Werewolf LXXXVIII: Game Thread

[RealDeal]

VOTE KWHIT

WORK WINDOWS


i will be faking the work for spiritual health

[KWhit]

Bah.

[RendeR]

Oh shit I forgot to vote =(



Sorry!

Was busy with things here at work and some other stuff. I should have picked something earlier.

[The Jackal]

Oh, I'm not a demon, just taking a different approach to this game. It is always disconcerting to see less talk, but I'm not overly worried.

[Danny]

So Kwhit doesn't bother to submit any action? If you were a villager, you could have helped us with some work.

[Danny]

BTW, there actually was evidence of PF's power. BK posted about it the night he changed the damage. PF just never revealed anything about it. I think we nailed ourselves a demon here, but we'll see I guess.

[Danny]

Wish Render would have gotten in some work though! Grrr

[Barkeep49]

Another quiet day, another easy lynch. You hammer down on KWhit and discover yet another villager.

Hammer that nail. Hammer that nail. Hammer that nail. For some the monotony might be too much. For you it is liberating. Since you are so good at your job, you may choose one area you have worked on that day to construct in an extra sturdy way. If the demons attack that area during the following night cycle they will do half damage.

Walls - Repaired
Roof - Repaired
Windows - 2 shifts
Artwork - 2 shifts
Carpentry - Repaired

KWhit – Tyrith (983), Danny (985), Real (1001)

Carpentry – Tyrith (977),
Windows – Danny (985), Render (988), CR (999), Real (1001)
Roof – Jackal (989), DT (992), JE (997), JE (997), Jackal (998)
Art – DT (992), CR (999)

A gloom sets over the town in the morning. The birds aren't singing. When you find Tyrith's body, a body that has been made holy and pure you know that a most powerful angel has died.

As Gabriel you could have chosen any of the many people in this community to be your corporal host. You choose the hermit since you felt it would be easy to blend-in. Of course the hermit’s ability to avoid lynching for a day by disappearing hardly fits with-in your plan and so it is a power you cannot use.

(redacted)

[Chief Rum]

For the love of crap... :(

Not a good day/night for us.

And some great analysis by myself. :rolleyes: 0 for 2 now. Might as well lynch myself at this point.

I am only partially cheered that the one thing I figured out was that Tyrith was Gabriel, but that was the one bit of information I couldn't share.

[Chief Rum]

Ok, I have to run, as it is a two-job day.

Yesterday was a bad day, but it was a bad choice for the demons to off Tyrith instead of Render, JE and RealDeal, who remain cleared, unless I am missing something. And RD says we have another villager.

The remaining uncleared (from everyone's perspective, not my own) are The Jackal, myself, Danny, jeheiz and DT, I believe. Someone correct me if I am wrong. So there's an angel and two demons in that group. I am none of them myself. I am also pretty sure who the two demons are, but that's because I amk certain of my own allegiance, which none of the rest of you has any proof of. So I guess I will leave that up to you.

Instead, I will contribute my work to the cathedral, and put my fate at the feet of the village.

I highly recommend looking at friends of the old clap, if anyone's listening to me anymore.

VOTE ROOF
VOTE ROOF

That should finish the roof.

[Chief Rum]

The above line about RD should be that "RD says we have another angel".

[jeheinz72]

Ugh. Sorry folks. Life came up yesterday afternoon in a hurry and I didn't even think about the game again until this morning.

Looks like while I didn't miss much conversation, we had a poor day.

[jeheinz72]

CR, I see you're still here. Any particular reason I shouldn't just stick with my initial gut from way back and vote for you? I mean you've seemed fishy from the outset (to me) and now have led us down a logical path which resulted in 2 bad lynches.

Ditto that to Danny who seemed to want to espouse the "Let's lynch PF and then if not CR". So if you are actually a villager, I would think you'd take great exception to his plan to lock in back-to-back villager lynches.

[RealDeal]

Second straight day we lynch a villager who had a power and didn't feel like telling anyone when they were up for a lynch.

Can someone explain this to me? Are people just giving so little a shit about this game that they don't care to save themselves when they are up for lynch?

[jeheinz72]

Evidently RD. I mean yeah, these powers may not be lynch-saving, but I'd think they'd at least be stated.

[RealDeal]

The caliber and intensity of these WW games seems lower than last when I played. Two straight villagers who basically just shrug their shoulders when they're up for a lynch makes me sad.

[Danny]

CR, I see you're still here. Any particular reason I shouldn't just stick with my initial gut from way back and vote for you? I mean you've seemed fishy from the outset (to me) and now have led us down a logical path which resulted in 2 bad lynches.

Ditto that to Danny who seemed to want to espouse the "Let's lynch PF and then if not CR". So if you are actually a villager, I would think you'd take great exception to his plan to lock in back-to-back villager lynches.

At least we were trying to do something. Others were of no help and I took my best shot at who I thought was a demon. You're barking up the wrong tree.

I am the converted angel. Real Deal can confirm this. I have no powers and there really is no advantage in the demons lynching me.

[Danny]

The caliber and intensity of these WW games seems lower than last when I played. Two straight villagers who basically just shrug their shoulders when they're up for a lynch makes me sad.

Indeed, Kwhit didn't even bother doing work or anything. It's kind of hard to point the finger at CR (who I don't know his allegiance), Tyrith or myself when we were the only non cleared to actually be doing much of anything.

[Danny]

I'm not convinced Render/Jonathan are good anymore. I find it very surprising that both are still alive and when they came out day two our seer was already dead. I'm not saying we should lynch them, but I know how dangerous it is to be working on a false assumption all game.

[RealDeal]

Yes, Danny is the new angel.

[Danny]

BTW, this could be do or die today. 8 players. 2 angels, 2 demons and 4 villagers. A villager lynch and a night kill and it's game over? I think we need to finish the cathedral every day that remains and perhaps win the game that way.

[Danny]

I have to go, but

Roof - 2 Shifts
Windows - 2 shifts
Artwork - 3 shifts
Carpentry - 2 shifts

CR worked two on roof, we have 7 players left. I think the following work breakdown maximizes are chances.

Roof CR two units. If he doesn't finish his work, we know his a demon.

Artwork I would like to see Render put 1 point and Jonathan 2 points and no one else work.

I can put two points into the windows guaranteeing they are done. Then everyone else should be putting points into carpentry.

[jeheinz72]

At least we were trying to do something. Others were of no help and I took my best shot at who I thought was a demon. You're barking up the wrong tree.

I am the converted angel. Real Deal can confirm this. I have no powers and there really is no advantage in the demons lynching me.

Hey, I'm trying to (though yesterday was poor).

I didn't really need you to confirm, but that's good it whittles our pool some more.

I'm pretty sure I'm voting CR today

[Danny]

Hey, I'm trying to (though yesterday was poor).

I didn't really need you to confirm, but that's good it whittles our pool some more.

