then Richie and Rudy both in those classic "kid to teenager" hijinks, reeled in my Mr. Belvedere when they go too far. Al coming over and driving Red crazy but being a real good friend Red never had. Then, can you imagine Urkel coming through the door, Richie and Rudy being happy to see him but Roseanne and Red going out of their mind because of him. Finally, Dino being the loyal pet Red never had in the weiner dog in that 70s show, helps him foil his boss's, Burns, evil plans. All this revolving around this all too familiar neighborhood


Doesn't get much better than that, does it?

[MrDNA]

1. Maple Leafs
2. Danny
3. Larry

To me, the most important spot was the wildcard. Maple and Danny had GREAT wildcards, but who would Larry's Mr. Wilson have to yell at? Beaver is too much of a goody-goody to create any kind of interesting dynamic there, so that's why Larry is third. Maple gets the nod at number 1 because of the Homer/Edith dynamic - she's a perfect enabler for him. Also, with Balki coming over to call the whole family ridiculous? Too nice. I don't think this small Colorado town can handle them.

[Bad-example]

Every list has a loser pick that leaves me unwilling to vote for it.

1. Fail
2. Fail
3. Fail

[MikeVic]

I'll say:


1. Danny
2. DeTox
3. Lathum


Honorable mention to Maple Leafs, and a special shout out to Raiders Army... I think he has the most characters from "newer" shows.

I think I'd have the most fun watching Danny's show. Stewie is one of my favourite characters ever. Kramer and Mr. Ed would be great, and Cory and Samantha are awesome too. Really solid.

[MikeVic]

Originally Posted by wade moore

B) Which list makes the best Sitcom Family

I shot for B here, curious to see how the voters look at it.

I think a problem with me for this draft was that I don't think I've seen half the shows people picked from. And the ones I've seen recently for the first time because of Peachtree TV (Sanford & Son, Diff'rent Strokes) weren't very good, so I don't care for their characters at all.

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by Bad-example

Every list has a loser pick that leaves me unwilling to vote for it.

1. Fail
2. Fail
3. Fail

Thank you for taking a stand in life.

[Raiders Army]

I'll make it short: Vote for me.

Originally Posted by Bad-example

Every list has a loser pick that leaves me unwilling to vote for it.

1. Fail
2. Fail
3. Fail

Who was my loser pick(s)?

[jeheinz72]

1. DeToxRox
2. cartman
3. Larrymcg

[rockboy70]

1. Larry
2. Maple Leafs
3. Lathum

[digamma]

1. Larry
2. Maple Leafs
3. DeToxRox

[AENeuman]

1. Maple Leafs, by far the best, good job
2. Larry most for last pick, Ethel. Nearly every best friend in sitcoms is based on her
3. DeToxRox

Fun to watch. I think there should be more time between the creation of the draft and the start (historical person draft needed this too). Could of cleared up sitcom/drama/cartoon prob, making it mom/wife (or not). In other words, finding the categories that will have the richest well to draw upon.

[ISiddiqui]

What, no Colonel Tigh for Best Friend of a Main Character?! Shame.

Anyway:

1. Maple Leafs
2. Danny
3. larrymcg421

[RendeR]

All I'm going to say is that I tried to create the best all around sit-com family based on individual talent.

Every single one of my picks either DID get their own show or could very well carry their own shows if given the opportunity.

Of all my Live person picks I think Jon Cryer is the only one that did not get /have his own sitcom already and he may well get a spinoff from 2.5 men.

[RendeR]

Dr Sak: Are we allowed to critique everyone's list also? or should that be saved for after the voting?

[Izulde]

1. Tasan
2. Karlifornia
3. DeToxRox

I think Karl's list should be getting more love. Some great all-around picks there that I think are being overlooked.

No question about it, though, Tasan's got the deepest, best draft out of the bunch.

[Crim]

Definitely no runaway favorite for me, five drafters were bunched at the top. I fooled around with different ways of scoring, and kept getting different winners.

I settled on a point for solid pick, two additional points for winning a category. Then I nudged people up or down based on the overall theme of their draft. This got wade in for example. Crim's Official Definitive Selections of the Top Three are:

1. Danny
2. RendeR
3. wademoore

Honorable mention: larrymcg for several solid picks, and Karlifornia for winning two categories.


