Survivor:Challenge/Common Thread (GAME OVER! FEED BACK WELCOME)

[Poli]

That's what I'm talking about, ITC. :)

[Barkeep49]

Lupus 5
Oz 3
Howard 2
Helsing 2

[ImTheCrew]

nothing cooler than a online forum high five!!

[ImTheCrew]

what 2nd!???

[ImTheCrew]

opps is that total?

[Poli]

True.

[ImTheCrew]

has to be i appoligize

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Question: Do we have to vote every time? Since we aren't getting any points out of this round, do we still need to vote? Will we be penalized for not voting?

[Tyrith]

Is the second post in the thread ever going to be edited to show the current tribes, or is it going to remain static throughout the game?

[Barkeep49]

Question: Do we have to vote every time? Since we aren't getting any points out of this round, do we still need to vote? Will we be penalized for not voting?
Only requirement is that each player must vote at least once. Now if someone other than you Jonathan were to come around before the next block and vote it would count to the individual vote standings, but have no impact on the overall scoreboard.

[Barkeep49]

Is the second post in the thread ever going to be edited to show the current tribes, or is it going to remain static throughout the game?
Thanks for the reminder.

[Lathum]

so any speculation why there was no wolf kill last night?

[st.cronin]

I gave you a direct reason why I felt this was the case. I guess that wasn't good enough :(

No, not really.

[Alan T]

No, not really.


No not really that my thoughts wern't good enough for you, or no not really that you didn't see the post I made?

[st.cronin]

No not really that my thoughts wern't good enough for you, or no not really that you didn't see the post I made?

If yours was the post referencing Barkeep's comments about "evil" I don't find that persuasive. That's what I meant.

[Alan T]

If yours was the post referencing Barkeep's comments about "evil" I don't find that persuasive. That's what I meant.

in my mind it seems to be alot more evidence than anything you are tossing out though.

[ImTheCrew]

isnt that too obvious????

[KWhit]

so any speculation why there was no wolf kill last night?

Not sure. Maybe there are no wolves yet?

Maybe BK's volunteer comment that "they are a little bit more evil" means that they are on the way toward becoming wolves but aren't there yet?

Just guessing.

[Lathum]

If yours was the post referencing Barkeep's comments about "evil" I don't find that persuasive. That's what I meant.

any theroies you have would be welcome

[Alan T]

isnt that too obvious????


Not sure how its too obvious since we don't know who volunteered.

[ntndeacon]

Vote AlanT

[Abe Sargent]

Not sure. Maybe there are no wolves yet?

Maybe BK's volunteer comment that "they are a little bit more evil" means that they are on the way toward becoming wolves but aren't there yet?

Just guessing.

So you are stressing the "little bit" part, not the evil comment?

[st.cronin]

in my mind it seems to be alot more evidence than anything you are tossing out though.

I'm not tossing ANYTHING out. I have been somewhat persuaded that this is a possibility. I just ... need a little bit more.

[ntndeacon]

at least we can give someone else a vote :)

[Abe Sargent]

Vote AlanT

A pile-on vote?

[Lathum]

isnt that too obvious????

sometimes it is best to not overthink things. The thing that led me to believe they are wolves were the comment about to many people volunteering and how those who did volunteer need to keep it to themselves. Seemed obvious to me.

[st.cronin]

Not sure how its too obvious since we don't know who volunteered.

Some tribes may know. Also, some tribes may not have ANYBODY who volunteered.

Both of those possibilities are what make that theory a little too unlikely in my opinion.

[ntndeacon]

A pile-on vote?

more a vote to keep a pile on to happening to one of our guys.

[Lathum]

Oh and also before everyone leaves, I need at least one person from each tribe to send me a PM to be a "volunteer". You may not post anywhere that you have volunteered. If a tribe fails to have anyone volunteer there will be consequences. Of course too many people volunteering for this unknown thing could be bad too. So just how adventurous do you feel?


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[Abe Sargent]

more a vote to keep a pile on to happening to one of our guys.

Well, you know, at first I found this suspicious, because why vote for a guy who isn't here, because you can't do the whole Counterspell thing with it (see: Magic the gathering), but, since you have to vote for someone, I guess this makes sense the more I think about it.

[KWhit]

So you are stressing the "little bit" part, not the evil comment?

Yes. That's my (lame) theory at this point.

[Lathum]

Some tribes may know. Also, some tribes may not have ANYBODY who volunteered.

Both of those possibilities are what make that theory a little too unlikely in my opinion.

read the rules, If a tribe knows who volunteered that is a direct violation of the rules.

[ntndeacon]

Some tribes may know. Also, some tribes may not have ANYBODY who volunteered.

Both of those possibilities are what make that theory a little too unlikely in my opinion.


true. But it sounds like those tribes will be punished in other ways as well.

[Lathum]

read the post I quoted above from Barkeep, it seems to me there are alot of clues in there.

[KWhit]

I want to thank those of you who volunteered. Of course those who were chosen now are a little more evil than before, but let's not let that bother us.


That's the post I was talking about. "A little more evil" seems carefully chosen to me. I don't know what it means, but...

