WW LXIX - Battlestar WereWolf - GAME OVER CYLONS WIN!

[Greyroofoo]

weaK, making stuff up! tryign to save ur ass!

if you're innocent then we know who to lynch next

[st.cronin]

Barkeep, just a note, I wasn't around at deadline TO move my vote. I likely would have argued forcefully for no lynch, however.

[Barkeep49]

Barkeep, just a note, I wasn't around at deadline TO move my vote. I likely would have argued forcefully for no lynch, however.
I hear you. You'll notice that I didn't throw my vote in your direction as we've had the whole lynch/no lynch argument before. I think today proves the idea that we need a meaningful vote on Day 1, regardless of whether it's a lynch or not.

[Barkeep49]

So Render, are there any other players who look like clap? Just wondering...

[path12]

So, wait a minute. clap attacked Narcizo and then killed Pass? What happened to Narcizo? Is he all right?

[Greyroofoo]

if you're innocent then we know who to lynch next

uh, disregard

unvote clap

[PurdueBrad]

Lathum -- 6 -- Narcizo (345), St. Cronin (361), The Jackal (417), Passacaglia (399), Sonic Youth (420), path12 (444)


Barkeep, I understand the group you are looking at. This is the one I'm going to be looking at, especially after the run on Lathum. Pass is good (we know now) and I think that helps clear Narcizo, leaving four. For me, that means Cronin, Jackal, Sonic Youth, and Path12 and right now, I'll probably vote based on which one is the most dangerous wolf of the group until we hear more.

[Barkeep49]

So, wait a minute. clap attacked Narcizo and then killed Pass? What happened to Narcizo? Is he all right?
He's not dead. Hopefully he'll give us more info when he comes around.

[PurdueBrad]

obviously unvote Claphamsa

[Barkeep49]

Barkeep, I understand the group you are looking at. This is the one I'm going to be looking at, especially after the run on Lathum. Pass is good (we know now) and I think that helps clear Narcizo, leaving four. For me, that means Cronin, Jackal, Sonic Youth, and Path12 and right now, I'll probably vote based on which one is the most dangerous wolf of the group until we hear more.
Why do you think it's more likely for the wolves to have piled onto lathum than something else?

[path12]

5 - No Lynch JeHeinz(133), The Jackal(137), Mauboy1(143), St. Cronin(147), Claphamsa(221)
5 - Claphamsa Passacaglia(140), Narcizo(181), lathum(214), Sonic Youth(220), barkeep49(229)
1 - Greyroofoo nfg22(142)
1 - Passacaglia PyrdueBrad(151)
1 - nfg22 Greyroofoo(155)
1 - Sonic Youth Path12(168)


I am looking at this group: JeHeinz(133), The Jackal(137), Mauboy1(143), St. Cronin(147), Claphamsa(221)

They all were no lynches. With no late movement, and an unknown tiebreaker, I think it's quite probable we had wolves with no place to move their vote to save clap.

I think that nfg, Purdue, Grey and myself would have to be added to this list based on this logic, which I think is pretty sound.

[Barkeep49]

I think that nfg, Purdue, Grey and myself would have to be added to this list based on this logic, which I think is pretty sound.
Why? You three could have moved to no lynch to help protect clap.

[PurdueBrad]

vote St. Cronin

I guess, for now, this is my vote. Cronin, take it partially as a compliment as I do fear you as a wolf. It was a coin toss between you and Path though, both of which are tough wolves.

[PurdueBrad]

Why do you think it's more likely for the wolves to have piled onto lathum than something else?

That's true, they could have spread their votes, particularly after the pile on. I guess I would say that I tend to look the obvious place first (people that voted off a human) and move from there.

[path12]

Why? You three could have moved to no lynch to help protect clap.

I generally believe that wolves will not risk a late day 1 switch to save one of their own. Especially since as we see now clapham had some sort of suicide bomber ability.

[Greyroofoo]

vote the jackal

because he was a no lyncher on day 1 and voted for lathum

[st.cronin]

I don't think that Sonic Youth or Barkeep are necessarily cleared by their day 1 votes, either. I think they do get SOME leeway.

[path12]

I don't think that Sonic Youth or Barkeep are necessarily cleared by their day 1 votes, either. I think they do get SOME leeway.

What helps them in my opinion is that their day 1 votes were late when clapham was already getting some heat. It would have been a pretty ballsy move to vote your fellow wolf into either being one away or into a tie when you don't know what the tiebreak is. That said, Barkeep is good enough to do that. I don't know Sonic Youth that well yet.

If the wolves had some sort of ability to switch a vote behind the scenes it becomes more plausible, I guess.

[st.cronin]

By the way, I was in a Raptor last night. I didn't get a commendation, don't know how that's determined.

[Sonic Youth]

As the crowds dispurse the claxons begin to sound- CYLON ATTACK! vipers and Raptors take to the skies, explosions rock the ships and panic stricken refugees scream for safe keeping. The battle rages for about 10 minutes, but in the end they are driven off and none of the fleet is lost.
What I want to know is who was on that vessel.

[Sonic Youth]

By the way, I was in a Raptor last night. I didn't get a commendation, don't know how that's determined.
And yet you didn't participate in the fighting off the Cylon?

[st.cronin]

And yet you didn't participate in the fighting off the Cylon?

Not correct, I was right in the midst of the battle, fighting for the good guys. My pm was quite clear. Hence my wondering how the commendations were determined.

[Sonic Youth]

I can't answer that, as I don't know the answer? Unless your character isn't as good a flyer as mine :D

[Sonic Youth]

And that should be a fullstop '.' not a question mark.

[nfg22]

Ill go with GRF just to get some heat on one of the No Lynchers..

[st.cronin]

VOTE NFG22

[st.cronin]

Provisional vote.

[The Jackal]

THE FLYERS WON!!!

[mauchow]

Interesting turn of events. So, we lost two villagers and one wolf since I was last online. Okie dokie. I agree that we could easily look onto the list of people who voted No Lynch which includes me and I'm okay with that since I know I'm good.

Anyhow, I am on Cloud 9 now and I didn't see anything whatsoever.

As for my vote for tomorrow, I got nothing to go on except the list of No Lynchers, which I'll divulge into tomorrow cuz its too late to do some more digging.

[Sonic Youth]

Catching up, nothing to report from last night. I tried to board one of the Vipers, but somebody beat me to it, and I'm still on Peprika.Where did you try and board one of the Vipers St.Cronin?

[st.cronin]

The Viper I tried to board night 1. Last night I boarded a Raptor.

[Sonic Youth]

As to why you didn't get a medal St.Cronin, it's probably down to your craft.

[Sonic Youth]

Thinking of the battle overnight, would this be what we would expect to see in an attempted night kill for a the Cylon's? Did they have any sort of special way of killing a victim?

What we also need to know is whether someone survived the night because of this.

[Narcizo]

Clap jumped out during the Cylon raid and attacked me hand to hand. Pass drove him off.

Looks like Pass saved me twice.

[Narcizo]

Sorry Lath. I guess I showed my inexperience in misreading your posts. If I'd have had time to think about it I might have worked out what your thinking was but I wouldn't count on it. Wish I'd kept my vote on Jackal.

[Narcizo]

I have to say that Sonic shifting from a no lynch to a vote on Clap really raises him a lot in my estimation. I know it doesn't fully clear him, yadda, yadda but at the time he made it the shift would really have put Clap in an unforeseeable amount of trouble. There's no way I see a rookie doing that unless he was coached. And then I still can't see any wolf doing it anyway. I'm also inclined to give Barkeep some leeway. You can argue that he really didn't have much choice at the time as he'd backed himself into a corner but I've got to believe that he would try to find some other way out. It nothing like clears him as much as it does Sonic though.

[Narcizo]

1) There was a conversion. Night 1 seems a bit of a stretch for something like that, but possible.
2) There was an attack and it was blocked. Nobody has come forward to say anything of the sort.
3) There was an attack and it failed for some other reason. Possibly the Cylon and the target need to be at the same place? Would lean towards keeping our location plans quiet.
4) There was no attack at all. This seems odd also, unless a deadline mixup.


Let's revisit.
1) still seems unlikely. A day one conversion is senseless for the wolves
2) I saw the results of the block. There, obviously, could be a random element to this, but it seems unlikely there was a block on day one.
3) This remains a possibility as it happens. I stated where I was and from what I can understand of what went down the Cylon raid meant I didn't move from my location until after I was attacked. It's possible that the raid is a device the Cylons have to freeze people in their current positions. Therefore I'm now against revealing where people have been. I still think that it's highly unlikely to be the case though as heinz pointed out there's a lot of locations and a diminishing number of targets.
4) Still remains a possibility. I fail to see why it is silly when there are a lot of cases of missed kill attempts that I can think of and at least two people have stated that they missed their night actions. If they could do so then why shouldn't a wolf as well. Makes me suspicious of anyone who didn't reveal a location yesterday (flying contrary to point 3).

And a new one
5) The Cylons just didn't get a kill attempt on day one for whatever reason.

[Narcizo]

Barkeep, I understand the group you are looking at. This is the one I'm going to be looking at, especially after the run on Lathum. Pass is good (we know now) and I think that helps clear Narcizo, leaving four. For me, that means Cronin, Jackal, Sonic Youth, and Path12 and right now, I'll probably vote based on which one is the most dangerous wolf of the group until we hear more.

I'm not sure how much you can deduce from voting patterns in a clear villager-villager run off. If you want to read anything into it you should be looking at people who voted for neither Lathum nor me, avoiding being caught voting for a villager either way. (heinz, NFG, Grey, BK) Then again that's what Clap did so I wouldn't imagine all the wolves would do the same.