I'm pretty sure I'm voting CR today

There's not much risk, I can't do anything and count as an angel, so killing would be a bad demon play.

I really think we should not lynch anyone today and go with the working strategy.

CR x2 on Roof
Danny x 2 on Windows
Jonathan x2 and Render x1 on Artwork
Everyone else on carpentry

[Danny]

A bad lynch is really bad, so this forces either us to be done with our work or a demon to out themselves. If Roof is unfinished we know CR is bad. If Artwork is not finished we know both Jon and Render are bad. And then there is enough people on Carpentry where it doesn't matter if demons fake there.

[Danny]

It prolongs the game which can be good or bad. Seems like most might not be that into the game anyway, but I think it's our best strategy at this point.

[RendeR]

Wish Render would have gotten in some work though! Grrr


I worked on the windows. Grrr yourself. I just didn't vote and that turned out not to matter as I was going with the majority on kwhit anyway.


Sorry K.

[Danny]

I'm leaving for work will be on my normal time. I'm not trying to be bossy with this, but I think we need a cohesive strategy because of the voting/work dynamic. Again, I think what I posted is our strongest play to put the pressure back on the demons. Anyone pushing for a lynch when that could be end game should be very suspicious.

[RendeR]

I'm not convinced Render/Jonathan are good anymore. I find it very surprising that both are still alive and when they came out day two our seer was already dead. I'm not saying we should lynch them, but I know how dangerous it is to be working on a false assumption all game.


We've been working on teh false assumption that CR is good for days now. He lept into the fray when the meltdown happened on Firday and went the way of the "helpful villager" and we all bought in because of avoiding more conflict.

I know Jon is not an angel or a demon, jon knows I am not an angel or a demon. If we accept then that Realdeal indeed converted over Danny thats 4 good players leaving 4 unknowns. CR has played the hiding in plain site role to the hilt IMO. this second bad lynch based more or less on his analysis tells me its time to verify that.

Dt is still aquestion mark as well. Anyone else notice he hasn't used his power since he stated that Telle was lying? That leaves me with 2 possible answers. A- He had a one time power and used it or B- he's been a demon all along and knew she was lying once he picked up on the fact that she was the cultist.

VOTE CHIEF RUM
VOTE CHIEF RUM

[RendeR]

I'm leaving for work will be on my normal time. I'm not trying to be bossy with this, but I think we need a cohesive strategy because of the voting/work dynamic. Again, I think what I posted is our strongest play to put the pressure back on the demons. Anyone pushing for a lynch when that could be end game should be very suspicious.


If you still think I'm bad after all the BS that went down in this game then you're not any better at this than I was for following the wrong logic path onthe telle situation. We cannot win this game if we don't lynch someone, CR is out best target based on the evidence we have.

[Tyrith]

*bleeds on the floor*

[RealDeal]

I'm fine with lynching CR tonight. Been very hard to get a read lately, particularly with the last two lynched villagers, who didn't tell us their role before the lynch. Without any info to work off of, we're just guessing.

[DaddyTorgo]

RendeR - I have one use of my power left. It was a two-time power. I've been sitting on the other use of the power waiting for a time when I thought it made sense to use it.

As for me being quiet - I haven't been around to post much during the days because my work ethic has been getting the better of my WW-play. It's not related to my being a wolf or a villager, it just rears its ugly head sometimes. I feel guilty if I'm not actually working.

[DaddyTorgo]

figured it'd be useful if we thought we nabbed a demon or something. would have used it to check on the angels but they have all backed each other up.

i've thought about using it on you or JE actually, because what Danny said did cross my mind in my most paranoid moments. but i haven't.

[RendeR]

I wonder...you can use that power to verify the truth on a single statement yes?

If I make a statement encompassing both Jon and I then you could verify us both?

that would give us a solid CoT of 4 and anyone who isn't willing to go along sort of shows themselves, yes?

[The Jackal]

It is quite discouraging that people weren't compelled to reveal as much as they could, perhaps they thought enough people weren't around.. but I don't think that's the case.

I'm going to hold off committing to an action for now. Problem with the people after CR is that it doesn't inflate the discussion much because he isn't around to answer..

But I'm not seeing many heated arguments against anyone else that could potentially be on the chopping block.

[The Jackal]

I'm pretty sure I'm on board with lynching CR. I'll save my actions until later in case something useful pops up.. but I'll probably work carpentry.

[The Jackal]

If we do end up lynching him though, we will need someone to work on the roof.

[jeheinz72]

I thought the lynchee's work actions stuck?

Or are you saying if we lynch him, he's bad and he faked the work?

[jeheinz72]

VOTE CHIEF RUM
WORK CARPENTRY

[jeheinz72]

Well, I'm outta here, talk to ya tomorrow folks.

[Danny]

My no lynch strategy is gone obviously. Render, I feel you are likely good and have all game, but with two bad lynches in a row, you do start to get a little paranoid.

As for CR, I knew that he found out Tyrith was Gabriel because I found out that night as well. And then when I was converted the following day it backed that up. I don't know if the fact he knew that and then sat on not killing him for a day makes him more or less likely to be a wolf.

DT, I definitely think we should use your power sometime soon. Personally, I think every player should post the following. I am not a demon. And then you can choose who you want to find out about.

[Danny]

I do wonder why you wouldn't have used your 2nd ability sooner though. Either way now that the demons know you have it, you should definitely use it today.

[Danny]

I thought the lynchee's work actions stuck?

Or are you saying if we lynch him, he's bad and he faked the work?

They do stick. It's possible he simply worked knowing he would be lynched and plans to fake the work.

[Danny]

I think tonight is end game if we make the wrong lynch. 2 angels, 2 demons and 4 villagers means we're sunk with a villager lynch and a villager night kill.

We have to keep this in mind when looking at anyone who is pushing really strong to lynch someone.

[Danny]

Hoops, just give me the first letter to the names of the two remaining wolves.

[RendeR]

LOL

[Danny]

For me the three most likely wolves are CR, Jeheinz and DT. For some reason I tend to not suspect The Jackal. I think DT's power doesn't mean anything towards being a demon or not. A demon could easily have that power for their player to try and snuff out angels.

[Barkeep49]

I really think we should not lynch anyone today and go with the working strategy.
I was asked at the beginning of the game. I think I've said it since then (though it might only have been in PMs). There will be a lynch. Trying to come up with a strategy where there is no lynch simply isn't viable in this game.

[Danny]

I was asked at the beginning of the game. I think I've said it since then (though it might only have been in PMs). There will be a lynch. Trying to come up with a strategy where there is no lynch simply isn't viable in this game.

We could always lynch the dead body of Packerfanatic for his booze. We might need it the way were going.

[Barkeep49]

We could always lynch the dead body of Packerfanatic for his booze. We might need it the way were going.
:)

[Danny]

Ok, I have to run, as it is a two-job day.