[Tyrith]

Makes sense to just get the vote out there, even if I don't like it too much because it's against one of my guys. But I can't really blame you for it.

[Blade6119]

read the rules, If a tribe knows who volunteered that is a direct violation of the rules.
But for the smaller teams of 4 now, we have a general idea. Especially if you know you didnt get whatever the volunteers got. From there, i can make assumptions about which of the 3 others would be likely to volunteer and make my own guesses as to what that means

[ImTheCrew]

the line " too many people could be BAD too" bad as in consequences or in evil?????

[st.cronin]

read the rules, If a tribe knows who volunteered that is a direct violation of the rules.

If somebody POSTS that they have volunteered that is a violation of the rules. There are many ways a tribe could know who volunteered without that person posting.

[st.cronin]

That's the post I was talking about. "A little more evil" seems carefully chosen to me. I don't know what it means, but...


I agree. I think if volunteers = wolves, Barkeep would have said nothing, for the reasons I outlined.

[Tyrith]

If somebody POSTS that they have volunteered that is a violation of the rules. There are many ways a tribe could know who volunteered without that person posting.

I haven't encountered any in this game. I can't really think of anything that would show if someone had VOLUNTEERED or not -- a seer wouldn't tell you if someone had volunteered or not, it would just tell you if someone is bad, which is related but a distinct issue.

[Lathum]

But for the smaller teams of 4 now, we have a general idea. Especially if you know you didnt get whatever the volunteers got. From there, i can make assumptions about which of the 3 others would be likely to volunteer and make my own guesses as to what that means

I take this post as nothing but you trying to garnish information from someone.

[Blade6119]

I take this post as nothing but you trying to garnish information from someone.

its actually just the opposite...why would i come into the general thread to try and work over team members? if i wanted to do that id do it in our tribal thread. I take your post as nothing but you trying to be mean

[Tyrith]

I take this post as nothing but you trying to garnish information from someone.

Let's not lie to ourselves. This is still Werewolf. Most of the posts in this thread are going to be trying to probe for unknown information right now, because I'm pretty certain none of us really know anything. I sure as heck don't. I'm not really going to get on blade for trying to learn something because I think we could all use more knowledge right now.

[st.cronin]

lol @ Lathum and Blade

do it lathum, kill blade! hahahahahaha

[st.cronin]

Let's not lie to ourselves. This is still Werewolf. Most of the posts in this thread are going to be trying to probe for unknown information right now, because I'm pretty certain none of us really know anything. I sure as heck don't. I'm not really going to get on blade for trying to learn something because I think we could all use more knowledge right now.

Yes, I agree. But I've been very straightforward with my questions and theories today (and last night). I'm not trying to figure out anybody's tribal strategy.

[KWhit]

I think it is still important to share information and wolf theories with each other in this thread. If we only talk overall game strategy in our individual tribal threads, we'll lose a lot. Theories build on themselves, and without talking some of this stuff through as a big group, the wolves will pick us apart.

[GoldenEagle]

<b>Vote AlanT</b>

[Blade6119]

VOTE ST.CRONIN

[Tyrith]

VOTE SWAGGS

[path12]

Vote Ardent

[Marathoner]

VOTE ARDENT

[GoldenEagle]

Vote Alan T

[Passacaglia]

oh snap

[Poli]

That's a lot of hate.

[Lathum]

yikes

[Blade6119]

Damn, i hoped to cancel one..oh well, still got first

[Tyrith]

rofl, so only blade and I get points, right?

[Swaggs]

Hmmmm....

Tags look right for GE, but no bold.

[Barkeep49]

Hmmmm....

Tags look right for GE, but no bold.
HTML appears to be turned off. His post was early, otherwise I'd not have penalized him for that.

[Tyrith]

Has to be brackets on this MB, Swaggs.

[Passacaglia]

Hmmmm....

Tags look right for GE, but no bold.

I think it needs to be brackets, not arrow thingies.

[Blade6119]

rofl, so only blade and I get points, right?

i was about to vote you too, i decided that at the last second..but i didnt have enough time to change my message...:(

[Barkeep49]

Tribal Scoreboard
Lupus 8
Oz 3
Howard 2
Helsing 4

Individual Vote
Schmidty – Kwhit(9:53)
Ardent – Jonathan(9:53)
Cronin – AlanT(9:53), Grammaticus(10:30), Blade(12)
Jonathan – Ardent(10:30)
Alan – Anxiety(10:30), ntn(10:30)
Swaggs – Tyrith(12)

[Blade6119]

I think it needs to be brackets, not arrow thingies.

I think its needs to be at the right time ;)

[GoldenEagle]

I am web developer, so I just do tags naturally without thinking about it. I think i was a second too early.

[Barkeep49]

I'm out for the next 3 slots. Will update around 6.

[Blade6119]

Barkeep, can i unvote cronin and use my votes later with no consequences? I mean, if i unvote now i wont lose those points, will i? I dont want to vote cronin

[Barkeep49]

I am web developer, so I just do tags naturally without thinking about it. I think i was a second too early.
You can post HTML in other places on the board so I wouldn't have held this against you. I'm going to ask SD to turn on HTML for us actually.