[Sonic Youth]

I have to say that Sonic shifting from a no lynch to a vote on Clap really raises him a lot in my estimation. I know it doesn't fully clear him, yadda, yadda but at the time he made it the shift would really have put Clap in an unforeseeable amount of trouble. There's no way I see a rookie doing that unless he was coached. And then I still can't see any wolf doing it anyway. I'm also inclined to give Barkeep some leeway. You can argue that he really didn't have much choice at the time as he'd backed himself into a corner but I've got to believe that he would try to find some other way out. It nothing like clears him as much as it does Sonic though.If I'd read as carefully like I was on day 2, I'd have voted for him again. He did exactly the same things as he did on day 1, but too many people where saying he might have been cleared. I'm not going that way again, and will chalk that up to a novice error. Some of the things he said were a bit odd too upon rereading. Easy to say with hindsight, but my vote went on that Pass seemed to be very sure, and so I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately Lathum was looking like he was firing missiles willy-nilly which swayed me a little I guess.

What I want to know is why St.Cronin cast his vote on Lathum so early. It started the trend towards him. Narkle had cause I'd say, but St.Cronin?

He also had this unfortunate agreement with Clap:
I'm amused by posts 334 and 335.
as am i....
Which might mean nothing.

But this might:
Sorry if this has been asked and answered, but do we know how the tie was broken?
Would a wolf ask this question? And we still don't know the answer to it.

I've been tempted to vote for him, but that question keeps popping into my thoughts when I consider.

Now, someone like NFG has been very silent(he did say had bought a new car which we can find out about :D ), and Barkeep(who has been mildly quiet) and Greyroofoo(who we haven't heard much from at all) didn't shake their vote from Pass. And not until after the vote when Clap ambushed Pass did he be proved that Pass was good and Clap was bad did have vindication, much like Lathum. I can't ask Pass how he knew though.

I'm going to set a vote after this and place it on one of the Pass voters as they really didn't give a reason why.

Vote Barkeep49.

[Narcizo]

I think it has to be blue or a seperate post Son.

[Narcizo]

VOTE NARCIZO

I don't like the vote, but that run on Lathum worries me.

I hear what you're saying, but ANY late run without some kind of defense makes me a bit nervous. I don't like what Lathum did, but for him to not be around and get run on always has a bit of a wolfish smell to it, though I do not believe you are a wolf yourself.

OK Pass, I'll trust you on this.

UNVOTE NARCIZO
VOTE LATHUM

This screams wolf to me. Path votes for me despite the fact that Pass has vouched for me. That seems odd from the outset. In the case of a vouch you accept it and then try to assertain if the person doing the vouch is trustworthy. Then he moots the idea that a run on Lathum is wolfish and then he lays out the "I'll trust you on this" card. That looks like a perfect bit of blame-placing in preparation for Lathum coming up villager.

Path you're going to have to cough up some information to get me to move this vote.

[Narcizo]

VOTE PATH

[Narcizo]

Just to point out that the plan to place blame worked as well, as Barkeep was ready to reveal and use a night kill on Pass over the result of the vote. I think this should act as a warning that people need to be wary of being trigger happy. At the moment any kill attempt is, statistically, likely to hit a human- no matter how "sure" you are about the need for it. The chances are you'll be aiding the Cylons without providing any voting patterns for us to work with. So, unless you're certain someone is a Cylon, don't be killing them. Particularly now that it seems that the vicious wolf is dead.

[Narcizo]

Current vote count.

Heinz - Barkeep (499)
st cronin - Purdue (513)
Jackal - Grey (516)
NFG - Cronin (526)
Barkeep - Sonic (539)
Path - Narcizo (542)

Not voted: Mauboy, Jackal, Heinz, NFG, Path

[Sonic Youth]

I have one theory but feel it's best to keep that under wraps for now.What is your theory Path? Why was it that only you saw both Pass and Jeheinz?

[Narcizo]

I found, and cue the song "Age of Aquarius", the Jar of Aquarius, a clue to Earth. As far as I can tell, no other use.

I'm thinking, perhaps, that we might not want to up and reveal if we've found any clues at the moment. To be honest I doubt we're going to be able to find all the clues - it really seems like a race only the Cylons can win. While finding clues is all well and good (in that it probably prevents them getting them) I think we need to concentrate on killing all the Cylons before they get all the clues.

[Sonic Youth]

Reading back before the day 2 shenanigans regarding the vote. I'm going to give Barkeep the benefit as he at least but a reason up:
I don't like any of the three candidates with votes so I'm going to go with someone who seems to be playing more like his wolf self than villager self, I feel.

Vote Pass

Unvote Barkeep.
Vote Greyroofoo.

My reason? He came on 50 minutes before the deadline, and seemingly picked some at random? Maybe, but without a reason? And one of his few posts in the whole thread? A bit too quiet me thinks.

Narcizo, the colour of the vote isn't important, but bolding the vote bit is. It's in the rules. Which is what I have been doing.

[Narcizo]

"Most be bold and in a post by themselves".

Render later said that they could be in with another post as long as they are in blue.

[Sonic Youth]

Vote Greyroofoo.

[Narcizo]

Ok here's a hypothetical situation. What has me confused is why the wolves targeted me for a night kill rather than Pass, for example. Pass seems like the most likely target for a night kill from what I can see (which, possibly, is why he wasn't targeted of course). Anyway,

There's a run off between me and Lathum (partially my own fault I'll admit). Passa comes out with what, admittedly, looks like a curious vouch for me. I think the wolves, knowing both Lathum and I are villagers, send in a conditional kill order. If I get lynched Lathum is offed, if he gets lynched I get offed. Now this makes it clear that Passa was right when he vouched for me. But the manner in which he vouched for me looks very suspicious, especially as it resulted in the death of a villager. The wolves hope someone else connects the dots and claim that Passa was buying trust by vouching for me. Bang! They take out three villagers. The only fly in the ointment was that Passa blocked the kill attempt on me and saw that it was clap.

Who seems to be setting this hypothetical scenario up? I'd say Path, barkeep and st cronin. Barkeep's reaction looks like that of a human to me. Not so about st.cronin but Path's responses quoted above really look damning from where I'm sitting.

[jeheinz72]

Wow, lotsa stuff since I was last here! Good job nailing claphamsa Pass, I saw the whole ordeal as well, as I was on Galactica. Sucks you had to die though to get the deed done.

[jeheinz72]

I am looking at this group: JeHeinz(133), The Jackal(137), Mauboy1(143), St. Cronin(147), Claphamsa(221)

They all were no lynches. With no late movement, and an unknown tiebreaker, I think it's quite probable we had wolves with no place to move their vote to save clap.

Unvote clap
Vote Jeheinz

That's fine and all that (since I"m basically a useless Human) but why me out of that group?

I leave at 6 PM EST man and don't come back, when I had left, IIRC clap didn't have all that many votes.

To me, that list, combined with Day Two's votes show 3 better candidates than I, let's recap your list

clap: obviously bad, we know.
Me; voted No Lynch and then path (who some/many still suspect)
Cronin: NL and then Lathum (confirmed villager)
Jacka: NL and then Lathum (confirmed villager)
Mau: NL and then Narcizo (very very likely villager)

Yet you pick me out of that crowd? Strange beans.

I'll be voting for one of those other 3, almost without a doubt.

[Narcizo]

5 - No Lynch JeHeinz(133), The Jackal(137), Mauboy1(143), St. Cronin(147), Claphamsa(221)
5 - Claphamsa Passacaglia(140), Narcizo(181), lathum(214), Sonic Youth(220), barkeep49(229)
1 - Greyroofoo nfg22(142)
1 - Passacaglia PyrdueBrad(151)
1 - nfg22 Greyroofoo(155)
1 - Sonic Youth Path12(168)


People really, really need to stop attaching so much importance to the no lynch vote as being any sort of indicator of a Cylon. No it's very possible that there is another wolf voting no lynch but to try and construe it as some sort of save attempt for Clap just doesn't stand up at all.

The last vote for no lynch (other than Clap's own self-preservation vote) was at #147. Clap only really looks in danger when Sonic switches his vote at #220.

If you want to argue that it's wolfish to vote no lynch on day one then fair enough but, aside from that and as Path pointed out, the people who voted singletons are every bit as worthy of suspicion as the no lynch voters. Which means that the only real analysis you can draw from the day one vote is that the five people who voted Clap are less likely to be wolves. (particularly Sonic and myself - Sonic because his switch really endangered clap, me because I put the second vote on Clap when I easily could have put it elsewhere, or left it on Jackal) Unfortunately two of those people are dead.

[Narcizo]

Why? You three could have moved to no lynch to help protect clap.

This is refering to Path's statement that nfg, Grey, Purdue or Path can't be ruled out by a day one vote analysis.

Nfg, Purdue and Path all said that they don't like a no lynch vote. Switching to a no lynch vote would look ultra-suspicious for them, and clap.

[Narcizo]

I hate having the separate vote post. Anyway, Heinz gets my vote because he looks like the first legal no lynch today.

VOTE JEHEINZ72

Crap, didn't see clapham's vote. I don't want to double up this soon.

UNVOTE JEHEINZ72
VOTE SONIC YOUTH

Even at the time I was wondering why Path didn't want to put a second vote on heinz, as a challenge to the no lynch vote. It made no sense to me at the time and Pass and heinz both commented on it at the time. Of course, if Path knows clap is a wolf he'd be very wary of potentially challenging the no-lynch vote with a wolf one-two vote on someone. I can see him voting, noticing that clap has voted and then moving his vote quickly.

[jeheinz72]

I'm tellin' ya, Path is a baddie. I may not vote for him again today, but I don't like what I'm seeing from him.

