Werewolf LXXXVIII: Game Thread

[Barkeep49]

I have nothing but the utmost respect for those who are of religious belief and am using religion in more of the cultural folklore sense than any literal interpretation. While this game is a sequel, the roles and their powers that are not specifically stated in these rules are likely to have changed. Use the first game as a precedent at your own peril.

Introduction
The year is 1350 and the town of St. Saldana has been prosperous for many years. It is now time to take that prosperity and use it to honor God, who has made it all possible by building a cathedral. This would lack any noteworthiness were it not for the fact that the Devil noticed that Angels seemed to be taking a higher than normal level of interest in the completion of the building. And if the Forces of the Holy want it, the Devil reasoned, not unfairly mind you, that he must want them not to have it. And so both sides have established a presence in the bustling metropolis as this major project comes to completion.

Sides and Victory Conditions

Villagers : Win a normal victory by either eradicating the village of demons or by completing the construction of the cathedral. Win a major victory if they complete both.

Demons: Win a normal victory if they prevent the construction of the cathedral by achieving a 1-1 ratio with the villagers, a minor victory if the angels are eradicated, and a major victory if they accomplish both.

Angels: No one outside of the Angels are quite sure what they are up to. It’s safe to say they want the Cathedral built and the Demons stopped. But there’s got to be more to it than that, right?

Note: The game will end either if there are no Demons left or at the end of the following day after all work on the Cathedral is complete (so if all work is done by the end of Day 3, the Cathedral must still have no work left at the end of Day 4). The Cathedral may be damaged in the interim as long as all is repaired by the end of the following cycle.

Cycles
Day Cycle – During the day cycle players can do two things: vote and work on the cathedral. A player may do 2 of one thing, or 1 of each.

A vote should be at the end of a post, bolded, and in the color orange, so it looks like this:
I’ve never seen someone who is more obviously a wolf.

Vote Barkeep
Votes not properly formatted may be missed.

Once a player works on the Cathedral they may not change where they are working.

Once a player votes they may unvote and choose a different player to vote for but they may not work on the Cathederal.

A player may do two actions in one post. Each action should be listed separately. If voting for a player twice, vote on separate lines.
Day Cycles begin approximately 8 AM Eastern and last until 10 PM Eastern. Players may choose to PM the moderator with an advance action if they’re unavailable during the Day Cycle. The player with the most votes will be lynched, and removed from the game.

Ties: In the event of two players having an equal amount of votes at the end of the day, the player whose mean vote has been on the longest (determined by post #) will be lynched. In the event of this being equal, the player with the longest held median vote, will be lynched.

Night Cycle – Lasts from 10 PM Eastern to 7 AM Eastern. During this time anyone who has a night action may submit it.

Each night the Demons will have the option of either killing a player or having two demons sabotage the Cathedral and attempt to damage it. They may sabotage the same place twice or two separate places. The Demons cannot do the same night action more than two days in a row.

The order to the Night Cycle actions are not publicly known due to the hidden nature of powers in the game.

Roles

Villagers
All players will have a public role. Not all roles have a special power or ability. Angels/Demons may get to keep the power of their public role. There is a Duke (http:// fofc.dangarion.com/index.php?title=Duke), Bodyguard (http:// fofc.dangarion.com/index.php?title=Bodyguard), Seer (http:// fofc.dangarion.com/index.php?title=Seer). There will also be a cultist who appears to the seer to be a villager, and counts as a villager for ration purposes, but wins with the Demons. He has abilities to help him with this task.

Demons
This is a list of possible Demon roles. Only Lucifer is guaranteed to be in the game. Demons are allowed to communicate freely outside of the game thread.

Lucifer – The head Devil. As an incredibly powerful supernatural being he cannot hide his identity from St. Gabriel, but equally he knows the identity of St. Gabriel. He will, however, appear as a villager if scanned by the seer. According to The Rules, he may not reveal who St. Gabriel is posing as, even to the other Demons. He may freely communicate with St. Gabriel (cc’ing the GM). Lucifer also has other powers, unknown to any but himself.

Azazel – Brutal wolf. If lynched he will be able to kill another player. If killed at night he will kill the player attacking him before he dies.

Purson – Twice times during the game may choose a player and learn the PM that player received at the start of the game. If he scans an angel, he will not learn that the player is an angel.

Leviathan – Any night attempt at sabotage is guaranteed to succeed and will cause double damage to that area. If blocked by Michah, he will only cause normal damage. Once per game he may make a night kill which cannot be blocked . If the bodyguard is present, the bodyguard will learn the identity of the Leviathan.