[st.cronin]

My guess is that whoever gets the most votes gets to hang out with Tom Brady for a day. So I'm pretty happy with this development.

[Barkeep49]

Barkeep, can i unvote cronin and use my votes later with no consequences? I mean, if i unvote now i wont lose those points, will i? I dont want to vote cronin
No unvoting allowed

[Poli]

Wait, GE's doesn't count at all, but NTN's does?

[st.cronin]

No unvoting allowed


HA! Deal with it, sucka.

[KWhit]

Outstanding! Good job, Blade!

[Blade6119]

No unvoting allowed

So is there no way for me vote in another bracket?

[Alan T]

Barkeep, I think your team totals are off some.

[st.cronin]

Barkeep are we allowed to vote for somebody in our tribe?

[Alan T]

Oh nevermind, I gave Lupus 4 points for winning. woops

[Blade6119]

Barkeep, I think your team totals are off some.

How are they off?

[Blade6119]

nm then

[Alan T]

How are they off?


Oh nevermind, I gave Lupus 4 points for winning. woops


See above :)

[Blade6119]

See above :)

I could say the same to you buddy :p

[Alan T]

I could say the same to you buddy :p

I blame the extra time on having to color the sentence :)

[ImTheCrew]

Wait, GE's doesn't count at all, but NTN's does?.

[Blade6119]

I blame the extra time on having to color the sentence :)

See, someone like me, a 12:00 champion of speed posting, wouldnt have that problem...but we cant all be so skilled, sorry :p

[Blade6119]

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ntns counted on an individual level, not team

[Alan T]

.

Barkeep is gone for a bit I think. But I am pretty sure I know why Ntn's counted. Ntn did not vote early, was not a second voter for his team and bolded/colored his vote.

Ntn's vote was for the 10:30 vote. So it went through and was counted. Howard got 0 points for it though since it was the 4th place vote.

Howard's 12:00 vote did not count though since they had two voters (Path & Marathoner) so that vote got DQ from both of them.

[Alan T]

See, someone like me, a 12:00 champion of speed posting, wouldnt have that problem...but we cant all be so skilled, sorry :p

It takes me longer to color a paragraph than to type the entire paragraph out! I guess I should learn the message board codes to do it, but I'm too lazy.

[Blade6119]

YAY, lupus is no longer the quietest tribal thread! take that OZ!

[GoldenEagle]

YAY, lupus is no longer the quietest tribal thread! take that OZ!

At least we can follow the rules. :)

[Blade6119]

At least we can follow the rules. :)

Rules are for the tribes in our wake, pshh :)

I know, i keep forgetting...

[Passacaglia]

Weird how in that last post, you colored everything but one letter.

[Blade6119]

Weird how in that last post, you colored everything but one letter.

lol, i suck at coloring...good thing thats not the challenge today..oh well, see you in about 45 min for the next round

[Passacaglia]

Hi Swaggs!

[GoldenEagle]

Vote AlanT

[Lathum]

VOTE KWHIT

[Jonathan Ezarik]

VOTE SWAGGS

[Swaggs]

Vote path12

[Swaggs]

Vote Lathum

[Passacaglia]

Boo-yah!!!!

[Swaggs]

Oh well... screwed up the color. :(

[GoldenEagle]

This was not a good challenge, the software is throwing it off. It is not consistent. I testing things five times before posting this.

[Swaggs]

I wonder if BK will accept either of my votes?

Guess we shall see.

[GoldenEagle]

I call timestamp bug!

[Tyrith]

It doesn't matter, JE blocked you out.

[Alan T]

This was not a good challenge, the software is throwing it off. It is not consistent. I testing things five times before posting this.

I'm not complaining. Right now its the only thing keeping you all from ganging up on me every turn :)

[Swaggs]

Disclosing that I accidentally just clicked on the Oz link. I closed it immediately and didn't see anything. Sorry.

[GoldenEagle]

Disclosing that I accidentally just clicked on the Oz link. I closed it immediately and didn't see anything. Sorry.

Swaggs secretly wants to be a member of Oz.

[Raiders Army]

I'm gonna have to particpate later. Work is too much.

[st.cronin]

gah, I'm having a hard time figuring out what time the various votes are supposed to be

[Jonathan Ezarik]

gah, I'm having a hard time figuring out what time the various votes are supposed to be

Go ahead and vote now, just to be safe. :)

[st.cronin]

Next one is at the top of the hour, right?

[Lathum]

gah, I'm having a hard time figuring out what time the various votes are supposed to be

the next one is in 51 minutes

[Alan T]

Go ahead and vote now, just to be safe. :)


lol :)

[Poli]

I have to admit, this challenge is 1. confusing and 2. confusing and 3. sucky. There's no way for me, at all, to color this post while I'm at work...or to format it at all.For example, I just skipped down two lines to post this, and I'm willing to bet it doesn't show that. Stupid work, stupid challenge. :)

[Poli]

At least the smilie worked.

[st.cronin]

I have to admit, this challenge is 1. confusing and 2. confusing and 3. sucky. There's no way for me, at all, to color this post while I'm at work...or to format it at all.For example, I just skipped down two lines to post this, and I'm willing to bet it doesn't show that. Stupid work, stupid challenge. :)

agree

I'm at the library during the day and sometimes posts take several minutes to get through the tubes. I don't know how I'm supposed to do this.