Yesterday was a bad day, but it was a bad choice for the demons to off Tyrith instead of Render, JE and RealDeal, who remain cleared, unless I am missing something. And RD says we have another villager.

The remaining uncleared (from everyone's perspective, not my own) are The Jackal, myself, Danny, jeheiz and DT, I believe. Someone correct me if I am wrong. So there's an angel and two demons in that group. I am none of them myself. I am also pretty sure who the two demons are, but that's because I amk certain of my own allegiance, which none of the rest of you has any proof of. So I guess I will leave that up to you.

Instead, I will contribute my work to the cathedral, and put my fate at the feet of the village.

I highly recommend looking at friends of the old clap, if anyone's listening to me anymore.

VOTE ROOF
VOTE ROOF

That should finish the roof.

In here CR says he is pretty certain who the two demons are, but doesn't say any names, this is odd.

[RendeR]

We're having huge internet issues at work, if I don't make it back I'll check up when I get home later tonight.

[DaddyTorgo]

My no lynch strategy is gone obviously. Render, I feel you are likely good and have all game, but with two bad lynches in a row, you do start to get a little paranoid.

As for CR, I knew that he found out Tyrith was Gabriel because I found out that night as well. And then when I was converted the following day it backed that up. I don't know if the fact he knew that and then sat on not killing him for a day makes him more or less likely to be a wolf.

DT, I definitely think we should use your power sometime soon. Personally, I think every player should post the following. I am not a demon. And then you can choose who you want to find out about.


still reading and catching up, but i thought i explained this to render earlier - it doesn't work that way. it can't be a "coerced statement" (the judgement of what that entails is up to BK)

[Jonathan Ezarik]

This morning the damage is more spread out than what you saw yesterday, and is somewhat substantial. You're so close you can taste it, but you're not quite there yet.

Walls - Repaired
Roof - 6 Shifts
Windows - 5 shifts
Artwork - 4 shifts
Carpentry - 3 shifts


Another quiet day, another easy lynch. You hammer down on KWhit and discover yet another villager.



Walls - Repaired
Roof - 2 Shifts
Windows - 2 shifts
Artwork - 3 shifts
Carpentry - 2 shifts

KWhit – Tyrith (983), Danny (985), Real (1001)

Carpentry – Tyrith (977),
Windows – Danny (985), Render (988), CR (999), Real (1001)
Roof – Jackal (989), DT (992), JE (997), JE (997), Jackal (998)
Art – DT (992), CR (999)

Food for thought:

Looks like either DT or CR faked their work on the artwork yesterday. There was also a fake on the roof.

[DaddyTorgo]

so i could take a look back at the posts of say jackel or jeheinz and see if i can find something to truth-test.

[Danny]

Food for thought:

Looks like either DT or CR faked their work on the artwork yesterday. There was also a fake on the roof.

This is great stuff

[Danny]

Assuming JE and Render are good, this means there are two demons out of CR, Jackal and DT unless DT is a demon and faked one unit each the roof and artwork.

[Danny]

It also means that if DT is good then both CR and the Jackal must be bad. I almost buy it as more likely that DT faked one unit on each location instead of CR faking one on Art and then Jackal faking one on Roof.

[The Jackal]

If what you're saying is true Danny then CR and DT are our last two demons. Does anyone have a count on what people have committed to today and what's left?

[Jonathan Ezarik]

It also means that if DT is good then both CR and the Jackal must be bad. I almost buy it as more likely that DT faked one unit on each location instead of CR faking one on Art and then Jackal faking one on Roof.

The problem I have with CR is that he states he has a role with no ability at all. Now, I don't have any cool thing that allows me to do anything at night or learn anything new, but I'm not a completely vanilla villager either. At the start of the game I knew that Render was good and that I could trust him. And from what I've seen in everyone that's been killed thus far, there are no completely vanilla villagers. So for CR to claim that he is vanilla strikes me as extremely odd.

[Danny]

That is true, even in the beginning of the game, I was told I could sense angels and might have more to my mission here, but that I do not know quite what any of that meant.

[DaddyTorgo]

I'm not a demon. I honestly think i'm being setup by CR and Jackal because they realize they're down to an endgame type scenario and they need to setup a villager for a lynch once we've got rid of CR in order to try to get Jackal to his endgame-play

If I was a demon why would I have outed the cultist? Because I knew she wasn't an angel I was pretty damn sure she was a demon or the cultist and I outed her straight-away as soon as I saw that I needed to.

There's also the possibility that Jackal is good and that our other last demon didn't fake their work yesterday guys.

[The Jackal]

Roof 2/2 (Chief Rum x2 1010)
Windows 0/2
Artwork 0/3
Carpentry 1/2 (heinz 1040)

CR 3 (Render x2 1029, heinz 1040)

Yet to act: DT, RD, JE, Danny, Jackal

that look right?

[Jonathan Ezarik]

If I was a demon why would I have outed the cultist? Because I knew she wasn't an angel I was pretty damn sure she was a demon or the cultist and I outed her straight-away as soon as I saw that I needed to.

Actually, you made it clear that you weren't sure if Telle was an angel or not, only that she was lying about being Gabriel. Big difference there.

[hoopsguy]

Hoops, just give me the first letter to the names of the two remaining wolves.

Would you believe me if I gave you one? I would love to do this if it was at all in the spirit of the rules.

[DaddyTorgo]

Actually, you made it clear that you weren't sure if Telle was an angel or not, only that she was lying about being Gabriel. Big difference there.

true - and i was very clear to make that point.

but the odds were better that she was demon/cultist than that she was an angel.

true it wasn't a huge difference, but those were the odds

[Danny]

I'm not a demon. I honestly think i'm being setup by CR and Jackal because they realize they're down to an endgame type scenario and they need to setup a villager for a lynch once we've got rid of CR in order to try to get Jackal to his endgame-play

If I was a demon why would I have outed the cultist? Because I knew she wasn't an angel I was pretty damn sure she was a demon or the cultist and I outed her straight-away as soon as I saw that I needed to.

There's also the possibility that Jackal is good and that our other last demon didn't fake their work yesterday guys.

Last demon didn't fake their work? This is impossible unless you are a demon. CR only worked on the artwork and couldn't have faked the carpentry. It's basically either you or CR/Jackal once again assuming Render/Jonathan is good which we have to do.

[Danny]

But is possible they are setting you up DT. We're basically at end game now. One bad lynch and we're done assuming the demons go after villagers.

[DaddyTorgo]

no danny - the demon that isn't CR - if they didn't fake it could be heinze also

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm totally being setup. damn this game.

[Danny]

How could it be Heinze? If you are not a demon, then two demons faked yesterday. CR and the Jackal.

[Danny]

I would like to see you find a statement from the jackal if you can DT.

[DaddyTorgo]

i dunno - you're confusing me. i had a thought that somehow it could be hineze...not sure how i got to that conclusion. maybe i'm wrong.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'll find a statement from the jackel tonight that i can truth-test to get something out of it (maybe his initial check-in if he did one?).