[Narcizo]

Finally there's the whole Kara thing.I would imagine that Path is going to claim some sort of semi-seer/seer role explaining how he knew that Pass's real name was Kara. (I was wondering what that was all about at the time, the whole thing seemed bizarre). However I would say that the fact that he was able to discover Pass's real name in no way means that he isn't a wolf. You could just as easily argue that he was a wolf looking to buy trust by revealing to Pass that he knew his name. I don't see a full-blown seer risking themselves coming out with a reveal that could easily be traced like that.

Whether path is a wolf or not I suspect that me going so strongly after him puts my life at risk even before the deadline (if there are day kills out there - kill me to make path look bad) so I'd better get as much information out there as possible. To back up that there is information to be had for any role I have seen a recent medical report that states that nfg is a human.

[Narcizo]

I guess I should probably have put that somewhere more noticeable than at the bottom of a post so just to state that I've seen evidence that says that NFG is human. This could well be my last post before deadline. I've hogged the thread too much anyway.

[path12]

This screams wolf to me. Path votes for me despite the fact that Pass has vouched for me. That seems odd from the outset. In the case of a vouch you accept it and then try to assertain if the person doing the vouch is trustworthy. Then he moots the idea that a run on Lathum is wolfish and then he lays out the "I'll trust you on this" card. That looks like a perfect bit of blame-placing in preparation for Lathum coming up villager.

Path you're going to have to cough up some information to get me to move this vote.

I've already coughed up enough information, thanks very much. I voted for you originally, saying I wasn't thrilled with it BECAUSE Pass had vouched for you, simply because the run on Lathum (a human as we now know) concerned me and you were the next leading vote getter. Pass (who I trusted and who trusted me, hence his post yesterday saying that I needed protection) ended up swaying me over away from you and onto Lathum.

I would dispute your contention that it "screams wolf". I thought it made perfect sense at the time and would likely make the same move again.

As for more information, sorry. You're a smart guy, you should be able to see why Pass trusted me.

[path12]

What is your theory Path? Why was it that only you saw both Pass and Jeheinz?

Again, I don't know you well, but you've struck me as someone who can read a game pretty well. There is a reason Pass trusted me, and you should be able to figure out why.

[jeheinz72]

I don't know, all of those alluding just seems like a way a wolf stirs the pot.

Path, Cronin, Jackal, Mau.

Eeny, meenie, miney, mo.

For whom does my vote go?

[path12]

I don't know, all of those alluding just seems like a way a wolf stirs the pot.

Path, Cronin, Jackal, Mau.

Eeny, meenie, miney, mo.

For whom does my vote go?

Do a little dance with that song and you could be on Ellen!

[jeheinz72]

Vote Path

Cronin I always default to wolf, I"m going to let that slide for the time being.

Jackal I'll let slide due to his vote possibly being somewhat uninformed while wasted at the Flyers game

Mau always strikes me as wolf and his play isn't a-typical in any way, though I tend to always have the opposite read on him (think good when bad, think bad when good).

Path is left, he's playing wildly different from how I've seen him in the past and his actions give me enough basis to feel good about this as well.

[path12]

VOTE JEHEINZ72

[path12]

His heart is not pure, friends.

[path12]

Oops. That should read, her heart is not pure, friends.

[jeheinz72]

His heart is not pure, friends.


Huh?

[jeheinz72]

Oops. That should read, her heart is not pure, friends.

I don't know where you get the unpure thing from, but I am a her, and since I hadn't posted that anywhere yet I'm inclined to believe you.

Unvote Path12

[jeheinz72]

Which narrows my list down to 3. Of the 3, I like this option the best

Vote Mauboy1

[Barkeep49]

I don't know where you get the unpure thing from, but I am a her, and since I hadn't posted that anywhere yet I'm inclined to believe you.

Unvote Path12
Inclined to agree that you're heart isn't pure?

[The Jackal]

Remind me not to drink that much. But at least it spurred me to a good night location! Ill decide on a vote later when I get back from work.

[jeheinz72]

Inclined to agree that you're heart isn't pure?

No, I don't get that part. But what I'm saying is he called me a her, which I am, and he had no way of knowing that (at least as far as this thread).

[Narcizo]

I'd say that you're reading too much into his ability to discern what your name is. He did the same thing with pass. Big deal. Ability to scan for name is no proof of allegiance. In fact it could be a handy power for a wolf to gain trust.

[Barkeep49]

Here's the thing though: the one Cylon we've killed didn't, apparently, have a name.

[jeheinz72]

Here's the thing though: the one Cylon we've killed didn't, apparently, have a name.

Yeah he did, Valeri something (it's in the initial post, but not RendeR's writeup)

[Barkeep49]

Yeah he did, Valeri something (it's in the initial post, but not RendeR's writeup)
Indeed. And Boomer is a Cylon in the show. I am in the camp of those who don't believe GMs when they say that a character's name has no bearing to side. It mattered in the Heros game and it appears to matter here.

[jeheinz72]

Indeed. And Boomer is a Cylon in the show. I am in the camp of those who don't believe GMs when they say that a character's name has no bearing to side. It mattered in the Heros game and it appears to matter here.

I dunno, not that it matters but I had Nathan and Micah (and Dr. Suresh) as "bad guys" in Heroes. The first two pretty clearly aren't bad guys in the show, and Suresh is at worst misguided on the show.

So I believe RendeR to that extent, about allegience.

Now as far as *power* it seems we're looking at a pretty good match-up of those, from what I can gather going off of Wiki

[mauchow]

My character in the Heroes game was a company member in the show but I was a villager with a company name. I'm sure it means something but I wouldn't read into it too much. Whatever though, do what you want. lol

Anyways, I'm not sure yet who I want to vote for. I'm leaning on Path the most, but again, not even close to 100%. I've got a small idea but it probably won't float well again. I'll check back in later.

[jeheinz72]

I'm all ears Mau, since my vote is on you.

[path12]

For the record, heinz is not a Cylon. I'm going to take my vote off of him since I would rather try and find a Cylon.

BTW, I glanced through wiki, but not knowing the show I'm unsure of what some locations might mean in a game sense. Can someone explain Kobol, Pegasis and Cloud 9 to me?

[path12]

UNVOTE JEHEINZ72

[path12]

Indeed. And Boomer is a Cylon in the show. I am in the camp of those who don't believe GMs when they say that a character's name has no bearing to side. It mattered in the Heros game and it appears to matter here.

I had a bad guy name in the Heroes game and was good. Same thing in this one, actually.

[Barkeep49]

Kobol is the name of the planet that all humans came from.

Pegasus was another battleship.

Cloud 9 is a bit of a resort ship/ship where they grow food.

[jeheinz72]

For the record, heinz is not a Cylon. I'm going to take my vote off of him since I would rather try and find a Cylon.

Ok good, I don't know what you were getting at, but yeah a vote for me is silly, I'm a Human

BTW, I glanced through wiki, but not knowing the show I'm unsure of what some locations might mean in a game sense. Can someone explain Kobol, Pegasis and Cloud 9 to me?

I really don't know much about this either. I mean I read up on them, and do you think we should worry about what happened to these on the show? For instance Pegasis was destroyed on the show it seems. Is that a worry for anyone who goes there?

[mauchow]

I'm all ears Mau, since my vote is on you.

Ah, didn't even notice it, bro.

Personally, going from the list that voted No Lynch it does come down to pretty much you and me. If it does come down to you and me I'll be voting for you despite the fact that I don't think you're a Cylon. You and me both aren't Cylons then that would mean that all the Cylons put votes and Clap the first night. Which would be highly unlikely but not a bad play if coordinated perfectly.

Anyhow, I have no 'proof' or 'evidence' that says that I'm a human. I've had two straight nights of no eventful things happening.

[Barkeep49]

If path thinks JH is good that's fine. Do we have a vote count as I am about to unvote.

Unvote Jeheinz

[mauchow]

Ok good, I don't know what you were getting at, but yeah a vote for me is silly, I'm a Human



I really don't know much about this either. I mean I read up on them, and do you think we should worry about what happened to these on the show? For instance Pegasis was destroyed on the show it seems. Is that a worry for anyone who goes there?
That would be a LOL twist. I think I'm gonna stay away from Pegesus for that very reason.

I need to do some research as to make sure I don't go places that are going to blow up. It'd be nice to find some artifact of Earth, so I think I've got an idea for a place to go tonight.

[jeheinz72]

Ah, didn't even notice it, bro.

Personally, going from the list that voted No Lynch it does come down to pretty much you and me. If it does come down to you and me I'll be voting for you despite the fact that I don't think you're a Cylon. You and me both aren't Cylons then that would mean that all the Cylons put votes and Clap the first night. Which would be highly unlikely but not a bad play if coordinated perfectly.

Anyhow, I have no 'proof' or 'evidence' that says that I'm a human. I've had two straight nights of no eventful things happening.

Why do we eliminate Cronin and Jackal from potential baddies on the No Lynch list?

[jeheinz72]

Well, I leave in an hour, and obviously I'm the only one getting Mau's vibe. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

[Narcizo]

For the record, heinz is not a Cylon. I'm going to take my vote off of him since I would rather try and find a Cylon.

BTW, I glanced through wiki, but not knowing the show I'm unsure of what some locations might mean in a game sense. Can someone explain Kobol, Pegasis and Cloud 9 to me?

UNVOTE JEHEINZ72

Sorry to be go on but why did you vote for someone you knew was a human? Or would revealing that be giving too much away?