Alastor – At the start of the game may designate 3 players. If those players vote for a demon on the day that demon is lynched, those players will automatically die, except if that player is St. Gabriel or a particular player on the villager side.

Henchman – No special powers.

Angels
This is a list of possible Angels roles. Only St. Gabriel is guaranteed to be in the game. Angels are allowed to communicate freely outside of the game thread.

St. Gabriel – The head Angel. As an incredibly powerful supernatural being he cannot hide his identity from Lucifer, but equally he knows the identity of Lucifer. He will always appear as a villager if scanned. According to The Rules, he may not reveal who Lucifer is posing as, even to the other Angels. He may freely communicate with Lucifer (cc’ing the GM). Gabriel also has other powers, unknown to any but himself.

Elijah – Once per game may designate a player (non-Angel) who cannot be killed or lynched for the next 3 cycles (beginning with that cycle).

Metatron – At the start of the game may designate 3 players. Metatron will receive any non-demonic powers of the first of those players to die.

Michah – May designate an area to be safe from wolf sabotage each night.

Rhamiel – May scan a player each night to attempt to learn the details of their powers. If he scans a demon, he will not learn that the player is a demon.

Seraph – Has powers known only to him.

Uriel – Every other day may do twice as much work as normal on the Cathedral.


Building the Cathedral

There is unfinished work left to be done in several areas of the Cathedral. In order to work on the Cathedral post the “Work on” action in bold and in the color orange. So, for instance

Work on Walls

There is work to be done on the following areas:
Walls
Roof
Windows
Artwork
Carpentry

How many shifts of work are left to be completed will be announced at the start of the game.

No work on the Roof or Windows may be done until the Walls are finished. If the Walls become damaged during the course of the game work may not continue on the Windows and Roof.

A player may choose to fake their work on an area by PM’ing me.

Different areas cause different amounts of damage if sabotaged. When an area is sabotaged successfully it will always cause the same amount of damage, however, there are powers which can mitigate the damage in an area.

[Barkeep49]

Roles and Player List
Arch Bishop - Daddy T
Baker - RealDeal
Baron - Render
<s>Baroness's Maid - Telle</s> Lynched Day 2 Cultist
Baronness - Jonathan
Butcher - Chief Rum
Candlestick Maker- Danny
<s>Castle Guard - Lathum</s> Killed Night 1
<s>Healer - Purdue</s> Kill Night 2
Hermitt - Tyrtih
<s>Innkeeper - Hannibal</s> Lynched Day 1 Seer
Master Carpenter - Kwhit
<s>Merchant - Pass</s> Killed by Alastor's power Day 3 Bodyguard
<s>Minstril - Alan T</s> Killed by Alastor's power Day 3 Seraph
Mother Superior - Jackal
<s>Shepard - Hoops</s> Lynched Day 3 Lucifer
Stonemason - jeheniz
<s>Vagrant - Packer</s> Lynched Day 4

[Barkeep49]

Current Status of the Cathedral

Walls - Repaired
Roof - 6 Shifts
Windows - 5 shifts
Artwork - 4 shifts
Carpentry - 3 shifts

Day 1 (http://75.126.153.96/fofc/showthread.php?p=1928280#post1928280)
Night 1 (http://75.126.153.96/fofc/showthread.php?p=1928399#post1928399)
Day 2 (http://75.126.153.96/fofc/showthread.php?p=1929266#post1929266)
Night 2 (http://75.126.153.96/fofc/showthread.php?p=1929373#post1929373)
Day 3 (http://75.126.153.96/fofc/showthread.php?p=1929974#post1929974)
Night 3 (http://75.126.153.96/fofc/showthread.php?p=1930797#post1930797)
Day 4 (http://75.126.153.96/fofc/showthread.php?p=1931683#post1931683)
Night 4 (http://75.126.153.96/fofc/showthread.php?p=1931893&posted=1#post1931893)

[Danny]

We'll I'm going to class now. Will I be cow tipping later? No one knows ;).

Hopefully I have a short first day.

[Barkeep49]

The time is close. With a little more everything will be spic and span. Praise be the one Above, your years of work are nearly at an end. Who cares about the mangled body found in the village or the claims that only demonic forces could have been at work? No that's just silly. Everyone knows if there are demons around there must be angels around as well.

[Passacaglia]

It's about time the bigwigs finally started building a Cathedral again, after the first one was such a success. Of course, if there's deals to be had this time on the way, I'm definitely up for making a quick buck.