[Danny]

I am also now 100% convinced Render and Jonathan are good. Either DT or CR must be a wolf, which means both Render/Jon can't be lying.

RealDeal, Danny, Jonathan, Render are good.

Two wolves out Jackal, DT, Jeheinz and CR. I doubt Jeheinz is a wolf at this point. It's either CR/Jackal or DT/ CR, Jackal or Heinze. I do find it odd that DT keeps talking about CR setting him up, but seems more inclined to want to vote for Jackal and even possible Jeheinze. Perhaps the wolves are DT/CR?

[DaddyTorgo]

I'll vote for CR danny - I just would rather work on the cathedral if it doesn't need the votes. and i'm not more inclined to vote for the J's than I am for CR.

[Danny]

It is nice that the wolves finally gave us a bone to work with here :)

[Danny]

FWIW, I find it more likely you are telling the truth DT. I think since you were under the radar a bit compared to others it would have been foolish for you two fake two unites of work in two different places.

[DaddyTorgo]

very nice indeed!

of course it's sort of down to that point where the bones start to stick out of the skin of the starving corpse I guess (nice metaphor hmm?)

[Danny]

I'm going to look at previous days and see if there is any other faked work which can help us here.

[Danny]

Day 4

Walls - Repaired
Roof - 6 shifts
Windows - 7 shifts
Artwork - 12 shifts
Carpentry - Repaired
__________________


Walls - Repaired
Roof - Reapired
Windows - 5 shifts
Artwork - 4 shifts
Carpentry - Repaired

Packer – CR (879), CR (879), KWhit (932), Render (933), DT (934), DT (934)
Chief – Packer (912), Packer (912), JH (915)

Roof – JH (907), Jackal (920), Jackal (920), Tyrith (Roof), Tyrith (Roof), JE (943), JE (943), Danny (944)
Walls – Real (914), Real (914), Real (914)
Windows – Kwhit (932), Danny (944)

Day 4 there were no obvious fakes, but 8 units of work were attempted on the Roof, only 6 were needed. Other than Jackal all other workers on the roof are confirmed good. It's very possible Jackal fakes both or one units of work.

[Danny]

Day 3 tells us nothing.

[Danny]

Day 2

Walls - 2 shifts
Roof - 7 shifts
Windows - 7 shifts
Artwork - 4 shifts
Carpentry - 8 shifts

RealDeal - DaddyTorgo (380), PackerFanatic (397), Telle (403), Telle (403), jeheinze (437), Jonathan (536)
Telle - Danny (442), RealDeal (458), RealDeal (458), RealDeal (458), hoops (495), KWhit (521), Purdue (527), Purdue (527), Alan (538), Alan (538), Render (543)


Walls - Pass(282)
Carpentry - Danny(443), Packer(339), Tyrith(419), Tyrith(419), jackal (469), KWHit (521), Jonathan (564), CR (567)
artwork - Hoops(315), Jackal(318), Daddy T (512), Render (543), CR (567)
Roof – Pass

Walls - 1 shift
Roof - 7 shifts
Windows - 7 shifts
Artwork - Repaired
Carpentry - Repaired

No one faked on the walls, or carpentry, with one extra point being spent on the artwork one of which is a confirmed demon. Considering DT, CR and Jackal are both scattered throughout the artwork/carpentry this tells us nothing. What I do notice is that both CR and Jackal doubled on work, not borthering to get caught up in the realdeal/Telle vote.

[Danny]

Actually lets look at voting from day 3 again.

PF – Jackal (665), Pass (724), Pass (724), KWhit (769), Hoops (810)
Pass – Jackal (665), Packer (691), Render (773)
Heinz – CR (770), CR (770), DT (779)
Hoops – Heniz (687), Danny (729), Danny (729), JE (787), JE (787), DT (779), Alan (799), Alan (799), Real (800), Real (800)

Both CR and Jackal kept their votes off of Hoops and DT and Heinze both put a vote on him giving less possibility to Alan needing to vote on Hoops which the wolves wanted.

[Danny]

I'd say we probably found our wolves in Chief Rum and The Jackal.

[DaddyTorgo]

*note to self* watch out for danny when i'm a wolf - he's good at this

looks like nice work man

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Actually lets look at voting from day 3 again.

PF – Jackal (665), Pass (724), Pass (724), KWhit (769), Hoops (810)
Pass – Jackal (665), Packer (691), Render (773)
Heinz – CR (770), CR (770), DT (779)
Hoops – Heniz (687), Danny (729), Danny (729), JE (787), JE (787), DT (779), Alan (799), Alan (799), Real (800), Real (800)

Both CR and Jackal kept their votes off of Hoops and DT and Heinze both put a vote on him giving less possibility to Alan needing to vote on Hoops which the wolves wanted.

I just read back through that day looking for some kind of sign, and I find it really interesting that at the time CR placed his votes on heinz the only other vote there was by hoops. And his two votes made it a three way tie between hoops, PF, and heinz. All this after Alan and RealDeal came out in support of lynching hoops.

Needless to say, I completely agree with lynching CR today. And since it looks like we already have enough votes, I'm going to do some work today.

WORK ON ROOF

WORK ON ROOF

[RealDeal]

VOTE CHIEF RUM
WORK ARTWORK

[DaddyTorgo]

guess i have my choice of walls and artwork?

[DaddyTorgo]

dola windows and artwork

[Danny]

I'll take Windows, you take artwork

[The Jackal]

WORK ON CARPENTRY
WORK ON CARPENTRY

[The Jackal]

We can deal with this case against me tomorrow, if I'm still alive.

[Danny]

Work on Windows
Work on Windows

[DaddyTorgo]

ok

WORK ON ARTWORK
WORK ON ARTWORK

[Danny]

I just didn't want an accidental double up on something. I'm optimistic heading into deadline :)

[Barkeep49]

And we seem to be at deadline.

[Barkeep49]

Another uneventful day. This time the butcher goes down. The butcher, while not a demon, was a most foul soul. You have no doubt that he could have been a demon, if given the right circumstances.

Mmm. Meat. Whether it comes from a cow, pig, or sheep you don’t care. You love to take an animal, break it down and sell its products to the community. You make a darn fine butcher. Some might say that you get a little too gleeful as you kill the animal, but what do those fools know? Nothing, that’s what.

CR – Render (1029), Render (1029), JH (104), RD (1089)

Roof – CR (1010), CR (1010), JE (1088), JE (1088)
Carpentry – JH (104), Jackal (1093), Jackal (1093)
Artwork – RD (1089), DT (1096), DT (1096)
Windows - Danny (1095), Danny (1095)

Walls - Repaired
Roof - Repaired
Windows - Repaired
Artwork - 2 shifts
Carpentry - Repaired

[Danny]

Wow, well that sucks. DT is a demon clearly now.