[Tyrith]

I have to agree with the chorus that says this challenge isn't too much fun. You can do formatting anywhere -- even when you hit the button it just gives you text codes -- but the speed thing is just dumb. It's also way too stressful.

[Lathum]

In defense of barkeep I'm sure it wasn't easy to come up with all these challanges. Unfortuanatly some will be less compelling then others.

[Lathum]

dola- and real to the show some challanges will favor certain people over others. Not all the challanges are equal on the show

[Passacaglia]

I think it seems fun.

[Alan T]

I think Oz is just being negative nancies and needs to get back to focusing on voting for me repeatedly :)

[st.cronin]

I don't mean to be negative. I just feel like this isn't really "werewolf." It's something else which I don't think I would have signed up for.

[Blade6119]

I don't mean to be negative. I just feel like this isn't really "werewolf." It's something else which I don't think I would have signed up for.

Oz wasnt complaining on day one when they were winning :rolleyes:

Its a little rude, but its true

[st.cronin]

dammit I just clicked on the Howard thread by accident

and Blade I DID complain on day 1 ... maybe not in this thread, but I did complain

[Blade6119]

dammit I just clicked on the Howard thread by accident

and Blade I DID complain on day 1 ... maybe not in this thread, but I did complain

Fair enough...i hope you manage to deal with the stress, as you have 5 teamates who can support you. I think the WW part is still coming into play, but you have to remember were only at day 2-3 in comparitve terms. Just like in those games, were just not reaching the juicy part

[Lathum]

dammit I just clicked on the Howard thread by accident

and Blade I DID complain on day 1 ... maybe not in this thread, but I did complain

muttering to yourself in your bathrobe doesn't count :)

[st.cronin]

muttering to yourself in your bathrobe doesn't count :)

It's a kimono.

[Lathum]

It's a kimono.

ahh, I was wondering why you had chopsticks in your hair

[st.cronin]

ahh, I was wondering why you had chopsticks in your hair

Those weren't chopsticks, I was just happy to see you.

[Blade6119]

this convo needs to change direction now...*shudders*

[st.cronin]

I had a very vivid dream last night that I was watching a new sci fi movie written and directed by George Lucas. It was called Tie Fighter. It was really bad.

[Lathum]

I actualy had a werewolf dream last night and I was voting St. Cronin. And no, I am not kidding

[Alan T]

I watched Saw III for the first time last night with the misses... She hates those type of movies, I figured she would just go to bed, but she stayed up like a trooper and suffered :)

[Abe Sargent]

Vote path12


Only becuase I saw you in thread


-Anxiety

[Passacaglia]

Vote Swaggs

[Marathoner]

VOTE SWAGGS

[st.cronin]

VOTE JONATHAN EZARIK

[Blade6119]

LUPUS STRIKES AGAIN!!!!! HELL YA!!

[st.cronin]

well pooh

[ImTheCrew]

marathoner is not in bold

[Abe Sargent]

Rock!

[Mr. Wednesday]

It takes me longer to color a paragraph than to type the entire paragraph out! I guess I should learn the message board codes to do it, but I'm too lazy.

Or use the WYSIWYG editor, and then it's one or two clicks to change color and the color sticks for your whole post.

[Blade6119]

marathoner is not in bold

lol, fighting over third place points...is this what tribes are settling to in our wake? :p

[Mr. Wednesday]

There's no way for me, at all, to color this post while I'm at work...or to format it at all.
Not true. Use the vb tags. [ color="red" ] and [ /color ] (without spaces by the brackets) to color, [ b ] and [ /b ] to bold/unbold.

[Lathum]

Mr. Wed, come visit us when you get a second ( I am sure you were probably planning on doing that anyway)

[KWhit]

Great job Anxiety!

[Poli]

I'd like to note that 1 I'm still at work and 2 tyrith has been in my thread for the last 7 minutes.

[Poli]

Now he leaves. Busted, I hope he fries.

[Poli]

VB tags don't work here at work for some reason Wednesday. I'm getting run time errors before I can even post.

[Mr. Wednesday]

That's really odd. I can't think of any reason why just posting the tags wouldn't go through.

[Poli]

I have to click through about 8 run time errors while at work to post. Good news is I hope to be home in 3 hours time.

[Tyrith]

So, um, I get my integrity assaulted by a guy that he has to go through 8 run time errors in order just to get a post off? I must ask a few questions:

1) Have I _EVER_ done anything to make it seem like I would cheat?
2) Do you think I would be so STUPID as to do such a thing?
3) How DARE you make such a claim when you admit you are having REPEATED FLAGRANT ERRORS! For all I know you accidentally came on to OUR thread and have been watching US!

Screw you AE, screw you.

[Poli]

Fuck off Tyrith. Admit it or I'm done.

[Poli]

As in, I will quit.

[Tyrith]

Bull! It's just as likely you're lying as that I actually did it. Oh, and would you know that you're already playing the game with a known cheater? How do you like THAT?