Hey Danny, good to see you! I'm assuming you're a candlestick maker, not a candlestick? Either way, we should talk.

[Hannibal Lecter]

ooo i the innkeeper.... dunno what that means. gonna go read my pm then go to bed :)

[PurdueBrad]

If you're feeling low, hurt, or just run down, come see me. I can make it all better.

Hmmm...that sounded a little more Acid Queen from "Tommy" than Healer in this game.

[RendeR]

I'm chuckling at the fact that of all the female oriented roles, Telle got the Maid. I mean sheesh, she coulda at least been Mother superior or the brothel queen...err....did I just say that?

[RendeR]

I am the BARON. I am proud of my village and my people. Together we shall create a beautiful example of God's beauty here on earth.

BUILD I SAY, Build and within your building, rejoice!

[Barkeep49]

Your PM is quite explicit if you are an Angel or Demon. If it doesn't give you the name of your Angel or Demon assume you're a villager.

[Hannibal Lecter]

If you're feeling low, hurt, or just run down, come see me. I can make it all better.

Hmmm...that sounded a little more Acid Queen from "Tommy" than Healer in this game.


i was looking for a hooker role....

[PurdueBrad]

i was looking for a hooker role....

I'm not sure that this "healer" is dumb enough to take on someone named Hannibal Lecter as a john!

[Hannibal Lecter]

Now, do the angels and demons posses people? I being the innkeeper have been known to all in the village for their whole lives, so i cant be a demon.

[Hannibal Lecter]

I'm not sure that this "healer" is dumb enough to take on someone named Hannibal Lecter as a john!
nom nom nom baby!

[DaddyTorgo]

I am pleased that all of my children have gathered here together to undertake this glorious work in praise of our Lord and Savior. I trust that with prudence and foresight we will build a most splendid monument to the glory of God the Father.

[RendeR]

I am pleased that all of my children have gathered here together to undertake this glorious work in praise of our Lord and Savior. I trust that with prudence and foresight we will build a most splendid monument to the glory of God the Father.


I'm sorry, but this coming from DT after having talked about life with him a few times is just fucking cracking me up. I'm dyin here dude.....:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[DaddyTorgo]

a butcher, a baker, AND a candlestick maker? SWEET

[DaddyTorgo]

I'm sorry, but this coming from DT after having talked about life with him a few times is just fucking cracking me up. I'm dyin here dude.....:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

this is true. IRL i am quite the athiest.

[Barkeep49]

a butcher, a baker, AND a candlestick maker? SWEET
I'm glad someone noticed :).

[DaddyTorgo]

I'm glad someone noticed :).

I see all that happens here in your earthly domain O Lord.

[RendeR]

*CACKLES*

[DaddyTorgo]

*CACKLES*

[ooc] i intend to play IC all game so you're going to be cackling a lot

[PurdueBrad]

"And when I get that feeling...I need sexual...healing."

Are you busy working on the Cathedral? Need a break from saving your soul? If so, look up the village healer. We have healing hands massages...happy endings only after 9 PM.

Sorry, we now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

[Alan T]

Just dropping in real quick to check in. I evidently like music and to sing. I shall have to work on a beautiful hymn to praise our good Lord's name.

[The Jackal]

Mother Superior checking in. Are you being nice or naughty?

[Telle]

I'm chuckling at the fact that of all the female oriented roles, Telle got the Maid. I mean sheesh, she coulda at least been Mother superior or the brothel queen...err....did I just say that?

You noticed this too? Why do I always have to be the one to clean up the messes?? :)

[Tyrith]

Well, I'm a hermit. Apparently I'm not fond of being amongst you guys anyway.

Which, RL wise, will make sense for tomorrow - I won't be around a lot, the little bit I will be will be during the afternoon. After tomorrow my availability should be vastly better.

[hoopsguy]

Don't mind me. I'm just tending to my flock.

I think I'm going to have fun with being the Shepard.

[RealDeal]

Checking in.

Want some bread?

[Danny]

It's about time the bigwigs finally started building a Cathedral again, after the first one was such a success. Of course, if there's deals to be had this time on the way, I'm definitely up for making a quick buck.

Hey Danny, good to see you! I'm assuming you're a candlestick maker, not a candlestick? Either way, we should talk.

I am candlestick maker. Part of me resembles a candlestick, but that is only for my lovely wife.

I'm sure we could get together for a trade. I only ask for a fair price. I am a simple man and need only food and clothing for my family.