[Danny]

Probably won't matter though, unless the wolves get greedy and go for the major victory, they can end the game in the morning.

[DaddyTorgo]

LOL - you'd like us to believe that wouldn't you Danny?

[Danny]

I could be trying to trick you into killing a villager I could be trying to trick you into not believing me. We'll see right.

I almost decided to vote for you, but CR/Jackal really did make a lot of sense.

[DaddyTorgo]

Oh I've seen.

Yeah - well I'm pissed - the only reason I left a trail is because so many people decided not to put in actions last night and thus left my faking exposed. If people were actually participating I would have been fine.

[Danny]

Either way, risky for you, make the wrong decision and it could mean a loss.

[DaddyTorgo]

mmhmm...oh i know.

[Danny]

BK, I worked in Windows x2, they should be repaired.

[Danny]

Well, if you're wrong, not so good for you. If you're right, you're still only left with a 50% at best shot of victory

[DaddyTorgo]

I'm not going to be wrong.

[Danny]

It looks as if DT and friend is going for the major victory and either I or RealDeal will be dead, probably me even though I have no powers.

This leaves us with 6 players, 4 good and 2 demons.

RealDeal, Jonathan and Render are good. DaddyTorgo is bad. The last demon is either Jeheinz or Jackal, probably Jeheinz, but I'll investigate that more before the morning.

This mean the village is still looking good. Tomorrow make sure to put 6 votes on DaddyTorgo and let Jonathan, RealDeal or Render finish repairing the Artwork. This along with a night kill tonight forces the demons to attack the building. This then puts the game at 3 villagers, an angel and 1 demon.

This means that on the next day do everything you can to make sure the cathedral is repaired. If you repair it and hopefully choose the right one out of Jackal and Jeheinze.

I also want to ask BK a question about win conditions, BK, if at the end of the day the cathedral is repaired and then the demons make a night kill giving them a 1:1 ration, but the cathedral is still repaired, who is the winner?

[Danny]

Then kill me DT. Tomorrow is the worst night of the week for me to be on anyway with only about 20 minutes in the middle of the day

[Danny]

BTW, you really should have played up the angle that CR knew he was evil and thus wanted to fake his work.

[DaddyTorgo]

BTW, you really should have played up the angle that CR knew he was evil and thus wanted to fake his work.

*sighs* you know...that was the plan i had worked out. that was the endgame plan i worked out and setup last night.

but for some reason i'm spacey tonight - i just can't concentrate on what i'm doing at all...and i fucked it up. plain and simple. no excuses...no reasons. i just totally forgot and misplayed it.

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

prolly some irony - i played a great game as a wolf here only to fuck up a beautifully setup endgame scenario at the end all by myself.

If it's any consolation to my teammates - it'll take me a long time to forgive myself for this one.

:(

[DaddyTorgo]

btw danny - i know you're not the converted angel, so what are you?

[Danny]

You did play a good game though. You were never on my feel good about list, but never on my strongly distrust list either. FWIW, I would have strongly went against that if you tried. Since there is already a cultist, having two villagers know they are on the side of the wolves seems a bit much. But you might have gotten others to go along with it.

[Danny]

I'm the converted angel. Considering the village gas been so quiet and inactive, I felt it was worth it to come out and gain trust, so I could better be a vocal leader among the village.

[DaddyTorgo]

you are not the converted angel. i truth-sensed that statement and it was false.

[Danny]

Then you should be fine killing me

[Chief Rum]

Good luck, villagers. BK put me in a bad light there, but it was never spelled out to me that I could be a demon. I suppose if the demons had attacked me, they could have converted me. Not sure. In any case, I just knew I liked killing things, but I had no powers, even to kill things, ironically. So I was gung-ho for the village, and still am. Interested to see how this plays out.

I have more thoughts, but I can no longer share them until after the game. ;)

[Barkeep49]

Things seem to be shifting in the right direction. However, the Cathedral is once again farther from done in the morning than it was when you left it the night before.

Walls - Repaired
Roof - Repaired
Windows - Repaired
Artwork - 2 shifts
Carpentry - 6 shifts

[Danny]

Jeheinz should be working on the artwork, Jackal on the Carpentry today. If either of you vote or do not do this, I am going to take it that you are a demon.

[Danny]

Vote DaddyTorgo
Vote DaddyTorgo

This gives us the tiebreaker in a 2 vote tie.

Whichever one of Jeheinz/jackal are good. Again, I'm not trying to be bossy, but this is a sure fire way to help the village.

[Danny]

Today should go like this

I'm sure DT will vote for a villager/angel. There is now no way to lynch anyone but DT unless the other demon votes with him.

Jeheinz should be working on the Artwork
Jackal should be working on the artwork
Render and Jonathan also working on the carpentry
And then RealDeal can vote along with me.

I believe we are guaranteed to win this thing if we follow this strategy. Either the cathedral will be complete today or the last demon reveals himself by faking work. This forces the last last demon to attack the cathedral tonight and with only 1 I am sure we will be able to repair it again the following day. Demons are forced into a corner now, they either reveal or simply lose by not being to attack the cathedral more than two days in a row.

[Danny]

Change my post to

Jeheinz on Artwork
Jackal on Carpentry
Render on Carpentry
Jonathan on Carpentry

[Danny]

BTW, good job Micahah, it looks like you blocked the attack by the demons which has now pretty much won us the game.

[Danny]

However I do ask that Render/Jonathan/RealDeal, wait for Jackal and Jeheinz to commit to their work before you do. If either are reluctant, we know they are demon.

[jeheinz72]

It looks as if DT and friend is going for the major victory and either I or RealDeal will be dead, probably me even though I have no powers.

This leaves us with 6 players, 4 good and 2 demons.

RealDeal, Jonathan and Render are good. DaddyTorgo is bad. The last demon is either Jeheinz or Jackal, probably Jeheinz, but I'll investigate that more before the morning.



I'm confused. In reading up I first saw that you said you don't think I'm a demon, now you think I do?

[Danny]

Either you or Jackal is a demon, everyone else is cleared.

[jeheinz72]

This mean the village is still looking good. Tomorrow make sure to put 6 votes on DaddyTorgo and let Jonathan, RealDeal or Render finish repairing the Artwork. This along with a night kill tonight forces the demons to attack the building. This then puts the game at 3 villagers, an angel and 1 demon.


But wait, I thought we had 2 angels? You and RealDeal

I mean it's pretty clear DT is a demon here, obviously with the faked work. But if he really has that power, then even as a demon he could use it on your statement.

Confused again.

[jeheinz72]

Either you or Jackal is a demon, everyone else is cleared.

Ah ok, gotcha. Process of elimination.

So artwork, you got it. 2 units or 1 and a vote for DT?

Sorry, it's early. Brain no worky yet.

[Danny]

I was assuming I was going to be killed and was posting what would remain, which obviously wasn't the case.