[Poli]

Fuck you. I'm done with this game. Barkeep, I'm quitting if Tyrith isn't punished.

[Tyrith]

Go ahead and quit, I'm not going to be bullied by your total nonsense.

[Tyrith]

Yeah, do you have any PROOF? You should be punished for unfounded accusations!

[Poli]

Fuck off.

[Poli]

Fuck you bitch. I have a screenshot.

[GoldenEagle]

So, um, I get my integrity assaulted by a guy that he has to go through 8 run time errors in order just to get a post off? I must ask a few questions:

1) Have I _EVER_ done anything to make it seem like I would cheat?
2) Do you think I would be so STUPID as to do such a thing?
3) How DARE you make such a claim when you admit you are having REPEATED FLAGRANT ERRORS! For all I know you accidentally came on to OUR thread and have been watching US!

Screw you AE, screw you.

So, why were you in our thread?

[Tyrith]

I WASN'T! EVER! AND ANYONE THAT'S TALKED TO ME MUCH WILL UNDERSTAND HOW BADLY I TAKE TO CHARACTER ASSAULTS!

[Poli]

Shut the fuck up you did it, I caught you.

[Tyrith]

I don't care what happens, the manner of this character assault is such that I am never going to think a kind thought about you again, AE. You didn't even take the time to think about anything, ask questions, or do diddly before you started throwing out the vicious character slander. I wonder what you'll do when you find out about the actual WW cheating that's occured...I would hate to see you be a hypocrite.

[path12]

Not to take sides in this at all, but wasn't there a problem a couple games back where it looked like people were in thread who had left a while earlier? I think we need to be careful before tossing around accusations.

[Poli]

Fuck you tyrith, I've done more to protect your ass in the real world than you will ever do. Shut the fuck up. I caught you. Own up to it you little bitch.

[Poli]

Path, he went straight to his thread after being in mine for 10 minutes. He had to have been there a while. i was going to write it off as logging off accidentally in my thread but he went straight there.Then wants to accuse me? Fuck him, fuck this game. He doesn't go. I'm done. period.

[Poli]

I'm about to leave to take sailors over for their physical health assessment. If tyrith hasn't 1 apologized or 2 owned up to it or 3 barkeep hasn't crowned his ass I'm quitting and tyrith will go on my ignore list.

[Tyrith]

I couldn't even say anything in my own defense now anyway. But honestly, I'm not going to play these insult games. I hope everyone else will realize just the kind of person you are with this. This is why WW is no fun. Second game in a row I've been viciously assaulted for doing nothing wrong.

I know what happened. No, I am not posting it here, because AE will just curse at me more. I'm done with WW. For those of you who have nice, fun to play with, it was good talking to you. For AE, SackAttack, and everyone who has spent the last two games deciding to slaughter my character....well, I hope you learn to grow sometime. I know I have to, that's why I'm leaving.

[Poli]

That's the thing tyrith, nearly everyone here does know what type of person I am. Get the hell out.

[Tyrith]

Barkeep can testify that I have not put anything into my thread that would imply that I had helped my tribe in any way. Unless you suspect a conspiracy that should pretty much clear my fellow players. Please, I humbly ask of you, don't drag them into this.

[Poli]

PS, if you're going to cheat, just friggin log out next time and view our thread as a guest.

[Poli]

Well, I have a screenshot of you in my thread.

[Poli]

dola after I posted about you being in it.

[GoldenEagle]

I WASN'T! EVER! AND ANYONE THAT'S TALKED TO ME MUCH WILL UNDERSTAND HOW BADLY I TAKE TO CHARACTER ASSAULTS!

I happened to see you in the thread as well. If it was an accident, say it. But you are acting awfully suspicious about the whole situation.

[Tyrith]

The kind of man that doesn't know how to solve a problem in a civilized manner, and that has to resort first to direct assault in a public forum, then to massive amount of profanity?

[Poli]

Fuck off. I didn't accuse you of anything at first, I wanted an explanation. You come out accusing me you little bitch.

[Tyrith]

How am I supposed to say anything now? None of the people that are currently here are the people would take the time to listen to me. The PM with my story has already been sent to BK. I already dropped from the game in a PM previous to that. You have no idea how upset I am now; my hands are shaking quite severely. However, mentally I have managed to recover mostly, and I'm not going to get into a discussion about the merits of various arguments about people's lives, no matter how much I think it'd be interesting.

[Poli]

Fine, you'll go on my ignore list now.

[Blade6119]

Tyrith, while im not trying to take sides here, i know ardent to be a very good man, upright, kind, and honest. He is a class act in every sense of the word.

You have 2 people claiming to have seen you in the thread, one says you went in twice, and your saying you were never there. Its 2v1, and i trust one of those 2 in most matters. If ardent is lying, it will be the first time ive seen it(for not "hes a wolf" reasons)

[Tyrith]

I will say right now that I actually fully believe both of their claims. That is not what I take dispute with. Hold on while I do some experimentation.

[Tyrith]

My issues with AE in this case pertain to how he dealt with it, especially the insane amount of cursing he has been doing. I wonder how'd he have acted if he found alan or maybe you, blade, cheating?