[Danny]

During these tough and grueling times ahead, me and my family offers what little extra we have to contribute to the cathedral and to our neighbors. Our home and my shop our open to whoever those are in need.

For now I bid ye all a goodnight and a god bless.

[Chief Rum]

I am one of the few villagers who seems heavily skilled in the use of sharp cutting utensils. Don't read anything into that (unless you're reading that I am the butcher, than you're right on).

[Chief Rum]

Okay, I'm going to make perhaps a controversial decision, so if it gets me lynched (understandably after the last game), so be it. But I am just going to work on the cathedral today.

As usual, Wednesday is a two-job day for me, which means that once I leave the thread tonight (other than maybe a quick check in in the morning before I head out), I won't be back until after the deadline tomorrow night. Normally, this is the point where I end up having to throw out some pointless Day One vote.

So the option of just working on the cathedral here appeals to me, as at least I can be more certainly helpful to the village there, when a Day One vote is likely to just be crap.

So at the risk people will think I am trying to hide from voting, at least for a day...

WORK ON WALLS (1st action)
WORK ON WALLS (2nd action)

Good luck everyone!

[Hannibal Lecter]

edited by barkeep?

[Hannibal Lecter]

ok, so why would CR be worried about working on the cathedral? isnt that what were supposed to do? I guess we need some kinda voting record to be bale to judge people later... but day one votes are always bogus!

[hoopsguy]

I think Chief learned a lesson from Day 1 of the last Cathedral game, based upon my (re)reading of it yesterday. He took some heat for putting out an early vote that day when there was an option to just work on the walls.

However, for those of us who are going to be around I do think that we need to put some actions towards voting. Assuming the rules are the same as last game, there will be a lynch one way or another each day.

[hoopsguy]

Also, wolf votes are never bogus. Reasons for Day 1 votes are usually pretty bogus, but the votes themselves are not.

[PurdueBrad]

I'm hoping to get some downtime today to see how we played it last game but I don't think CR's move is necessarily a bad one. In the building or work-based games (Cathedral I and the outerspace one [sorry, can't remember name or who's game it was]) I tend to prefer the tunnel-visioned approach on getting the labor done as we can maybe flush out information on fakes and sabotages and get a good deal of work done. I'll read up some after I give these two finals today.

[Barkeep49]

edited by barkeep?
Indeed. I put his vote in orange.

[Hannibal Lecter]

Also, wolf votes are never bogus. Reasons for Day 1 votes are usually pretty bogus, but the votes themselves are not.
fair enough :D

[Hannibal Lecter]

Indeed. I put his vote in orange.
I figured that is the case... since i cant image how many will remember to do it (Ill try though!)

[Alan T]

There is very little chance that I will have time to review the last game we were in. I honestly don't remember what my role was in the last game either (I think I was either an Angel or Demon last time, but don't remember which).

I did read through the rules real quick and the majority of roles, but need to get working soon and likely won't be around a ton during each day. My thoughts right now are:

- Normally I would get a vote out early if I felt there to be a chance I won't be able to get back. In this game once you work on the cathedral or vote, you are pretty much locked in to that action, so I am going to have to risk the chance that I don't get back to vote and wait to see what happens during the day beforehand.

- There has been early talk about the importance of votes for a history or the ability to learn about others. I believe we are doing the devil's work for him if we choose to focus too heavily on votes and too lightly on the cathedral. Remember building the cathedral is of utmost importance, and the work done on the cathedral can be a valuable tool in hunting down demons as well. As we can compare daily the amount of work done on a section vs how many people worked on a section. Demons are then stuck either not working on the cathedral at all (and standing out in that regard), or working on the cathedral and faking it (thus being able to be narrowed down through that means) , or doing work on the cathedral and directly helping us while hurting their goal.

- I likely am going to work on the walls as well today with both actions, but as I mentioned above am holding off to see what all occurs first (since once I do the work, I am locked into it).

- I am sure I had another point, but I can't remember it for the life of me. so anyhows, I'll try to check in again this afternoon.

[PackerFanatic]

A vagrant - nice.

[KWhit]

I think Chief learned a lesson from Day 1 of the last Cathedral game, based upon my (re)reading of it yesterday. He took some heat for putting out an early vote that day when there was an option to just work on the walls.

However, for those of us who are going to be around I do think that we need to put some actions towards voting. Assuming the rules are the same as last game, there will be a lynch one way or another each day.

I didn't play in the last game. Could you elaborate on that? Was there a tiebreaker? What if there were no votes at all?

I am thinking of doing the same as CR and doing double work on the cathedral today, but I want to understand the lynch rules first.