[Danny]

Ah ok, gotcha. Process of elimination.

So artwork, you got it. 2 units or 1 and a vote for DT?

Sorry, it's early. Brain no worky yet.

2 units please :)

[jeheinz72]

WORK ARTWORK
WORK ARTWORK

[Danny]

Thanks. Providing no villager does something crazy, we're going to win this thing!

[RendeR]

VOTE DADDYTORGO
WORK CARPENTRY


As the Baron I feel I must help put an end to the Demon scourge. We shall overcome these fiends.

[Danny]

Ok, well lets change my strategy to

Jeheinz on Artwork = Done
Render x1 on Carpentry = Done
Jonathan x2 on Carpentry
Jacka x2 on Carpentry
And then RealDeal x1 on Carpentry and one vote on DT.

It's essential we get the work done tonight and force the demons to attack the cathedral again tomorrow

[Danny]

I am leaving for work, will be on afterwards. Please please follow the strategy I laid out :).

[RealDeal]

Although the message wasn't crystal clear, it appeared I blocked an attack on the walls last night.

[DaddyTorgo]

why do you guys wanna lynch me so badly? i'm not all bad. i'm just a poor possessed archbishop. there's good left in me...i can feel it!

[jeheinz72]

Yeah. uh-huh.

[DaddyTorgo]

You know you guys really are making the right play lynching me first because I am leviathan. if you leave me alive i'll just fuck up the cathedral even more. bawhahahaha

it'd be a shame if you went in the other direction and lynched the other suspected demon first.

[The Jackal]

WORK CARPENTRY
WORK CARPENTRY

[RendeR]

The only good left in you DT is a love of all things OHIO...


yea, I went there, oh yeah.. ;)

[The Jackal]

I think we're in pretty good shape here.

[The Jackal]

artwork 2/2 (heinz x2 1133)
carpentry 3/6 (RendeR 1135, Jackal x2 1142)

DT 3 (Danny x2 1122, RendeR 1135)

yet to act: DT, JE, RD

[The Jackal]

Problem is if we're down to me and Heinz as the last demon, he'd likely fake the artwork.

[The Jackal]

But if it is DT/Heinz I suppose it doesn't really matter.

[DaddyTorgo]

WORK ON CARPENTRY
WORK ON ARTWORK

[DaddyTorgo]

The only good left in you DT is a love of all things OHIO...


yea, I went there, oh yeah.. ;)


oooh you tard! :rant:

[The Jackal]

artwork 3/2 (heinz x2 1133, DT 1148)
carpentry 4/6 (RendeR 1135, Jackal x2 1142, DT 1148)

DT 3 (Danny x2 1122, RendeR 1135)

yet to act: JE, RD

[DaddyTorgo]

Much more fun this way, don't you all agree? hehehe

[DaddyTorgo]

Just FYI - the only reason I went ahead and did that is because RendeR was being an ass :D

well okay that's not true. need to give my fellow :devil: some room to operate

[DaddyTorgo]

KETCHUP PRON!!!!

[DaddyTorgo]

or maybe i'll get home and post pics in the thread...lol

[RendeR]

*chuckles*

[DaddyTorgo]

Hi Telle!!!! Sorry that we offed you. Figured that the odds were maybe slightly better that you were an angel or something else than that you were the cultist - and then when we realized we might want to save you it was too late to do it without exposing ourselves.

[Danny]

artwork 3/2 (heinz x2 1133, DT 1148)
carpentry 4/6 (RendeR 1135, Jackal x2 1142, DT 1148)

DT 3 (Danny x2 1122, RendeR 1135)

yet to act: JE, RD

DT is going to fake/not fake to try and throw us off, but it doesn't really matter, actions are locked in for any potential bad player, so now we can simply change the strategy a bit.

Nobody else should be placing work on the artwork.

Jonathan spend both points working on carpentry.

Realdeal, spend one point on carpentry and then use your other points for spiritual health or to vote. This makes DT's strategy useless as a demon would still have to reveal themselves in order for work to not be completed on the cathedral.

[Danny]

I'll bold that one more time since I know posts can be overlooked. For tonight

Jonathan please spend two points on Carpentry
RealDeal please spend one point on Carpentry and one for spiritual health.

[Danny]

Problem is if we're down to me and Heinz as the last demon, he'd likely fake the artwork.

If either of you fake, it's game over :)

[Jonathan Ezarik]

WORK ON CARPENTRY

WORK ON CARPENTRY

[RealDeal]

Work Carpentry

Work Carpentry

One of these will be used for spiritual health

[RendeR]

this oughta be good

[RendeR]

ok heading home, will catch up on this later on.

[Barkeep49]

It feels so good having that Demon scum gone. Not to mention the Cathedral is reapired. Assuming it is still repaired by this time tomorrow a major victory will be in-hand for the villagers.

You’ve always had a devilish sense of humor (being Leviathan this isn’t too surprising). So who better to posses than the Arch Bishop? And it turned out to be a good choice as he’s always enjoyed the power that he’s been able to wield through his position as a spiritual leader. It’s this unabashed enjoyment of power that led him to rise quickly to the position of Arch Bishop. And now as the capstone of his career his town will build a Cathedral. Of course you’re determined to stop that foolishness. Thanks to your hearing of confessions, twice per game you may choose a statement and learn if the person saying it believes it to be true or not. However, if they know of your intent in testing their statement, you’re confident that this ability will not work.

As Leviathan any night attempt at sabotage is guaranteed to succeed and will cause double damage to that area. If blocked by Michah, you will only cause normal damage. Once per game you may make a night kill which cannot be blocked . If the bodyguard is present, the bodyguard will learn your identity.

(redacted)
Walls - Repaired
Roof - Repaired
Windows - Repaired
Artwork - Repaired
Carpentry - Repaired

[Hannibal Lecter]

Go Village!

[Barkeep49]

The land is officially in mourning. The cathedral may nearly be done, but the lady of the land has been brutally murdered. No one would doubt her love or loyalty to the Baron. All dress in black.

You feel so sorry for those who aren’t you. Your life as the Baroness is so grand. But the lives of most people? So dull. So so dull. And where most people of your class and sophistication are married to some terrible tyrant, you are fortunate to be married to a wonderful man, RendeR. You trust him completely and this trust means that you know that while there have been mumblings of a supernatural presence in the town that he is not like that. Your trust also means you may freely communicate with him freely (though please copy me on these messages). Of course your love for him means that should harm befall him that you could simply not go on living and you would take your own life.

[DaddyTorgo]

Of course your love for him means that should harm befall him that you could simply not go on living and you would take your own life.

awww crap!


.

[Danny]

Ok, so Render, RealDeal, Danny, Jackal and Jeheinz are alive.

BK, I am assuming the cathedral still has no damage done to it, right?