[path12]

I think this should be tabled until Barkeep gives a ruling. I like both Tyrith and AE, and frankly I have a hard time imagining that any of us are deliberately cheating. I'd rather wait until all sides are heard by the GM then continue the tone that's going on here right now.

Just my two cents. I'll be quiet now.

[GoldenEagle]

I really do not mind if someone clicks on a thread on accident and then goes and takes a ten minute shit and then comes back to the thread and posts in the forum that he made a mistake. I take this as one of things:

1. An accident
2. Wolves have permission to read all threads, and Tyrith forgot to logout.

[Blade6119]

My issues with AE in this case pertain to how he dealt with it, especially the insane amount of cursing he has been doing. I wonder how'd he have acted if he found alan or maybe you, blade, cheating?

I think thats the issue...we all know each other(as well as you can on this board), i talk with both on AIM, and i think we know what kind of characters the others have. First of all, he wouldnt have found me cheating, and secondly if he had seen me in his thread(the only way to do that would be to enter it i believe), it would have been because of a wrong click and i would have announced it. A few players have had it happen, but hes attacking you becuase your saying you were never there, not just mistakenly clicked in, and you did immediately attacking his mental aptitutude and morality. Im really not taking sides here, but im having a hard time believing both sides are being honest right now(though giving the benefit of the doubt).

[GoldenEagle]

I will say right now that I actually fully believe both of their claims. That is not what I take dispute with. Hold on while I do some experimentation.

Oh and by the way, I think AE has a lot of shit going on in real life that is not disclosed on this board. AE and I got into a tassel in the last game and I saw him rip into someone on the main board as well. It seems he on a short leash right now and that is probably contributing to that. Plus the fact that you point-blank lied about being in the thread.

[Grammaticus]

Who is ForumTesterTempAccount?

[GoldenEagle]

LOL....I see a ForumTesterTempAccount lurking.

[GoldenEagle]

Oh and Blade, why no trust for me? HATER.

[Tyrith]

The problem is that what caused it isn't something I expected to be a wrong click.

I am sure a few of you have noticed the ForumTester account viewing the thread now. That is me. It isn't actually viewing the thread. It's viewing the THREAD POST COUNT. Yeah, I probably sohuldn't have been doing that either, but it wasn't anything I really considered beyond the metagaming that had been occuring already, and I love statistics. The...whatever the heck your tribe name is thread must have been the last one I looked at, and I left the window open a few minutes. And, well, yeah. That's why I reacted so poorly in the beginning -- it wasn't something I expected at all.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

2. Wolves have permission to read all threads, and Tyrith forgot to logout.

This was my first thought as well.

[Tyrith]

Anyone else can feel free to rerun this experiment -- I had to use two different web browsers to stop the cookies from screwing up my logins.

[Grammaticus]

This was my first thought as well.

Wouldn't that telegraph who the wolves are?

[Blade6119]

Oh and Blade, why no trust for me? HATER.

Im sorry GE, how can i trust someone so personally linked to someone who has sworn a blood oath against me

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Wouldn't that telegraph who the wolves are?

Not if they went in under "Guest".

[path12]

Vote Swaggs

[Abe Sargent]

Vote Lathum

Just trying a random flyer to see if I can hit a poster


-Anxiety

[Mr. Wednesday]

VOTE Swaggs

[ImTheCrew]

Vote Alan T

[Tyrith]

I also have to say, if I were going to cheat, I would think I would be smarter than doing something THAT dumb when, well, this could have happened :P

[Marathoner]

Nice path

[Grammaticus]

Not if they went in under "Guest".

Oh, yeah that would do it.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Ouch.

[Blade6119]

Anyone else can feel free to rerun this experiment -- I had to use two different web browsers to stop the cookies from screwing up my logins.

Im sure someone will, but the fact you were messing with their threads at all is very bad in my mind...and the fact you went out of your way to attack ardent and say how your hands were shaking from attacks, to admitting you really were messing with their thread....its just leaves a bad taste in my mouth

[ImTheCrew]

dang lag EFSDSFDSFDSFDFSDSFDSFD

[GoldenEagle]

Im sorry GE, how can i trust someone so personally linked to someone who has sworn a blood oath against me

You should have seen her when she found out. She was glowing red like the color of this font. I laughed.

[Tyrith]

I wasn't messing with their thread. It was just the post count -- that didn't really seem like part of the thread to me. Yeah, like I said, probably shouldn't have been doing that either, but I've always paid far closer attention to post counts than I should. And, well, um, if we're speaking of attacks...

[Mr. Wednesday]

Im sure someone will, but the fact you were messing with their threads at all is very bad in my mind...and the fact you went out of your way to attack ardent and say how your hands were shaking from attacks, to admitting you really were messing with their thread....its just leaves a bad taste in my mouth

Why shouldn't he have been pissed about ardent's accusation if he knew that he hadn't actually been in the thread?

[Tyrith]

I felt about the same as I did when sack decided to curse at me in WW41...I pretty much barely held myself back from smashing my keyboard on something.

[path12]

Hell, I checked post counts once this game out of curiosity. Didn't really see the harm, but I guess I'll fess up to it.