[PackerFanatic]

I will be around during the day, and I will probably do one of each, since the Cathedral does eventually need to get done.

[hoopsguy]

I wasn't in the last game either, but I'm through the first 300 or so posts. There was a Day 1 discussion on "no lynch" and Barkeep chimed in with that quote. I'll find it later today when I've got some time to do sifting.

In the meantime ...
BK - is "no lynch" an option in this game?

[DaddyTorgo]

i will be in and out all day. as per my usual, i may sit in the thread just so i have an idea of what the last post i read was, but not sure how much posting i will get to do or when

[DaddyTorgo]

Our beloved Minstrel speaks with a truth that is beyond his comprehension regarding the necessity of working on our monument to our Savior. Remember what is said my children - idle hand's are the devil's tool. While I understand the desire to root out the forces of darkness that our Lord God has told me in a sacred vision have taken root amongst you, I must caution you with words of great hope: God has not forsaken you! Although he confirmed to me the existence of dark forces at work in your fair village, he also told me that he has sent his angels to watch over you, garbed in the cloak of humanity, to do battle with Lucifer's minions. The final battle may take place here children! The Archangel Gabriel is here amongst you, along with a heavenly host, to do battle on your behalf!

However our Lord has made known to me that he will respect the wishes of his children in all things. If you should cast out an angel from the congregation he will return to the heavens to fight no more. You must choose carefully.

I invite you all to gather tonight on the steps of what will be our glorious cathedral in order to review the day's work and examine the purity of our congregation.

[jeheinz72]

Checking in, I have no idea what the rules are yet, so let me get on that.

Oh, and I'm a stonemason, so don't piss me off or I'll start chucking large rocks at you.

[Danny]

I'll be on after work today. I didn't play in the last cathedral game, but considering the randomness of day 1, is it better if we all work on the cathedral today? Or is it better to split the 1/1?

[Telle]

I'll be on after work today. I didn't play in the last cathedral game, but considering the randomness of day 1, is it better if we all work on the cathedral today? Or is it better to split the 1/1?

If we all work on the cathedral today then doesn't that just make Day 2 into a Day 1? I think it would be best to split them 1/1 except for those who have to put their actions in early and then won't be around for the rest of the day.

[Danny]

Yeah, but can't we put some more pressure on the demons by making the cathedral a more urgent issue for them. As villagers though, we would prefer to kill the demons first and then complete the cathedral or do we have to do it the other way around?

Anyway, I really have to go now.

[Lathum]

IIRC last game we worked heavily on the cathedral and forced the demons to use their night actions to damage the cathedral instead of killing vilagers.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

The baroness is checking in. Please stop bowing and get back to work. I know the Lord is wonderful and nothing is beyond His power, but I have yet to see a cathedral build itself.


Now, where is my maid?!!

[Telle]

Everyone has checked in. Only actions so far are Chief Rum working on the walls twice.

[KWhit]

IIRC last game we worked heavily on the cathedral and forced the demons to use their night actions to damage the cathedral instead of killing vilagers.

That's kind of my thinking. If we make the demons damage the cathedral we buy time and give us more time to catch them in the act. That is assuming we have a kind of witness or spy type role who can potentially see a demon attack the cathedral. Did something like that exist in last game? I don't have any kind of spy ability or anything like that, so I don't want to indicate that I have any inside knowledge that such a thing exists.

[Telle]

IIRC last game we worked heavily on the cathedral and forced the demons to use their night actions to damage the cathedral instead of killing vilagers.

And how did that work out? Were you able to catch all the demons? If possible I'd like to try to get the major victory of both building the cathedral and eliminating all of the demons.

[Barkeep49]

I wasn't in the last game either, but I'm through the first 300 or so posts. There was a Day 1 discussion on "no lynch" and Barkeep chimed in with that quote. I'll find it later today when I've got some time to do sifting.

In the meantime ...
BK - is "no lynch" an option in this game?
Like the last game there will be a lynch. Tiebreakers are in the rules.

[hoopsguy]

That's kind of my thinking. If we make the demons damage the cathedral we buy time and give us more time to catch them in the act. That is assuming we have a kind of witness or spy type role who can potentially see a demon attack the cathedral. Did something like that exist in last game? I don't have any kind of spy ability or anything like that, so I don't want to indicate that I have any inside knowledge that such a thing exists.

I'm fine with some kind of ratio of "two build"/"one build/one vote" being agreed on in the thread. However, I do not really want to see us abandon voting entirely because that is the primary mechanism for catching demons. And I do not want too small a group of people voting because it opens the door for the demons/wolves influencing the move to an even greater extent than most games.