So the game will be over as of deadline right even if the demon is still alive right? There is no chance of a night kill since the game will end when the day ends since there is no way the demons can damage the cathedral? It's just a matter of whether the village goes for the last demon so that the villagers can get the major victory instead of normal victory right?

[Danny]

Since this question is left unanswered when I have to leave. I believe Jeheinze and Jackal should both be putting in work on the cathedral even though it doesn't need it. This will lock them into their actions and based on the answer to my previous question we can then decide who we want to lynch.

[RendeR]

Thank GOD they killed Jon instead of me!!!!


WOOOHOOOO =)


Eat that DT you nasty Demon Spawn you!

[DaddyTorgo]

Thank GOD they killed Jon instead of me!!!!


WOOOHOOOO =)


Eat that DT you nasty Demon Spawn you!

suckass. :banghead:

[RendeR]

LOL

[Barkeep49]

Ok, so Render, RealDeal, Danny, Jackal and Jeheinz are alive.

BK, I am assuming the cathedral still has no damage done to it, right?

So the game will be over as of deadline right even if the demon is still alive right? There is no chance of a night kill since the game will end when the day ends since there is no way the demons can damage the cathedral? It's just a matter of whether the village goes for the last demon so that the villagers can get the major victory instead of normal victory right?
The cathedral is still complete.

[The Jackal]

I've been waiting on BK to answer a question for me since last night which is why I haven't posted yet today..

[RealDeal]

Same here, Jackal. Been looking for a BK answer to a question for 3 days.

[jeheinz72]

Crazy day (had to take my son to the ER, he's fine, but crazy day).

I don't see why I should work on an already completed cathedral instead of voting for who I know to be the last demon by process of elimination. I mean even if he had some special way of damaging it, he'd surely just choose to do so in a different area than I worked on anyhow. And if you think I'm a demon, well then lynch vote me (I"m not) and why would you care if I worked or not?

So anyhow

VOTE JACKAL
VOTE JACKAL

[jeheinz72]

I"ll be around another ~20-30 minutes if anyone has any questions about my gameplay. I doubt anyone does though, it's pretty straightforward. I think I worked once and voted once each day, aside from the day where life got in the way and the day where I was asked to work twice. I don't think any faking happened in an area I worked any of the days so that should be of little worry to anyone.

[Danny]

Crazy day (had to take my son to the ER, he's fine, but crazy day).

I don't see why I should work on an already completed cathedral instead of voting for who I know to be the last demon by process of elimination. I mean even if he had some special way of damaging it, he'd surely just choose to do so in a different area than I worked on anyhow. And if you think I'm a demon, well then lynch vote me (I"m not) and why would you care if I worked or not?

So anyhow

VOTE JACKAL
VOTE JACKAL

Wanted to see the reactions mostly because you're right there is no need for you to work. I think Jackal's play after I thought the demons were either CR/Jackal or DT + Jeh/Jack did not sit well with me. He decided not to defend himself at all which if he is a demon is smart since he knew CR would come up good and the link between them would be broken.

[jeheinz72]

Yeah I don't know about all that, honestly. This hasn't been my best game. Super-distracted and I put so much effort into that last game that I didn't have the energy to do the villager side of the work (whereas last game it was pretty easy since well, I knew what everyone was).

All I know is I'm a villager, you and RD are angels, Render is of course cleared. That's leaves Jackal as the only alternative beyond some sort of paranoid conspiracy theory which would entail you or RD to be a demon and frankly, if that is the case I'd much rather just pay you off for a nice game rather than go down that road.

I don't understand why he didn't damage the cathedral last night. I mean it's 2 villagers, 2 angels and 1 demon left. Even if somehow he convinces all of you to lynch me to make it 1:1, doesn't he still lose?

[The Jackal]

VOTE THE JACKAL
VOTE THE JACKAL

[The Jackal]

Work on the Cathedral, boys.

[The Jackal]

Just in case the demons have some way of further sabotaging it, that is. But Heinz is a dead man. Unless I don't still have my ability.. -nudge BK-

[The Jackal]

If you want to be safe we can just toss votes on Heinz but i know you don't have much reason to trust me. I've played UTR most of the game so that I'd have suspicion on me enough that the demons wouldn't kill me, and so I'd be involved in a lynch near the end.

[Danny]

If you want to be safe we can just toss votes on Heinz but i know you don't have much reason to trust me. I've played UTR most of the game so that I'd have suspicion on me enough that the demons wouldn't kill me, and so I'd be involved in a lynch near the end.

If true, well done. I've bounced back and forth on both of you. This game was very well played by the demons in the sense that it was very difficult to get a good read on anyone.

[Danny]

Hmmm, I'm guessing some sort of duke like ability since we haven't had one yet.

[The Jackal]

Right.

[RendeR]

OK so who do I vote for tonight?

[Danny]

Work on Walls
Work on Roof

I'll let Jackal's ability sort this out and simply reinforce a couple parts just in case.

[Danny]

Personally I think we should just put a point of work in on every section. Either Jackal is a lying wolf or his ability will take care of Jeheinz. Plus. while not likely, just in case the wolf has some sort of take a person who voted for me ability, I'd prefer to stay out of it.

[RendeR]

I will vote for someone, should it be heinz or jackal?


Work Carpentry

[Danny]

Jackal says it doesn't matter and he can take Jeheinz out instead of him. I would keep that in mind.

[RealDeal]

WORK CARPENTRY

WORK CARPENTRY

Im faking this work.

[Danny]

My actions are locked in, but one more things to note. DT seemed a bit upset that there was inactivity the day he faked his work. On that day, Jeheinz was the one who forgot to submit his actions. I think DT was legitimately upset in that moment and not posturing. Also, does a wolf miss that opportunity to submit some action? I'm still n not convinced either way, but I think if I still have a vote I would vote the jackal and have him use his power if is not bluffing.

[Danny]

Oh my gosh, I can't type anymore

[Danny]

My final guess, Jackal is the last wolf.

[hoopsguy]

Would love to tell you, but ...

[Danny]

Yeah, BK needs to hurry up! I hope all is alright with him, he hasn't had the same activity of his game the past day or two.

Either way, I have a victory as an angel though :)

[Danny]

At least, I would have to think so, I'm never 100% sure until the results are posted up.

[The Jackal]

You're quite wrong, Danny.

[The Jackal]

But I did purposely play suspiciously, so I guess I can't blame you.

[Danny]

It's tough, I went back and forth on you both. I think this was an all around well played game, though the activity dipped more on some days then I woud have liked.

[RendeR]

SO what happened?? =)


I got tied up beating my children.

[Danny]

Nothing yet, waiting for BK

[Barkeep49]

Today it's the Mother Superior who is in your sights. She could have had great sway over you, but she was found lacking and she lost her ability to change your minds over who should be lynched.