Well that's me. Path seems to be saying that he has some sort of seer power. If he is, the good news is that the Cylons might think that he is so compromised that he's not worth killing. The bad news is, well, that from where I'm sitting he looks very compromised and I don't know how far he or his seer power can be trusted. It's also possible this is also a ruse to flush out the true seer. If you're a seer I suggest you don't reveal. I'm not moving my vote. I'm not going to say that everyone should vote for him, because I'm not sure he's a bad guy. I just think the evidence overwhelmingly points to him being bad as opposed to evidence against anyone else.

[nfg22]

If I'd read as carefully like I was on day 2, I'd have voted for him again. He did exactly the same things as he did on day 1, but too many people where saying he might have been cleared. I'm not going that way again, and will chalk that up to a novice error. Some of the things he said were a bit odd too upon rereading. Easy to say with hindsight, but my vote went on that Pass seemed to be very sure, and so I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately Lathum was looking like he was firing missiles willy-nilly which swayed me a little I guess.

What I want to know is why St.Cronin cast his vote on Lathum so early. It started the trend towards him. Narkle had cause I'd say, but St.Cronin?

He also had this unfortunate agreement with Clap:


Which might mean nothing.

But this might:

Would a wolf ask this question? And we still don't know the answer to it.

I've been tempted to vote for him, but that question keeps popping into my thoughts when I consider.

Now, someone like NFG has been very silent(he did say had bought a new car which we can find out about :D ), and Barkeep(who has been mildly quiet) and Greyroofoo(who we haven't heard much from at all) didn't shake their vote from Pass. And not until after the vote when Clap ambushed Pass did he be proved that Pass was good and Clap was bad did have vindication, much like Lathum. I can't ask Pass how he knew though.

I'm going to set a vote after this and place it on one of the Pass voters as they really didn't give a reason why.

Vote Barkeep49.

Check it out...its a Suzuki SX4 Sport. Yet if you do check it out it will come up as a hatchback since the VIN is so new....Anyways that doesnt clear me from being a wolf. Long story short I am usually very active and that has been the case when I was villager and wolf so there is no pattern. I could be either now. Yet, I am a villager. My post didnt show my vote. Anyways.

VOTE THE JACKAL

[path12]

Kobol is the name of the planet that all humans came from.

Pegasus was another battleship.

Cloud 9 is a bit of a resort ship/ship where they grow food.

Do you think any of them might be of more use than another as far as finding clues or items go?

[nfg22]

I guess I should probably have put that somewhere more noticeable than at the bottom of a post so just to state that I've seen evidence that says that NFG is human. This could well be my last post before deadline. I've hogged the thread too much anyway.

And WHO gave you access to MY records?

[path12]

Sorry to be go on but why did you vote for someone you knew was a human? Or would revealing that be giving too much away?

Let's just say I was trying to get his attention.

[nfg22]

Does anyone esle think that the interaction that just happened between path and heinz, is just a little unusual? I mean it would be bold for wolves to play off eachother like that but it seems suspicious to me...

[st.cronin]

UNVOTE NFG22
VOTE ...

[st.cronin]

I guess I should probably have put that somewhere more noticeable than at the bottom of a post so just to state that I've seen evidence that says that NFG is human. This could well be my last post before deadline. I've hogged the thread too much anyway.

I wish you would elaborate on this. What kind of evidence? Is there room for interpretation?

[jeheinz72]

Does anyone esle think that the interaction that just happened between path and heinz, is just a little unusual? I mean it would be bold for wolves to play off eachother like that but it seems suspicious to me...

I ain't no wolf amigo. If I was a wolf, I'd be a heckuva lot smarter than that, I assure you.

[path12]

Does anyone esle think that the interaction that just happened between path and heinz, is just a little unusual? I mean it would be bold for wolves to play off eachother like that but it seems suspicious to me...

In what way? Here's the problem I'm having and I think it's at the root of this suspicion -- I've had to hint at certain of my abilities, which as Narcizo rightly points out is a good way to compromise them. When pressed as I was this morning from multiple sources, I had to give up more than I wanted to. I now fully expect to be Cylon food at some point, though I am not defenseless, which helps. In the meantime, I would like to continue toward our mutual goal, which is smoking out Cylons.

[st.cronin]

What is the vote count?

[nfg22]

I ain't no wolf amigo. If I was a wolf, I'd be a heckuva lot smarter than that, I assure you.

When I asked anyone else, I meant everyone but you and path but you are entitled to your own explanation. In that case, I dont really believe you because a dumb move could get you cleared because they dont think your a wolf then. your on my radar.

[nfg22]

Ok here is my problem.

Basically you throw a vote on heinz and say she is impure. She says something that doesnt clear anything up. You then later remove your vote and say Heinz is Human. You then say you were just trying to get Heinz's

Attention for what? We dont know. Why? We dont know.

[st.cronin]

Is there any indication that the wolves don't know each other? Or that there are multiple factions of wolves, that don't know each other, but are working together? Otherwise I'm willing to stay away from path and heinz at least for today. There are other options.

[jeheinz72]

When I asked anyone else, I meant everyone but you and path but you are entitled to your own explanation. In that case, I dont really believe you because a dumb move could get you cleared because they dont think your a wolf then. your on my radar.


Hehe, I figured I wasn't the answerer you were looking for. ;)

I don't know what to say. I'm not a wolf, and admiteddly have no evidence to back it up. I have an ability, though it's pretty low key. I guess it could be cool, but it hasn't done jack-squat for me the first two nights.

But I don't have any nifty trick or something I can say to make anyone believe me, short of a Seer scanning me and clearing me (which I don't condone, the Seer should stay quiet IMO)

If that puts me on your radar, so be it, I get that.

[nfg22]

Well just to back up my talk....

UNVOTE THE JACKAL

VOTE PATH12

[st.cronin]

VOTE PURDUEBRAD

[jeheinz72]

Why PB Cronin?

I leave in 15 and with no one voting with me, it seems silly for me to waste my vote on Mau

[Barkeep49]

Is there any indication that the wolves don't know each other? Or that there are multiple factions of wolves, that don't know each other, but are working together? Otherwise I'm willing to stay away from path and heinz at least for today. There are other options.
In the show the Cylons, by and large, know each other. HOWEVER, there are cases where there are cylons who think they're humans. Other Cylons, however, know they're humans.

[mauchow]

Why PB Cronin?

I leave in 15 and with no one voting with me, it seems silly for me to waste my vote on Mau

It's a waste, one way or another anyways.

[jeheinz72]

Hrm, looking at the votes it seems we have path with 2 votes 5 people with one (Cronin, Jackal, mau, PB, GFR)

Unvote Mauboy1
Vote Cronin

[jeheinz72]

It's a waste, one way or another anyways.

Well, I still have my eye on you, but yeah, in such a spread and no one agreeing with me, I need to move to another candidate.

[st.cronin]

Just, he voted for me, so I know at worst he is not a seer.

[path12]

Attention for what? We dont know. Why? We dont know.

I would love to explain it more, but there are more than just humans reading this thread. Everything I have said about heinz is true though.

[jeheinz72]

Well, I'm outta here for the night. Cya gents.

[st.cronin]

In the show the Cylons, by and large, know each other. HOWEVER, there are cases where there are cylons who think they're humans. Other Cylons, however, know they're humans.

I guess I was more wondering if there was any indication in the game. That is interesting, though.

[The Jackal]

All I can really do to defend myself is point to the commendation, I did save a bunch of people.. it's a reason why I don't suspect Sonic Youth at all at this point. Does it make sense that if a cylon was on one of the vipers last night that they would have tried to save the freighter? Doesn't really make sense to me.

As for who to vote for, there's a few hours yet, and I'm not sold on anyone.

[RendeR]

1.5 hours actually

[PurdueBrad]

Although Jackal is a former terrorist name, I'm willing to trust him so far as I haven't seen reason not too! So I'll give the newbie a pass for now.

[PurdueBrad]

So Jackal, as a fellow "noob", are you working from a list of suspects?

[Sonic Youth]

All I can really do to defend myself is point to the commendation, I did save a bunch of people.. it's a reason why I don't suspect Sonic Youth at all at this point. Does it make sense that if a cylon was on one of the vipers last night that they would have tried to save the freighter? Doesn't really make sense to me.
The reason I'm giving St.Cronin the benefit for now. I think after this deadline well have a whole new bunch of info to go off.

[path12]

Do we have a vote count?

[RendeR]

Current vote count.

PurdueBrad - St. Cronin(606)
st cronin - Purdue (513), Jeheinz(569)
Jackal - Grey (516)
Path - Narcizo (542), nfg22(605)
greyroofoo - Sonic (549)

[mauchow]

Yeah, do we have a vote count and who has been put into the circle of trust so far?

I'm leaning towards Greyroofoo as my vote. I think he's more quiet than me and I feel I have been pretty quiet. The quiet person might get my vote if I really have nothing to go off. I nearly followed Heinz's vote on Path just because there didn't seem to be anything else at the moment, but, you know how it goes.

[mauchow]

Fuggit..

[mauchow]

vote greyroofoo

[path12]

I could use my vote to take myself out of the tie, but I think I'm going to vote for someone who's been around hardly at all. If he has a role or anything at all to contribute to the conversation, I haven't seen it.

[path12]

VOTE GREYROOFOO

[st.cronin]

I'll move my vote to path if I need to, but I'll wait and see what happens.

[path12]

Looks like mau and I have the same thought.

[mauchow]

Well, my vote was definitely 3 minutes sooner than yours so I'm going to look at you as a pile on vote MAYBE. It's hard to view anybody in a negative light though, at this rate.

[st.cronin]

Yeah, do we have a vote count and who has been put into the circle of trust so far?