Bottom line - I do not want to get so seduced by the "flavor" of the game that the guts of werewolf are missed. I thought this happened in my Marvel game, and I think it is important to remember that at the end of the day we are rooting out wolves/demons just like the last 87 (give or take) games.

[Lathum]

And how did that work out? Were you able to catch all the demons? If possible I'd like to try to get the major victory of both building the cathedral and eliminating all of the demons.

I dont recall that well to be honest. I think it ended up coming down to some strange happenings with Lucifer and Gabriel IIRC.

[hoopsguy]

Now, after giving that speech if we are going to split into "vote/build" groups I would like to be on the build group.

[Hannibal Lecter]

I'm fine with some kind of ratio of "two build"/"one build/one vote" being agreed on in the thread. However, I do not really want to see us abandon voting entirely because that is the primary mechanism for catching demons. And I do not want too small a group of people voting because it opens the door for the demons/wolves influencing the move to an even greater extent than most games.

Bottom line - I do not want to get so seduced by the "flavor" of the game that the guts of werewolf are missed. I thought this happened in my Marvel game, and I think it is important to remember that at the end of the day we are rooting out wolves/demons just like the last 87 (give or take) games.
sure happened for me! forgot to not get killed :(

[Tyrith]

I'm fine with some kind of ratio of "two build"/"one build/one vote" being agreed on in the thread. However, I do not really want to see us abandon voting entirely because that is the primary mechanism for catching demons. And I do not want too small a group of people voting because it opens the door for the demons/wolves influencing the move to an even greater extent than most games.

Bottom line - I do not want to get so seduced by the "flavor" of the game that the guts of werewolf are missed. I thought this happened in my Marvel game, and I think it is important to remember that at the end of the day we are rooting out wolves/demons just like the last 87 (give or take) games.

Agreed with wholeheartedly. And especially since we're going to be forced to lynch someone (which I would be going for regardless) we need at least some people participating in the process. There's going to have to be a balance.

I don't care too much if I get to vote or not vote today, because I don't know squat about anything at this point, but I'd imagine that's true for about half the people here, and some of us are going to have to vote.

[Telle]

So what do you all think.. half vote and half just build? Should we assign categories randomly or let people choose on their own?

[Tyrith]

So what do you all think.. half vote and half just build? Should we assign categories randomly or let people choose on their own?

People are probably going to wind up doing it themselves throughout the day. I'm not a fan of forcing everyone into a set scheme on day 1 when we don't know anything and it might wind up doing more harm than good, especially when people are going to be in and out.

I say we let people do what they want; we can use it as more information to solve the puzzle later. Enforcing a system gives the excuse "I was only doing what you were telling me to do."

[hoopsguy]

Telle, that ratio makes sense to me. But I'm hoping that others - particularly those who played the first game - will weigh in on it as well.

I would also let people pick their own initially, since the choice itself acts as a data point more than randomly assigning people to groups.

[RendeR]

Here me my people, Being the lord and ruler of this hamlet I am appalled that anyone would think to ignore the evil among us. I believe whole heartedly that we must root out the evil.

I also understand that our ever pious clergyman must have his cathedral erected as soon as possible. hence I will always cast a vote each day. I cannot ignore my duties in protecting my people from harm by throwing all of my efforts into building.

I shall ponder everyone's activities and place my vote later today.

Until that time:

WORK ON WALLS

[RendeR]

That came out a lot more disjointed than it seemed when I typed it....

basic plan, I will work and vote each day.

[hoopsguy]

Hmm - not much discussion. I'm going to put in my first order, to work on the Cathedral. I would like to go there with my second action as well, at least for today, but will hold off on doing so until we have some more discussion.

It sounds like at least Tyrith and RendeR are planning on putting out votes today. Chief will not be, and I think there are a ton of non-committed people out there at this point.

We need 9 on walls to move onto the other areas and have 3 in for this area so far. I'm going to put an order elsewhere for now, but will put my second order toward walls if there doesn't appear to be enough movement in that direction.

WORK ON ARTWORK

[Hannibal Lecter]

WORK ON WALLS

I will be voting with my other vote it looks like :)

[Hannibal Lecter]

Oh, yes and we have a happy hour special down at the cathedral pub!, but only for people who do work!

[Telle]

WORK ON WALLS

I'll most likely be using my other action to vote, unless we end up with a lot of voters.