Incidentally, when I said there was no runaway winner for me, here's evidence. Nobody won more than two categories. All participants except for one made at least one "solid" pick, by my scoring system.

Congratulations, Danny, for winning the contest! Because I said so.

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Dr Sak: Are we allowed to critique everyone's list also? or should that be saved for after the voting?

I dont see any problem with it. You are talking about other people's drafts not votes right?

[BrianD]

1. Maple Leafs
2. wademoore
3. Danny

I am voting based on overall sitcom cohesiveness. The main pairings I looked at were brother and sister, brother and best friend, mother and father, and the other spots filling in interesting characters.

Maple Leafs: The Homer Simpson/Edith Bunker combination sounds like fun. I'm not sure how a cartoon and a human make a marriage work, but they would play off of each other well. Mike Sever and Mallory Keaton would make for an interesting family combo and both of them could be the exact same as their original character. The addition of Larry to Mike would surely add hijinks. Add in Balki and Buck and you've got a winner.

wademoore: This cast is arguably good enough to take over the top spot. Fred and Esther make an excellent pair. Theo and Rerun would be loads of fun, and adding Marsha is brilliant.

Danny: A third place entry that has lots of potential but a few missed spots. Jed and Samantha...fun and could probably be done decently well, but not a homerun. Corey and Samantha (the younger) could be loads of fun, and adding Charles to Samantha gives us all kinds of sexual tension (if you allow Samantha to be old enough to have the tension not be creepy). Adding Kramer to the mix with Mr. Ed gives just enough craziness to pull this pack to number 3.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

I dont see any problem with it. You are talking about other people's drafts not votes right?

Yeah their drafts , the voters will vote whatever way they choose thats up to them.

[rowech]

Tough call but I think my voting goes like this:

1. Larrymcg -- His top five picks are outstanding. He has a defining choice at all five of his spots and lands another with his final picks.

2. Maple Leafs -- He doesn't have a bad pick in the bunch but I think he falls short of Larrymcg.

3. Tasan -- came down to him and Lathum for 3rd place and I just matched them up 1 by 1. I had him come out in front 5.5 to 4.5.

[Coffee Warlord]

1. DeTox
2. Larry
3. Wade

I went for overall strength here. 1 or 2 top flights and the rest (in my view) mediocres were excluded. These 3 I think assembled the strongest cast.

[gstelmack]

Danny
larrymcg
Maple Leafs

I took points off for shows that weren't really family shows. Really Danny and larrymcg were very close in my mind, but Stewie Griffin FTW!

[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by Izulde

1. Tasan
2. Karlifornia
3. DeToxRox

I think Karl's list should be getting more love. Some great all-around picks there that I think are being overlooked.

No question about it, though, Tasan's got the deepest, best draft out of the bunch.

Thanks, Izulde!

[Tasan]

Ditto on the thanks for the strong votes so far, especially those who saw fit to put me #1. Of course I think I've got the #1 team, but I'm a bit biased.

[RendeR]

Gah, I realized one huge miss everyone made...


bad Girl: Mimi Bobeck, Drew carey Show....

talk about not drafting the best possible pick....we all blew it.

[Jas_lov]

1. Danny- Kramer and Mr. Ed, enough said.
2. Lathum- George Costanza and Bart Simpson, don't care about the rest.
3. DeToxRoX- Al Bundy alone makes for a great draft,

[Bad-example]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I'll make it short: Vote for me.


Who was my loser pick(s)?

You had 3 loser picks

3.06 Housekeeper, Butler or Nanny - Edna Garrett, Different Strokes
4.07 Best Friend of Lead Character - Barney Stinson, How I Met Your Mother
8.07 Sister - Miley Stewart, Hannah Montana

[Radii]

Edna Garrett is from the Facts of Life, if it matters. I thought that was a solid pick. I'm partial to Barney Stinson, I thought that was a great pick(but I know some wouldn't).

Miley... yeah.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Radii

Edna Garrett is from the Facts of Life, if it matters. I thought that was a solid pick. I'm partial to Barney Stinson, I thought that was a great pick(but I know some wouldn't).

Miley... yeah.

She was originally on different stokes and facts life a spin off from that.

Thank to those who have voted for me .