[path12]

I felt about the same as I did when sack decided to curse at me in WW41...I pretty much barely held myself back from smashing my keyboard on something.


Well, all that would get you is a broken keyboard so you couldn't respond. Maybe a few deep breaths would be a better idea.

[Blade6119]

Why shouldn't he have been pissed about ardent's accusation if he knew that he hadn't actually been in the thread?



Thats the thing...we cant prove if he didnt read their thread...we can prove he was involved with it, ardent has a screen shot he said. We dont know if tyrith is telling the truth.

And why shouldnt he be pissed? Maybe because he did mess with their threads, did something he himself admits to be meta-gaming(which, like whos online and all that we STRONGLY frown upon here), and then wasnt up front about it. And he did that with all 4 threads by his own admission. Why should he be pissed when hes in the wrong, whether hes lying or telling the truth?

[Abe Sargent]

I really do not mind if someone clicks on a thread on accident and then goes and takes a ten minute shit and then comes back to the thread and posts in the forum that he made a mistake. I take this as one of things:

1. An accident
2. Wolves have permission to read all threads, and Tyrith forgot to logout.

Totally didn;t think about that - great thought!

[ImTheCrew]

there is only one way to get rid of a wolf

[Jonathan Ezarik]

And why shouldnt he be pissed? Maybe because he did mess with their threads, did something he himself admits to be meta-gaming(which, like whos online and all that we STRONGLY frown upon here), and then wasnt up front about it. And he did that with all 4 threads by his own admission. Why should he be pissed when hes in the wrong, whether hes lying or telling the truth?

Since when is looking at post counts frowned upon?

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Hell, I checked post counts once this game out of curiosity. Didn't really see the harm, but I guess I'll fess up to it.

I've done it, too. I don't remember if I've looked at the counts of other tribes, but I know I have ours and also this main thread.

[Abe Sargent]

There's a guest viewing our thread right this second

[Blade6119]

Since when is looking at post counts frowned upon?
In this game, where the GM said only deal with the common thread and your thread. Dont look it, dont read, dont do anything with other threads. If you want to post-count your tribal thread, or the common...feel free. But post-counting the threads you have explicit orders not to mess with? Come on, a 5 year old would know not to do that(no offense path and tyrith)

[Tyrith]

And I'm going to go ahead and man up to the way I acted in this thread. I got a little too heated in the earlier part of this and I have to apologize to AE and to everyone else playing the game. This day should never have had to deal with this and I have to take responsibility for my part in it.

[Tyrith]

Blade, I would choose your words very carefully there.

[Abe Sargent]

Appreciate that Tyrith

[Abe Sargent]

Very Important
This game will take place over multiple threads. There will be a common thread that all players can post in, as well as threads for each specific tribe. Players will be honor bound to only check the threads that they are supposed to look at. I am placing my faith in my fellow players agreeing not to cheat. I am basing this game off of games on another board which have worked well and am hopeful that building off of the Ethics thread that people will abide by this rule in this game.

quoted for truth

[Jonathan Ezarik]

In this game, where the GM said only deal with the common thread and your thread. Dont look it, dont read, dont do anything with other threads. If you want to post-count your tribal thread, or the common...feel free. But post-counting the threads you have explicit orders not to mess with? Come on, a 5 year old would know not to do that(no offense path and tyrith)

I don't see the harm in looking at who posts the most. Do you want me to tell you the stats for Howard? Will that give you any information on any of us?

[Blade6119]

Blade, I would choose your words very carefully there.

I chose them as i intended them, and i used them in defense of a good friend who was wrongfully attacked today.

I see you have apologized, and thats great. But i stand by my good friend ardent in this situation, even more so after you told your side of events. I wont say anymore on this matter and defer to barkeep. You will at most get scolded id imagine, but i stand by my comments.

Dont try to threaten my tyrith, with you im already on a short leash from last game.

[Blade6119]

I don't see the harm in looking at who posts the most. Do you want me to tell you the stats for Howard? Will that give you any information on any of us?

Yes, it very well could when it comes time to find wolves. The wolves have special interest in winning or losing certain challenges. Knowing whos doing what in the PRIVATE threads could be of extreme use to both the wolves and good. They are private for a reason

[Abe Sargent]

Dont try to threaten my tyrith

Damn straight, don't threaten my Tyrith! ;)

[Tyrith]

Yes, you would think some things would be private, wouldn't you, blade.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Yes, it very well could when it comes time to find wolves. The wolves have special interest in winning or losing certain challenges. Knowing whos doing what in the PRIVATE threads could be of extreme use to both the wolves and good. They are private for a reason

Do you have special knowledge that the rest of us lack?

And again, the number of times someone posts doesn't mean jack. I could have a hundred posts from today saying nothing but "Time check", does that mean anything?

[Blade6119]

Damn straight, don't threaten my Tyrith! ;)

lol, i see how it is...even lupus is turning on me!!! WELL BRING IT, LETS SETTLE THIS IN THE PROMOTION PIT(super bowl ad reference, i loved that one)

[Abe Sargent]

I don;t even know what that means Tyrith

[Tyrith]

I actually had at least seven posts this morning that were nothing besides me trying to figure out the post timing.