Cot at this point is Narcizo (Pass vouched for him), Barkeep (placed a relatively late vote on clap on day 1), nfg22 (Narcizo claimed he was human).

[RendeR]

Got a number of no-action people still, with 25 minutes to deadline.....

[mauchow]

Okay, thanks for that list, cronin.

[claphamsa]

Got a number of no-action people still, with 25 minutes to deadline.....

ill vote if you want me to...

[st.cronin]

No votes still from The Jackal, Barkeep,

[RendeR]

ill vote if you want me to...


Shaddup, yer a dead skinjob.... ;)

[Sonic Youth]

Cot at this point is Narcizo (Pass vouched for him), Barkeep (placed a relatively late vote on clap on day 1), nfg22 (Narcizo claimed he was human).Greyroofoo voted for nfg22 the first day, and then voted for pass with 50mins to go the second.

[path12]

Well, my vote was definitely 3 minutes sooner than yours so I'm going to look at you as a pile on vote MAYBE. It's hard to view anybody in a negative light though, at this rate.

Yeah? Well.....well......I type slow. Take THAT! :p

[st.cronin]

UNVOTE PURDUEBRAD
VOTE GREYROOFOO

[st.cronin]

That's a self-defense move, more or less.

[The Jackal]

Grr, was busy and couldn't get back till right now. What'd the votes end up at?

[The Jackal]

So Jackal, as a fellow "noob", are you working from a list of suspects?

No, not really, I haven't been overly suspicious of anyone.

[st.cronin]

I think GRF is the leader.

[RendeR]

Deadlines come and Deadlines go, this one...went, a few minutes ago....

Final Vote Count:

2 - st cronin - Purdue (513), Jeheinz(569)
1 - Jackal - Grey (516)
2 - Path - Narcizo (542), nfg22(605)
4 - greyroofoo - Sonic (549), mauboy1(625), path12(629), St. Cronin(639)


Everyone looks around at everyone else, no one really seems to know who to trust anymore. Finally some movement as votes get tabulated points to greyroofoo as tonights victim and Cylon test subject.

He struggles valiently but in the end is overpowered and succombs to being strapped down and tested for Cylon DNA.....

greyroofoo was technician Cally from the Hanger deck. A Human in all respects.

upon inspection of Cally's belongings someone screams "HOLY FRAK!!....SHe had a NUKE!!!"

Everyone gathers around and looks at the small tacital weapon in awe. The shear power of this thing...WTF was cally thinking?

Security comes and removes the weapon from unsteady hands. It would appear that that threat is over.

More to come....

[RendeR]

Actually folks, I have to run. I'll post the aftereffects of night actions as soon as I get time, could be a couple hours. I sincerely apologize for the delay.

[st.cronin]

Hrm.

[mauchow]

Hrm, is right.

[Greyroofoo]

Rosebud

[RendeR]

Ok I'm back, PM's going out momentarily.

Sorry that my love life interfered with the game!

[The Jackal]

Ok I'm back, PM's going out momentarily.

Sorry that my love life interfered with the game!


Nice.

Nothing eventful happened for me in this night, guys. I went to Pegasus and all was quiet. I didn't explode!

[RendeR]

The night goes by semi-quietly. There was a report of a disturbance on board Colonial One but it appears that security handled it. Then the news comes up:

"We now have breaking news to report! The body of Chief petty Officer Galon Tyrol was found dead today on Kobol. his head twisted so far around as to be facing the wrong direction. No perpetrator has yet been found and Colonial forces are launching an investigation but no leads have yet come up."

barkeep49, Chief Tyrol, the Assassin, is dead. (HUMAN)

[st.cronin]

I was on Peg too, didn't see anything or anybody.

[The Jackal]

Ditto, I didn't see you either.

And that sucks about BK.

[PurdueBrad]

Alright, big news.

Path12 is a cylon.
I am the seer.

To verify, I can clear these people:
Day 1: Jackal is Thomas Zarek, former terrorist (see post 618 for my groundwork) and human. Verify Jackal?

Day 2: Pass is Colonial Warrior see posts 459 (warrior reference) and 486 (colonial reference).

Day 3: Path12- Cylon

My role is Elosha, the Preistess of Kobol.

Vote Path12

[RendeR]

I'm out till tomorrow afternoon folks, PM me any questions or problems and I'll get to them as soon as I can.

[PurdueBrad]

Oh yeah, and freakin' finally, I found me a wolf/cylon!

[The Jackal]

That's right, PB, I am Thomas.

This raises some interesting questions about heinz, too.

VOTE PATH12

[st.cronin]

Wish you had sat on that for a while, PB. I was leaning towards voting for path anyway today, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

[PurdueBrad]

Wish you had sat on that for a while, PB. I was leaning towards voting for path anyway today, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Cronin, I thought about it but losing Pass to verify me hurt because I wasn't sure Jackal would pick up the reference and verify PLUS I was laying it on a bit thick. I figure we'll take the one for one trade and see what we can do.

[The Jackal]

And I thought you were saying Thomas was a terrorist, I get it now. :D

I honestly don't know enough about the historic jackal, but my name is as much based on the wily nature of the creature as it is on bruce willis' performance in the movie that I imagine was based on the terrorist jackal.

[PurdueBrad]

Plus there has been a bit of an effort to vote for Jackal which I didn't want to see him go wrongly, although I guess I could've sprung it then. My fear was that he would be the only verifier I have and if I revealed to save him, that would look odd/bad.

[The Jackal]

Or wait, I'll admit I havent done any research on my character, was he a terrorist on the show or something? (I didnt do any research so as not to sway my voting because Ive never seen the show and didnt want to base theories off wiki).

[The Jackal]

Plus I plan on watching the show and want to go in fresh.

I think I might just be confusing myself, PB. By pick up on the hint did you just mean the fact that you said you trusted me?

[The Jackal]

I sort of agree with you cronin, but with only ten people left and only one cylon down I don't mind PB revealing at this point. I guess I'm biased though since he cleared me in the process.

[PurdueBrad]

I'm looking at Sonic Youth or Jeheinz for the next night. Based on voting trends only, rather than anything else.

[nfg22]

I can confirm I know Heinz is a wolf now. My night actions have pointed it so.

[nfg22]

VOTE PATH12

[st.cronin]

PB, why did you vote me yesterday? I still don't get that. Generally the seer votes for the person he plans to scan, if he hasn't revealed yet.

[The Jackal]

I'm looking at Sonic Youth or Jeheinz for the next night. Based on voting trends only, rather than anything else.

Heinz pops into question because path "cleared" him, though if they are both cylons that was risky.

SY is still not high on my list because of our shared commendation that night, but I guess a cylon could've done that.

[The Jackal]

I can confirm I know Heinz is a wolf now. My night actions have pointed it so.

Well then, we might have two candidates in a row.

[PurdueBrad]

nfg goes wolf on Heinz, I got wolf on Path12 which would knock out three. That may leave one plus, and I hate to say it, I'm still concerned about the attack on Narcizio by Claph as a potential conversion but I wouldn't think that the suicide bomber (brutal wolf) would've had conversion abilities either but if we have another wolf after this, we have to consider that as a possibility.

[st.cronin]

I can confirm I know Heinz is a wolf now. My night actions have pointed it so.

??? Expand on this?

[PurdueBrad]

PB, why did you vote me yesterday? I still don't get that. Generally the seer votes for the person he plans to scan, if he hasn't revealed yet.

Cronin, I thought honestly that the vote would carry on you so I went with Path12 as my main and you as my conditional if it went the other way. Plus, frankly and honestly, I still have not quite figured out the best way to play seer. It never really occured to me to scan the person I vote, I went with the two birds theory. I cast my vote one way to watch what happens and maybe lynch and then still research another character.

[st.cronin]

Cronin, I thought honestly that the vote would carry on you so I went with Path12 as my main and you as my conditional if it went the other way. Plus, frankly and honestly, I still have not quite figured out the best way to play seer. It never really occured to me to scan the person I vote, I went with the two birds theory. I cast my vote one way to watch what happens and maybe lynch and then still research another character.

Ok, I guess I get that.

[PurdueBrad]

??? Expand on this?

Good question, sorry, got caught up in the wave of good luck!

[PurdueBrad]

Ok, I guess I get that.

In all honesty and I hope this doesn't sound sarcastic, but I would actually like to discuss, after this game with a few people, exactly the best way to play the seer role.

[The Jackal]

Yeah nfg you might want to expand before Heinz gets a chance to react, he's pretty good at making stuff up as a wolf.

[st.cronin]

There are two cryptic claims that I would like to see expanded upon:

Narcizo claims nfg22 is human.
Nfg22 claims heinz is cylon.

Neither claim was backed by anything, as far as I can tell.

[PurdueBrad]

Cronin, I just saw the bump and greatly appreciated. It never dawned on me that there was a thread out there. Thanks a lot.

[st.cronin]

Cronin, I just saw the bump and greatly appreciated. It never dawned on me that there was a thread out there. Thanks a lot.

Would love to see that thread grow, I think it would be a great resource.

[PurdueBrad]

Would love to see that thread grow, I think it would be a great resource.

Agree and as I play more and become better, I would like to be able to add to it myself. I do kind of agree with Hoops' thoughts in there, about going gut early, especially paired with Alan's idea of trying to scan those that are likely to make it through the first couple days. I didn't really take potential longevity into account.

[PurdueBrad]

Alright, I'm out for the night I think (maybe one more late night stop by but that's all). Good luck into tomorrow!

[path12]

To verify, I can clear these people:
Day 1: Jackal is Thomas Zarek, former terrorist (see post 618 for my groundwork) and human. Verify Jackal?

Day 2: Pass is Colonial Warrior see posts 459 (warrior reference) and 486 (colonial reference).