The town is so misguided. Filled with impure perverts it is. They are so lucky to have you and your nuns here to keep them pure. Of course you are confident that at some point their sins will be too much. As such you exercise the power of the Duke and may once per game choose a player who will be lynched. You must use at least one of your actions to vote each day and on the day you use your power as duke both your actions must be voting. You may not use this power until Day 3 or later. Finally, if you inform others of your power as Duke before Day 3, you will lose the ability.

[Danny]

I guess there was a day when Jackal didn't vote.

[The Jackal]

There were a lot of days I didn't vote.. I would've appreciated a return PM so I could've actually planned strategy yesterday, but oh well.

[RealDeal]

I think something is up with BK, bc he usually is super quick answering questions.

[Danny]

I think something is up with BK, bc he usually is super quick answering questions.

Yeah I hope he is ok. The game should be over now or the cathedral damaged.

[jeheinz72]

Wait, so what happened here?

[jeheinz72]

And if Jackal wasn't the wolf, who the bloody hell is?

[RendeR]

Color me confused.

[DaddyTorgo]

I dunno. Barkeep was on yesterday morning though, so I presume he's okay...

[dubb93]

Is it over?

[RendeR]

Ok so there's 4 of us left, Danny, Realdeal, jeheinz and Myself.

VOTE JEHIENZ
VOTE JEHEINZ


Or am I missing something really obvious?

[jeheinz72]

Ok so there's 4 of us left, Danny, Realdeal, jeheinz and Myself.

VOTE JEHIENZ
VOTE JEHEINZ


Or am I missing something really obvious?


Well for one, the night results.

For two, I'm not the wolf. My only guess is Danny isn't really the angel he says he is.

For three, I'm pretty sure we won with a completed cathedral either way.

[RealDeal]

I have no idea what's going on right now, but jheinz is the one to vote for.

[hoopsguy]

I could just post the results in place of BK, using his fancy moderator color. You guys trust me to run them accurately, right?

[Hannibal Lecter]

yes!

[Danny]

please do

[Danny]

Even if you cheat it so the wolves win, just get us some results, so the game can be over :)

[The Jackal]

Hopefully everything is alright with BK.

[hoopsguy]

In all seriousness, I believe I know how the game should end but I haven't seen night actions nor do I know all the hidden roles. Wish I did so I could pinch hit here.

I'll join in with the others who have expressed concern about BK, as this is definitely not the norm for him when running (or playing) a game.

[Abe Sargent]

I am the next mod, right? Perhaps I should go ahead and post my rules and get things moving?

[Hannibal Lecter]

yeah deff. even if this isnt over... it has to be close :)

[Passacaglia]

FWIW, I sent BK an email this morning to see if everything is okay.

[Hannibal Lecter]

hes popped up a couple of times on IM.... but never responded!

[DaddyTorgo]

straight-up...i'm worried about BK

[PurdueBrad]

straight-up...i'm worried about BK

+100 I know I haven't been here as much as some of you guys but he's always been incredibly helpful and friendly and available. I'm very concerned as well. :(

[RealDeal]

Is everyone ready to declare this game over and exchange roles?

[DaddyTorgo]

nooooo!!!! we still have a shot!!!!!

hmmm well kinda sorta maybe possibly

[hoopsguy]

Let's do it this way. Forward me your PMs that you sent on the final night and I'll process them based on my understanding of the rules. I've had a couple of conversations with BK earlier in the game and think I know how this is supposed to wrap up.

If he arrives back at some later point in time he can feel free to correct me. But this will at least give us a chance of closure on the game.

If everyone is game, I'll process the end as soon as I hear from the people left with night actions. You know who you are :)

[DaddyTorgo]

bawhahah

i think it ends up with us losing hoopsy

[jeheinz72]

Well presuming Danny is the final wolf, you certainly do

[Danny]

lol, Yeah I am a wolf and Real Deal confirmed me as an angel for kicks :)

[Danny]

And while I don't see how, if you are not the wolf Jeheinz it would have to be Render since I know Real Deal is an angel. I don't see how it could be Render though.

[Passacaglia]

I say we flip a coin.

(btw, I was the bodyguard)

[DaddyTorgo]

pass - did you get a reply back from BK?

[jeheinz72]

And while I don't see how, if you are not the wolf Jeheinz it would have to be Render since I know Real Deal is an angel. I don't see how it could be Render though.

I'm not the wolf. Could they have converted RendeR or RealDeal then?

[Danny]

RealDeal I'm sure not. Render, I suppose it's possible, but the final wolf if Alastor and he would be a starting wolf I would think. You still are by far the most likely, but I don't see why you would be so adamant about not being the wolf since the game is over except for a result we're waiting for.

[Passacaglia]

pass - did you get a reply back from BK?

Nada. I do have his phone number from an FOFC get-together, though. At what point would it not be spazzy to call or text him?

[DaddyTorgo]

Hmmm - Well his last appearance online was like Sunday at 9am --- I think you give it a week.

Honestly if it wasn't a situation where he dissapeared before a game was done I'd say you give it more time because maybe he just wanted a break and whatever, but he's not the kind to just abandon responsibilities.

Could always shoot him a text msg too - that's slightly less stalkery.

[Abe Sargent]

I'd say calling is fine.

[RealDeal]

I'm what I said I was. In fact, pretty much everything I said the whole game was true. I'm not sure if Danny was technically an angel, but he was the human we were charged to be guardian angels of, and as a result of accumulating enough spiritual health, he was "raised" to a higher status.

[Danny]

As Real Deal said, I'm technically not an angel. I started the game as a regular villager with only a hint of some deeper calling towards the side of good. I ended up gaining the identities, PM rights and win conditions of the angels, though still officially counting as a villager.

If DT really did scan my statement "I am the converted angel", that is the reason it came up false since I still counted as a villager in the win ration. I thought he was just bs'ing though, so I didn't come out with the reason the statement came out the way it did. I figured they thought I was an angel either way.

[Danny]

I was comfortable having the demons thinking I was an angel of some sort though. I thought it was to our advantage if they were off on the win ratio. I thought it was good for me in that there was less of a chance they would kill me as an angel in a close contest when they needed dead villagers.

[Passacaglia]

Hmmm - Well his last appearance online was like Sunday at 9am --- I think you give it a week.

Honestly if it wasn't a situation where he dissapeared before a game was done I'd say you give it more time because maybe he just wanted a break and whatever, but he's not the kind to just abandon responsibilities.

Could always shoot him a text msg too - that's slightly less stalkery.

A week was my thought as well -- especially since clap said he saw him on IM a couple times. And yeah, definitely a text.

[Hannibal Lecter]

he showed up, but never said anythign, or responded....

[Passacaglia]

Right -- but if he signed on, it means he is okay at least, and probably just too busy to reply.

[DaddyTorgo]

maybe the zombies got him and turning on his computer was his last act of humanity before they ate his brains and trashed his computer?

[Passacaglia]

maybe the zombies got him and turning on his computer was his last act of humanity before they ate his brains and trashed his computer?

If so, I really failed as the bodyguard.