[RealDeal]

WORK ON WALLS

[Hannibal Lecter]

thats 6 of 9 needed on walls right?

[Telle]

Yep. 6 walls and 1 artwork.

[Hannibal Lecter]

just curious do some people have advantages on certain parts? I mean, will someones work count double on carpentry? or artwork? just curious, we need to make sure we use all benefits to the best of our ability!

[Hannibal Lecter]

did that make sense? im not sure it did :(

[Hannibal Lecter]

How have I made so many posts? :(

[Telle]

If people do have special work advantages, I wouldn't suggest that they announce them.

[Hannibal Lecter]

really? why not? its not like giving up a roll. im saying, if someone does double work on artwork we should know, so we can make sure there is stuff there for them to do!

am I wrong here? its a minor advantage, but one none the less!

[Telle]

Well until roles are revealed I'd think anybody who can do double work would be the first targets for the wolves.

[hoopsguy]

Hannibal, I do not see a lot of value in announcing that type of information now. It could potentially put a target on someone's back for a night kill.

Additionally, the type of role that you are alluding to may have value later in the game when we are doing the math on completed work. I think that has more upside than potentially having an extra unit or two of work on something during the day.

[Hannibal Lecter]

fair enough.

My logic is.... the wolves will kill people they are more worried about rather than someone just because they can do 2X work somewhere.

but I see the reluctance.

[jeheinz72]

Still trying to sort things out, I'm inclined to work and vote once each

[DaddyTorgo]

I am gratified to see so many of you choosing to contribute your labor towards this most impressive monument to Our Lord and Savior. Thank you Baron RendeR for releasing a segment of the populace to this task. It seems that we are close to acquiring a critical mass of work upon the walls of our fine cathedral sufficient to see them raised, and I express my gratitude for this outpouring of work.

Although we have scant evidence upon which to base judgements, are there any among the village whom we wish to cast out? I feel that as the hour approaches slowly and as yet none have made a move in that direction, that perhaps it would be prudent to begin to discuss this possibility, and in particular who we are casting our eyes upon, that they might have opportunity to defend themselves against the charges being leveled against them.

Myself, I am happy to lend my service to either endeavor. I shall wait for the shining wisdom of the Lord to enlighten me as to the path I should best take on this day.

[Telle]

Well there's not a whole lot to go on on Day 1, and since there's penalty for changing your vote (can't work) that makes one less likely to just toss out a random vote.

The only thing that's struck me so far is Hannibal wanting people to reveal if they have special working abilities. However that seems a little ballsy for a wolf play.. so maybe cultist?

[hoopsguy]

I honestly have no idea where to vote at this point. Not much discussion to start working up even a semi-coherent theory.

However, I'll be getting a vote out there in the next couple of hours since I won't be around anywhere near the deadline. It is my wife's birthday today, so I'll be out for the duration when I leave work in order to spend time with her.

[hoopsguy]

Oops - actually will probably not be voting today so as to double up on the cathedral stuff since it looks like we'll have people willing to cast the votes.

FWIW, I fully expect to be voting just about every day from here on out. Not voting on any day feels extremely out of character for me but you play the hand you are dealt.

[DaddyTorgo]

happy birthday hoops'-wife!

[Lathum]

I am thinking 2 things here. The demons are probably going to put in fake work orders, so...

We need 9 for the walls, so do we put in exactly 9 work orders and if we fall shourt look to the people who put the work orders in

or

do we have, say, 12 people do walls to guard against fake work orders?

[hoopsguy]

Lathum, I would probably go with the latter. Not sure if 12 is the magic number, but a number that is a little higher than 9 would probably be prudent.

[Lathum]

Lathum, I would probably go with the latter. Not sure if 12 is the magic number, but a number that is a little higher than 9 would probably be prudent.

so I dont remember fro mthe first game and have no time to look.

If we put in 12 work orders, are we told how many went through, or just that the walls are done?

[hoopsguy]

Don't know, and I just read it yesterday ... getting old :(

I'll try to look it up this afternoon if work cooperates.

[PurdueBrad]

Well I'll help secure things.

work on walls
work on walls

[Barkeep49]

so I dont remember fro mthe first game and have no time to look.

If we put in 12 work orders, are we told how many went through, or just that the walls are done?
Just that it's done.

[Hannibal Lecter]

Lathum, I would probably go with the latter. Not sure if 12 is the magic number, but a number that is a little higher than 9 would probably be prudent.
but if we do this then its wasteful... I think it makes more sense to do enough to get it there... then check out who worked there, if someone fakes!