Day 3: Path12- Cylon



What, I don't even get a name? Just Cylon? That is disrespect.

[Sonic Youth]

I'm looking at Sonic Youth or Jeheinz for the next night. Based on voting trends only, rather than anything else.And you'd be wasting your time with me, I'm human. Granted I messed up with my vote last night, but I think it revealed something that I wish you hadn't have, Path is what Narcizo was saying as his vote clinched it. And who I'm voting for tonight.

Vote path12.

[nfg22]

Basically I watched Heinz doing some suspicious activity in my night action. I dont want to elaborate further because it might affect what I want to do with a certain item I found.

[Narcizo]

Alright, big news.

Path12 is a cylon.
I am the seer.

To verify, I can clear these people:
Day 1: Jackal is Thomas Zarek, former terrorist (see post 618 for my groundwork) and human. Verify Jackal?

Day 2: Pass is Colonial Warrior see posts 459 (warrior reference) and 486 (colonial reference).

Day 3: Path12- Cylon

My role is Elosha, the Preistess of Kobol.

Vote Path12

:mad:

This is unbe-*expletitive deleted*-lieveable.

Well done team. How much evidence did you need to vote for path last night? Now we have had to have a seer reveal to show us what was probably the clearest case against anyone without a reveal coming out.

VOTE PATH

I think we have quite a lot to work with now. And hopefully the numbers should be really in our favour now.

[Narcizo]

There are two cryptic claims that I would like to see expanded upon:

Narcizo claims nfg22 is human.
Nfg22 claims heinz is cylon.

Neither claim was backed by anything, as far as I can tell.

Well. My claim is backed up by the fact that I'm clearly a villager (led the run against clap on day one, tried very hard to get a lynch on path yesterday, cleared by a known villager, that sort of thing) and the fact that I'm telling everyone that I saw a recent medical scan that showed that NFG was 100% human. Without quoting the PM I can't really be more detailed than that.

NFG's scan sounds a bit less equivocable unless he goes into a bit more detail. But I'm, obviously, inclined to believe him.

[Narcizo]

Heinz pops into question because path "cleared" him, though if they are both cylons that was risky.

SY is still not high on my list because of our shared commendation that night, but I guess a cylon could've done that.

I'd completely ignore the commendation - it would be a lovely way for a cylon to gain trust. I'm much more swayed by the fact that he switched from a no lynch to clap on day one. I just can't see a cylon doing that - it would be crazy to risk one of their own for such little gain when he could easily have left his vote on No Lynch.

[Sonic Youth]

UNVOTE PURDUEBRAD
VOTE GREYROOFOOWhy did you chose Greyroofoo?

[Narcizo]

Basically I watched Heinz doing some suspicious activity in my night action. I dont want to elaborate further because it might affect what I want to do with a certain item I found.

I believe you're a human (barring a conversion since my scan). But this does seem fairly vague and doesn't really tally with your expressed certainty that heinz is a cylon. I think it's important that you're positive that heinz is cylon. If you are certain then PB can look elsewhere with his scan tonight.

I'd be interested in hearing if heinz can shed any light on this as well. :) His comments along the lines that "path is a baddy I tolds ya! But I'm going to vote for someone else anyway" seemed very suspicious to me. Mitigating this is the fact that path vouched for heinz. I've a hard time seeing a cylon vouching for another cylon at that stage. Much more sensible to vouch for a human to a) buy some trust and b) implicate them should you show up as cylon. Of course there's the double-bluff argument etc etc.

[Narcizo]

Render - the first page player list and the game title could probably stand a bit of updating. :)

[jeheinz72]

Alright, big news.

Path12 is a cylon.
I am the seer.



Woot! Nice one PB!

[jeheinz72]

Vote path12

[jeheinz72]

This raises some interesting questions about heinz, too.


Questions?

Dude I was all over Path as a wolf, even posted and voted for him Day 2. Voted for him Day 3 as well until he was able to nail my actual gender. I figured at that point he was the Seer and scanned me due to voting for him Day 2.

The only reason I laid off on him was that he said my gender, which I hadn't mentioned. I figured while the wolves of course know I"m a villager, they wouldn't know my actual role and character (which apparently is/was incorrect). Hence why if you read back, I basically do a quick U-ey on him and completely lay off.

[jeheinz72]

I'm looking at Sonic Youth or Jeheinz for the next night. Based on voting trends only, rather than anything else.

I'd implore you to scan me, I'm not in any way a Cylon. Hopefully there is some method for you to still live to get said scan.

[jeheinz72]

I can confirm I know Heinz is a wolf now. My night actions have pointed it so.


Huh? I'd be interested in hearing more on this. I'm not a wolf. I'll divulge my role shortly, possibly that is what is making things strange.

[jeheinz72]

Heinz pops into question because path "cleared" him, though if they are both cylons that was risky.


Yeah, c'mon dude. I mean this isn't amateur hour. If Path and I were both wolves, why would I be on him THAT much (2 days worth), vote for him TWICE and then he lamely "clears" me. If we were both wolves that would be one of the least convincing "plays" imaginable.

[jeheinz72]

Basically I watched Heinz doing some suspicious activity in my night action. I dont want to elaborate further because it might affect what I want to do with a certain item I found.

I'll tell you exactly what you saw. I am basically, a Spy.

Last night my guess is you saw me tailing Sonic Youth as he repaired his Viper fighter and launched it to go onto patrol. I can also clear Sonic's character (though not his allegience).

Sonic -- your character name begins with an "A", does it not?

Here are my previous night actions:

Night 1: I chose Pass, his play just struck me as off and I knew he'd be active, so I tailed him. I followed as he went onto Cloud 9 (which he confirmed). I also saw he was wearing a Warrior uniform (hence no additional prodding by me)

Night 2: I chose Narcizo, since he was active and I wanted to know more. I saw Claphamsa attack him and Pass save Narcizo, with clap barely escaping. I know this isn't any "new" information, but it was already posted by the time I got in yesterday, not much I can do about that.

If it helps any, and I don't think it really does, I also have a Clue about Earth.

I'm open to any and all questions about my night activities, I'm not a Cylon and welcome/implore a scan. I'm a bit taken aback, since I was believing (still do, really) Narcizo's claim about nfg being a Human. I just don't know if nfg is mistaking my spying as a wolf-ish action or what the deal is.

[jeheinz72]

Point 1: I'd be interested in hearing if heinz can shed any light on this as well. :) His comments along the lines that "path is a baddy I tolds ya! But I'm going to vote for someone else anyway" seemed very suspicious to me.

Point 2: Mitigating this is the fact that path vouched for heinz. I've a hard time seeing a cylon vouching for another cylon at that stage. Much more sensible to vouch for a human to a) buy some trust and b) implicate them should you show up as cylon. Of course there's the double-bluff argument etc etc.

Septola.

I've separated this out into 2 "points"

On point one, let's clear this up right now. I didn't accuse and run like your quote makes it out. On Day 2 (post 272) I voted path. I stayed on him throughout Day Two going back and forth with he and Pass regarding how he saw both of us when we only saw each other on Cloud Nine. My vote stayed on him all day. On Day 3, I posted the list of the 3 people I suspected at the time #552), and even still went after path (556, 561 and a vote in 563). He then voted for me and said I'm not pure, but he also said I'm a "her", which correct. My assumption then was that only the Seer would know this, hence my "huh?" in reply to when he initially called me a "His". If he had stuck with that, I was going to reveal I'm a "her" and nail him to the wall. Then you see me unvote him once I see the "her" post. I then unvote and move on, not wanting to cast any more light onto who I thought was a probable Seer at the time. Is this not a pretty reasonable action/reaction?

On point two, yes there is the double-bluff, but c'mon would we really, in a game where there are likely AT MOST 4 wolves, with one already gone, really risk basically giving one more of up for the sake of semi-clearing the other? That's terrible risk/reward if I was a wolf, it'd be an idiotic ploy. It's obvious (to me at the least) that all this "pure heart" business was that I was the villager he thought he could get lynched easiest yesterday, so he made a move to do so.

[st.cronin]

I saw a recent medical scan that showed that NFG was 100% human.

This is all I was looking for, thanks.

[st.cronin]

Why did you chose Greyroofoo?

My vote, at the time, was on PurdueBrad. There were two votes on me. I was slightly worried about a late run on me, so I hopped on the leader simply as a survival play.

[Narcizo]

I'm tellin' ya, Path is a baddie. I may not vote for him again today, but I don't like what I'm seeing from him.

This is what I'm refering to, before all the his/hers business. This post is just batshit insane to me. If you think he's a cylon why even hesitate? Vote path there and then. Don't get all cute with "I may not vote for him again today".

When, after a length of time, you do vote for him, he conveniently comes out with information about you that gets you to back off. That whole episode strikes me as being really staged.

[st.cronin]

I can't make any sense of the path/heinz interaction, unless one of them is a cylon who doesn't know it?

[jeheinz72]

This is what I'm refering to, before all the his/hers business. This post is just batshit insane to me. If you think he's a cylon why even hesitate? Vote path there and then. Don't get all cute with "I may not vote for him again today".

When, after a length of time, you do vote for him, he conveniently comes out with information about you that gets you to back off. That whole episode strikes me as being really staged.

Length of time? It was ~35 minutes and all of 7 posts later.

The reason I waited was that I had the other candidates (those that voted NoLynch day one) to sift through and make sure. I'm not one that typically votes and unvotes a lot, and really only do it if really key information is presented (and from my POV, it was)

[jeheinz72]

I can't make any sense of the path/heinz interaction, unless one of them is a cylon who doesn't know it?

Well that would have to be me, but yeah, if I'm convertible I have no idea.