[Blade6119]

Do you have special knowledge that the rest of us lack?

The losing teams have to vote off one of their own...we had to do it yesterday. You can imagine that the wolves might wish to dicate which teams had to vote off their own, and which teams got immunity from wolf attacks(and a great reason why they werent night killed). Its fairly simple, winning/losing challenges will be a great key for the wolves.

[Blade6119]

Yes, you would think some things would be private, wouldn't you, blade.

?? What am i missing here?

[Jonathan Ezarik]

For what it's worth, I did check the post count for my tribe's thread, and it had me as viewing that thread even though I was in the main forum.

[Barkeep49]

Barkeep is gone for a bit I think. But I am pretty sure I know why Ntn's counted. Ntn did not vote early, was not a second voter for his team and bolded/colored his vote.

Ntn's vote was for the 10:30 vote. So it went through and was counted. Howard got 0 points for it though since it was the 4th place vote.

Howard's 12:00 vote did not count though since they had two voters (Path & Marathoner) so that vote got DQ from both of them.
Reading the thread now, but this is the correct reason for why ntn's vote counted individually (though netting his team 0 points) and GE's did not count at all.

[GoldenEagle]

Reading the thread now, but this is the correct reason for why ntn's vote counted individually (though netting his team 0 points) and GE's did not count at all.

You have a ton of reading to do.

[Blade6119]

You have a ton of reading to do.

i somewhat filled him in via AIM, its not bad

[st.cronin]

I had a feeling something like this would happen.

[Barkeep49]

I think it seems fun.

I don't mean to be negative. I just feel like this isn't really "werewolf." It's something else which I don't think I would have signed up for.

All fair enough. It is indeed something outside of the traditional WW mainstream. I tried to come up with a variety of different challenges that go in different directions. Some are obviously going to be more successful than others. It was an experiment and when everything's been done at the end, I'll be very interested to hear if it was a success or failure.

Still reading. I've been assured that there's something interesting.

[st.cronin]

Tyrith's initial reaction I think was in really poor form. AE is one of my favorite FOFCers. Even if we weren't teammates, I'd have his back in this particular case.

[LoneStarGirl]

There's a guest viewing our thread right this second

Sorry, that was me. I was mad last night so i logged off and didn't log back in to see what was going on. GE called me and said check werewolf so i did before i logged back on.

[Tyrith]

Tyrith's initial reaction I think was in really poor form. AE is one of my favorite FOFCers. Even if we weren't teammates, I'd have his back in this particular case.

How would you act if someone pretty much came out and decided that you should for burn for something you had no idea you had remotely come near doing?

[LoneStarGirl]

Damn I wish I could play so i could respond to how immature these guys are acting. And Barkeep, for what its worth, this game must have been extremely hard to put together and I appreciate all the work you did to make this enjoyable for us. I wish I could have played till the end.

[Blade6119]

Sorry, that was me. I was mad last night so i logged off and didn't log back in to see what was going on. GE called me and said check werewolf so i did before i logged back on.

Id prefer if you didnt copy messages from our private tribal thread into the common thread....:(

[Barkeep49]

Ok breaking out my Forum Mod color. If someone had asked me, "Is it alright if I check out the post count in another thread, I'd have thought about it and likely said OK. I don't think ANY of us knew that would show someone as in the thread itself.

So then we have a situation where
AE knows, correctly, that Tyrith is in a thread. AE, being AE, doesn't hold back and comes out blasting.
Tyrith finds himself suddenly faced with being accused of doing the one thing that everyone had agreed, not just me but several of the other players, was completely wrong. Tyrith knows he didn't cheat and is facing AE's statement somewhat bewildered, and probably a little defensively.

I'll say right now I don't like it when players go after each other personally. Clearly that happened here. I thank Tyrith for apologizing for his mistake and his reaction. I want to talk with Tyrith and AE a little via-PM before posting anything else. I do think that this serves as an important reminder to all about not letting the game get personal. Intense is great and why we play and keeping it in check is always a battle.

~Barkeep49, Your Friendly WW Mod

[st.cronin]

How would you act if someone pretty much came out and decided that you should for burn for something you had no idea you had remotely come near doing?

It's not like you didn't know you were viewing the post count. You should have manned up right away instead of getting all defensive.

I'm not saying your reaction is completely crazy, I'm just saying that I know AE a lot better than I know you, and that counts for something.

[Blade6119]

How would you act if someone pretty much came out and decided that you should for burn for something you had no idea you had remotely come near doing?

You yourself admitted it was meta-gaming...tyrith, I'm trying to keep my cool, but your pushing it

[Barkeep49]

DOLA --

So I ask discusison on this particular issue stop while I work behind the scenes.

Thanks.

[Tyrith]

It's not like you didn't know you were viewing the post count. You should have manned up right away instead of getting all defensive.

I'm not saying your reaction is completely crazy, I'm just saying that I know AE a lot better than I know you, and that counts for something.

I didn't know that the post count would have caused that :P I bet most of the people in this game wouldn't have realized it, either. That's why I didn't immediately fess up -- in fact, if I had known that I never would have been looking at post counts.