[mauchow]

vote path12

[mauchow]

I think the route is obvious today. Now, I don't think either of the two supposed scanners can be considered 'fools' considering that they've had different types of scans. That's my assumption, otherwise neither of them would've have revealed probably. Anyhow.

We need to protect first and foremost one of the two scanners because we need to keep them alive as long as possible. I say we kill Path tonight and try figuring things out with Heinz. I'm 75% believing him.

[st.cronin]

Well that would have to be me, but yeah, if I'm convertible I have no idea.

Really, I thought it would make more sense the other way around.

[Sonic Youth]

I'll tell you exactly what you saw. I am basically, a Spy.

Last night my guess is you saw me tailing Sonic Youth as he repaired his Viper fighter and launched it to go onto patrol. I can also clear Sonic's character (though not his allegience).

Sonic -- your character name begins with an "A", does it not?

Here are my previous night actions:

Night 1: I chose Pass, his play just struck me as off and I knew he'd be active, so I tailed him. I followed as he went onto Cloud 9 (which he confirmed). I also saw he was wearing a Warrior uniform (hence no additional prodding by me)

Night 2: I chose Narcizo, since he was active and I wanted to know more. I saw Claphamsa attack him and Pass save Narcizo, with clap barely escaping. I know this isn't any "new" information, but it was already posted by the time I got in yesterday, not much I can do about that.

If it helps any, and I don't think it really does, I also have a Clue about Earth.

I'm open to any and all questions about my night activities, I'm not a Cylon and welcome/implore a scan. I'm a bit taken aback, since I was believing (still do, really) Narcizo's claim about nfg being a Human. I just don't know if nfg is mistaking my spying as a wolf-ish action or what the deal is.
Ok here's the thing. There where 6 people I can account for where they were on the night with one dead. There was Jeheinz, nfg22 and I on Galactica; Barkeep, St.Cronin and The Jackal on Peg. This leaves Narcizo, Mauboy, Path12 and PurdueBrad for locations. I'm inclinded to think that Narcizo and Mauboy are Human, and Path12 to be a Cylon. That leaves me with only PurdueBrad as suspicious of those 4. Couple that with him being reaonably quiet, but not so to pick up suspicion that he's(I'm going off the Brad bit here) being too quiet, really hasn't given us much information about anyone or anything. I'll be happy for you to prove me wrong. St.Cronin in the same place as the last Cylon killing still hold me suspicious about him with nothing I can put my finger on, it's just a hunch. He says quite a few things that seem ok, but makes me go but...? all the time with other things he says.

I'd still like to know how Clap was saved on day 1 voting.

As to Jeheinz, my allegiance? My allegiance seem pretty obvious in this game.

[jeheinz72]

As to Jeheinz, my allegiance? My allegiance seem pretty obvious in this game.

Yeah, FTR I don't think you're a Cylon. But your character name does begin with an "A" does it not?

I'm asking because it'll help prove I am who I say I am.

[Sonic Youth]

It does.

My spelling sucked in my previous post.

[Narcizo]

Length of time? It was ~35 minutes and all of 7 posts later.

The reason I waited was that I had the other candidates (those that voted NoLynch day one) to sift through and make sure. I'm not one that typically votes and unvotes a lot, and really only do it if really key information is presented (and from my POV, it was)

And it's purely coincidental that you happen to make your decision at the same time Path happens to turn up and he happens to be able to offer you the information that gets you to switch your vote straight off him again?

Like I said. It looks very staged to me.

[jeheinz72]

And it's purely coincidental that you happen to make your decision at the same time Path happens to turn up and he happens to be able to offer you the information that gets you to switch your vote straight off him again?

Like I said. It looks very staged to me.

It's called email notification of replies. I have it set to on, since I'm at work and would rather do anything but actually work. :)

I don't know about the how/why Path knew I was a "her", but yeah, that was enough for me, since I thought that made him the seer.

I mean, go ahead, think it's staged, that's fine. But you're going to muddle up the game by going off on this tangent, since A) I"m a human and if you lynch me B) It'll only look bad for you and nfg, two people who I think are humans as well at this point.

But hey, it's in your court.

[st.cronin]

Ok here's the thing. There where 6 people I can account for where they were on the night with one dead. There was Jeheinz, nfg22 and I on Galactica; Barkeep, St.Cronin and The Jackal on Peg. This leaves Narcizo, Mauboy, Path12 and PurdueBrad for locations. I'm inclinded to think that Narcizo and Mauboy are Human, and Path12 to be a Cylon. That leaves me with only PurdueBrad as suspicious of those 4. Couple that with him being reaonably quiet, but not so to pick up suspicion that he's(I'm going off the Brad bit here) being too quiet, really hasn't given us much information about anyone or anything. I'll be happy for you to prove me wrong. St.Cronin in the same place as the last Cylon killing still hold me suspicious about him with nothing I can put my finger on, it's just a hunch. He says quite a few things that seem ok, but makes me go but...? all the time with other things he says.

I'd still like to know how Clap was saved on day 1 voting.

As to Jeheinz, my allegiance? My allegiance seem pretty obvious in this game.

The night I was on Pegasus, Barkeep was killed on Kobol. So, I don't know what you're talking about.

[Narcizo]

I'll tell you exactly what you saw. I am basically, a Spy.

*snip to avoid clogging the page with a post that has already been quoted recently*

I'm open to any and all questions about my night activities, I'm not a Cylon and welcome/implore a scan. I'm a bit taken aback, since I was believing (still do, really) Narcizo's claim about nfg being a Human. I just don't know if nfg is mistaking my spying as a wolf-ish action or what the deal is.

I missed this. But there's nothing here that clears you, or even offers much info we didn't already know. So, yeah, I'd be very happy to have you scanned as well.

[Narcizo]

I mean, go ahead, think it's staged, that's fine. But you're going to muddle up the game by going off on this tangent, since A) I"m a human and if you lynch me B) It'll only look bad for you and nfg, two people who I think are humans as well at this point.

But hey, it's in your court.

As we have the option I'd rather you were scanned but you would be my choice of lynch if people had listened to me yesterday and lynched path. Awaiting the result of the scan and with path getting lynched today I don't see any reason to pursue this.

[Narcizo]

Ok here's the thing. There where 6 people I can account for where they were on the night with one dead. There was Jeheinz, nfg22 and I on Galactica; Barkeep, St.Cronin and The Jackal on Peg. This leaves Narcizo, Mauboy, Path12 and PurdueBrad for locations. I'm inclinded to think that Narcizo and Mauboy are Human, and Path12 to be a Cylon. That leaves me with only PurdueBrad as suspicious of those 4. Couple that with him being reaonably quiet, but not so to pick up suspicion that he's(I'm going off the Brad bit here) being too quiet, really hasn't given us much information about anyone or anything. I'll be happy for you to prove me wrong. St.Cronin in the same place as the last Cylon killing still hold me suspicious about him with nothing I can put my finger on, it's just a hunch. He says quite a few things that seem ok, but makes me go but...? all the time with other things he says.


Is this an Australian thing, Sonic? Because I can't make head nor tail of what you're saying here? Try it again tomorrow when it's not the middle of the night for you.

[The Jackal]

That leaves me with only PurdueBrad as suspicious of those 4. Couple that with him being reaonably quiet, but not so to pick up suspicion that he's(I'm going off the Brad bit here) being too quiet, really hasn't given us much information about anyone or anything. I'll be happy for you to prove me wrong. .

I mean, he did just reveal and nail path as a cylon.. I'd say that's giving us some information..

[jeheinz72]

I missed this. But there's nothing here that clears you, or even offers much info we didn't already know. So, yeah, I'd be very happy to have you scanned as well.

I agree and admit that my spying hasn't really offered any new information. It would have, had I not been late the party yesterday (I would've been the one outing clap) but c'est la vie.

Also agreed that there isn't a lot of point of discussing me until after today, when PB can hopefully scan me and hopefully live to reveal the results. My money is he won't though, since if the Cylons kill him, they not only rid themselves of the Seer, they make me look guilty as sin and likely dodge themselves from being lynch candidates tomorrow. Plus we're at least on BG down with Pass dead, not sure if we have another out there.

[st.cronin]

After thinking about it, I actually believe heinz, mostly. I at least think that him and path are not likely to be on the same team.

[The Jackal]

So, NFG, how sanguine are you with Heinz' defense? It make sense in terms of what you detect with your role?

[jeheinz72]

I would like to know more about what NFG says he saw. Frankly, if it's anything other than what I've stated I did, then something smells rotten in Denmark (which would cause a complete 180 for me on what I think nfg's allegience is).

[The Jackal]

Hopefully I'll be doing some tasks on the computer at work today so I can keep up, but that hasn't been the case as of late so I may be incomunnicado during most of the day. But I'm not thinking much is going to change with the path run, so no biggie.

I wonder how many clues about Earth have been racked up. Sadly, I have none thus far.

[jeheinz72]

Hopefully I'll be doing some tasks on the computer at work today so I can keep up, but that hasn't been the case as of late so I may be incomunnicado during most of the day. But I'm not thinking much is going to change with the path run, so no biggie.

I wonder how many clues about Earth have been racked up. Sadly, I have none thus far.

I have one.

I don't get how we're supposed to use them though. Like I by myself will never get 12 (duh).

[PurdueBrad]

:mad:

This is unbe-*expletitive deleted*-lieveable.

Well done team. How much evidence did you need to vote for path last night? Now we have had to have a seer reveal to show us what was probably the clearest case against anyone without a reveal coming out.


That's my bad for revealing early Narcizo. I should've been more patient and just voted with the crowd today and hoped to push it. Again, my bad humans.

[PurdueBrad]

This is the day one vote:
5 - No Lynch JeHeinz(133), The Jackal(137), Mauboy1(143), St. Cronin(147), Claphamsa(221)
5 - Claphamsa Passacaglia(140), Narcizo(181), lathum(214), Sonic Youth(220), barkeep49(229)
1 - Greyroofoo nfg22(142)
1 - Passacaglia PyrdueBrad(151)
1 - nfg22 Greyroofoo(155)
1 - Sonic Youth Path12(168)



So far, we know this (now, I am basing my good numbers only on those verifiable, same with bad, anyone else is uncertain):

No lynch vote had 1 good, 1 bad, 3 uncertain (St. Cronin, Mauboy, Jeheinz)
Claphamsa vote had 3 good, 2 uncertain (Narcizo, Sonic Youth)
Greyroofoo had 1 uncertain
Passacaglia had 1 good (sorry, clearing myself here)
NFG22 had 1 good
Sonic Youth had 1 bad

Day two next...

[PurdueBrad]

Day two:
Final Vote Count:

Narcizo -- 3 -- PurdueBrad (298), Lathum (335), mauboy1 (339),
path12 -- 1 -- jeheinz72 (272)
Lathum -- 6 -- Narcizo (345), St. Cronin (361), The Jackal (417), Passacaglia (399), Sonic Youth (420), path12 (444)
PurdueBrad -- 1 -- Claphamsa (403)
Passacaglia -- 2 -- greyroofoo (404), barkeep49 (396)




Narcizo had 2 good, 1 uncertain (mauboy1)
Path12 had 1 uncertain (jeheinz)
Lathum had 2 good, 1 bad, 3 uncertain (St. Cronin, Narcizo, Sonic Youth)
PurdueBrad had 1 bad
Passacaglia had 2 good

[PurdueBrad]

Day three:

Deadlines come and Deadlines go, this one...went, a few minutes ago....

Final Vote Count:

2 - st cronin - Purdue (513), Jeheinz(569)
1 - Jackal - Grey (516)
2 - Path - Narcizo (542), nfg22(605)
4 - greyroofoo - Sonic (549), mauboy1(625), path12(629), St. Cronin(639)



St. Cronin had 1 good, 1 uncertain (jeheinz)
Jackal had 1 good
Path 12 had 2 uncertain (Narcizo, nfg22)
Greyroofoo had 1 bad, 3 uncertain (Sonic, mauboy1, St. Cronin)

Looking at the trends, I'm willing to really look at the three uncertains on Greyroofoo this night.

[PurdueBrad]

St. Cronin has gone no lynch, Lathum in about the middle of the voting, and Greyroofoo as the last voter. The last vote is a bit suspect to me.

Sonic has voted Claphamsa fairly late on day one, Lathum late on day two, and greyroofoo early on day three.

Mauboy1 has voted no lynch early, Narcizo early, and greyroofoo a bit late.

With Path12 up for a vote last night, I think there could have been a pile on effort to clear him. This could be even more suspicious if St. Cronin was a baddie as well, we could have had two up as both he and Path jumped on greyroofoo to put him away and save themselves.

So right now, I guess my attention has shifted a bit to St. Cronin. Do we have anybody that has spied/interacted with him or seen him at night?

[st.cronin]

St. Cronin has gone no lynch, Lathum in about the middle of the voting, and Greyroofoo as the last voter. The last vote is a bit suspect to me.

As I explained, it was a self-defense vote. I was in second place when I placed that vote.

I'm fine with being scanned, I don't think anybody has seen me, although its possible. To recap:

Night 1, I attempted to board a Viper, but somebody got there first.
Night 2, I was in the Raptor fighting the Cylons.
Night 3, I was on Pegasus.

[PurdueBrad]

Also looking at the votes, IF St. Cronin were a Cylon, you can pair him with another certain Cylon each night voting-wise, nobody else has this trend:

Day 1: voted with Claphamsa as the last two on no lynch, helping to force the tie and save Clap

Day 2: voted with Path12 on Lathum

Day 3: voted with Path12 again as the last two on Greyroofoo as a possible save to Lathum?

I guess what I'm saying is, if I don't make it through the night, look at St. Cronin tomorrow. I'm starting to think we might be human-human with JEHeinz and Sonic Youth.

BTW, how many dolas is this as I continue to talk to myself?!

[jeheinz72]

Well I know I'm a human.
I'm pretty sure PB, Jackal, nfg and Narcizo are humans

So as far as tomorrow goes, if I had to vote now, leaning towards Cronin sounds about right.

[PurdueBrad]

As I explained, it was a self-defense vote. I was in second place when I placed that vote.

I'm fine with being scanned, I don't think anybody has seen me, although its possible. To recap:

Night 1, I attempted to board a Viper, but somebody got there first.
Night 2, I was in the Raptor fighting the Cylons.
Night 3, I was on Pegasus.

I know it is a self-defense vote, either as a good guy to save yourself or a baddie to save another. And I guess I should be fair here, I'm not completely trying to lay out a case against you (although I guess it looks like it), I'm wanting us to go beyong the automatic assumption that it is Heinz or Sonic Youth.

NFG has got to reveal more info about what he saw IMHO before he's cleared and before we can really look at JEHeinz. I would say, in order for me right now, I'm looking at Heinz then probably you in all honesty. Although the Heinz movement loses steam without some more info from NFG.

[PurdueBrad]

By my read, here are the clears we've seen:

I've cleared Jackal
Narcizo has cleared NFG after being cleared by Pass as well

That means I will go with a COT of Jackal, Narcizo, and NFG.

If I'm missing a clear, throw it out there, I'll add to this if I find more as I re-read.

[st.cronin]

I know it is a self-defense vote, either as a good guy to save yourself or a baddie to save another. And I guess I should be fair here, I'm not completely trying to lay out a case against you (although I guess it looks like it), I'm wanting us to go beyong the automatic assumption that it is Heinz or Sonic Youth.

NFG has got to reveal more info about what he saw IMHO before he's cleared and before we can really look at JEHeinz. I would say, in order for me right now, I'm looking at Heinz then probably you in all honesty. Although the Heinz movement loses steam without some more info from NFG.

My original vote was even worse, a vote for you.

I know I'm a human, but I'm likely voting mauboy tomorrow. Remember, nfg has been cleared by Narcizo. Granted, Narc isn't in the innermost circle of trust, but I have to think that counts for something.

I also think its at least possible that path either doesn't know he's a cylon, or is a rogue cylon who doesn't know who else is a cylon. One of those I think largely clears heinz, the other pretty much damns him.

[st.cronin]

VOTE PATH12

[jeheinz72]

I'm looking at Heinz then probably you in all honesty. Although the Heinz movement loses steam without some more info from NFG.

Well here's to hoping you'll just scan me tonight to clear that up.

[mauchow]

If he scans you Heinz you'll come up as a dark scan since you're likely a dark scan because you're a spy(since you said you were, right?).

There is no point in scanning Heinz again, I believe that he's good and tonight's lynch will mostly confirm that for me. He's been on Path for a few days now and I only wish that I warmed up to his idea a little more.

Anyhow, my Wolf Radar is pinging Path and Cronin big time and I know I'm not the only one.

Cronin is already basing his defense which should tell you a lot. I'm not 100% on anything tomorrow yet but that seems to be the way the wind is blowing at the moment.

[jeheinz72]

If he scans you Heinz you'll come up as a dark scan since you're likely a dark scan because you're a spy(since you said you were, right?).



I'm a spy that is a Human. To my knowledge, I'll scan as such!

[st.cronin]

What is a "dark scan"?

[mauchow]

I suppose there won't be a dark aura/light aura thing?

Well then, do what you want as far as scanning goes, PB. I tend to believe Heinz here and give him the benefit of the doubt. I'd rather him scan someone else and hope to hit a wolf. He PB doesn't hit a wolf with his scan then we can continue to think of something.. am I the only one that is thinking this way right now?

[jeheinz72]

I suppose there won't be a dark aura/light aura thing?

Well then, do what you want as far as scanning goes, PB. I tend to believe Heinz here and give him the benefit of the doubt. I'd rather him scan someone else and hope to hit a wolf. He PB doesn't hit a wolf with his scan then we can continue to think of something.. am I the only one that is thinking this way right now?

I think PB gets back the players allegience and character name

[mauchow]

There ya go. Again, I stand by what I said, I don't think he should scan you and try figuring out a different plan of attack right now.

[jeheinz72]

There ya go. Again, I stand by what I said, I don't think he should scan you and try figuring out a different plan of attack right now.

Well, for me if the options are scan me or lynch me tomorrow, which some seem pretty hell bent on, excuse me if I don't prefer the former. ;)

[st.cronin]

I am curious about Narcizo clearing nfg - he said he "saw evidence". Clearly there's more than one way to scan a cylon, right?

[Narcizo]

That's my bad for revealing early Narcizo. I should've been more patient and just voted with the crowd today and hoped to push it. Again, my bad humans.

No, I don't hold you responsible for the reveal. I wouldn't be so sure that we would have managed to get our act together enough to lynch path today without the reveal anyway.

I wouldn't be opposed to a scan of cronin, although I do favour a look at heinz.

[The Jackal]

I don't think he can go wrong scanning either of them. I think it's very unlikely that both of them are humans.

[RendeR]

UPDATE: Today I am dealing with a family emergency, I simply cannot update the game today so the deadline for tonight is being moved to Friday night at 9pm

Sorry for the inconvenience, real Life must come first.

[PurdueBrad]

RendeR, no problem, I completely understand. I hope all turns out okay.

[jeheinz72]

Handle your business RendeR