[Lathum]

but if we do this then its wasteful... I think it makes more sense to do enough to get it there... then check out who worked there, if someone fakes!

well the problem with that is it delays us another day in putting up the roof and windows.

I guess the question we need to ask is do we want to try and root out a wolf, or do we want to finish the cathedral?

[Tyrith]

well the problem with that is it delays us another day in putting up the roof and windows.

I guess the question we need to ask is do we want to try and root out a wolf, or do we want to finish the cathedral?

Ultimately we're going to have to do both.

[Hannibal Lecter]

oh wait... so we need to have the walls finished... but we could work on other stuff without them (art and what not).

(I read the rules too late last night, going to reread.)

[Tyrith]

Problem with the walls today is that if we put exactly nine cycles on the walls then we leave ourselves open to sabotage - and when there are about seven people working it's actually a pretty mild risk for the wolves to take for a pretty decent benefit of delaying us for a day.

It's an even better risk if they think they can manipulate the vote tomorrow to lynch a non-saboteur on the wall team.

[Lathum]

I am off to class.

I am a little busy, but if anyone has the time to keep a running list of who is working on what that could be helpfull in not doubling up on work and work distribution.

I can try and do one later if no one else has time.

[Barkeep49]

Here's what I've got so far:

Shifts submitted:
Walls – Chief Rum (34), Chief Rum (34), Render (68), Hannibal (71),Telle (73), Real (74), Purdue (95), Purdue (95)
Artwork – Hoops (70)

Actions remaining:
Daddy T (2) Jonathan (2) Danny (2) Lathum (2) Tyrtih (2) Hannibal KWhit (2) Pass (2) Alan T (2) Jackal (2) jeheniz (2) Packer (2) RealDeal Telle Render Hoops

[Hannibal Lecter]

Ok reread, yes we need to do the walls before we can do roof and widows... but there is a lot of work from carpentry. I think if we put only 9 on the walls, the wolves wouldn't fake their work, since there are only so mnay people that could have done it. if someone DOES fake it... we still have LOTS of carpentry to do.... so its not like its holding us up a ton~!

[Telle]

Work as of post 98:

artwork - 1 - Hoops
walls - 8 - Hannibal, Chief Rum (twice), Telle, Purdue (twice), Render, RealDeal

[Hannibal Lecter]

and we have 8 people on the walls now.. and 2 are doing double... so that will give us 10 works for 9 needs.... isnt that enough?

[Hannibal Lecter]

oh crap. nvm

[Tyrith]

Ok reread, yes we need to do the walls before we can do roof and widows... but there is a lot of work from carpentry. I think if we put only 9 on the walls, the wolves wouldn't fake their work, since there are only so mnay people that could have done it. if someone DOES fake it... we still have LOTS of carpentry to do.... so its not like its holding us up a ton~!

Ultimately my point is that unless we're willing to overcommit to the walls we need to avoid assuming that the walls will be fixed tomorrow.

[Tyrith]

After what I just said I don't particularly want to be on the walls right now.

WORK ON ARTWORK

[KWhit]

Okay. I want to work on the cathedral today and I have no idea who to vote for, so:

Work on Walls
Work on Walls

[KWhit]

Ack.

I meant to say carpentry.... Can I change that BK?

[RendeR]

BK, if say tomorrow, we have 8 units on the walls, can we then get 1 input on the walls and start working on the roof at that point or do the walls have to be finished overnight to move forward?

[Hannibal Lecter]

Ultimately my point is that unless we're willing to overcommit to the walls we need to avoid assuming that the walls will be fixed tomorrow.
im fine with that, but we don't need to really stress about it today, now if it inst done tomorrow then maybe....

[Hannibal Lecter]

And that is now 10 units on the walls, assuming Kwhitt cant change...

[PurdueBrad]

Sorry for not putting it in color BK, my bad.

[PackerFanatic]

Alright...it looks like we have more than enough for the walls (hopefully), so I will look elsewhere with my work. I am also going to get some action going with the votes. We shouldn't focus on just one thing (either work or votes), since like others have said, then tomorrow is another day 1 in terms of voting - and no one likes day 1's in terms of voting :) Sooo...

WORK ON CARPENTRY
VOTE HANNIBAL

He is the innkeeper, I am the vagrant, naturally I don't like him ;)

[Hannibal Lecter]

JERK!

[Telle]

Well I'm heading home and want to get a vote in now since I'm not sure I'll get on again this evening.

VOTE HANNIBAL

As I mentioned earlier, he's the only one I have even the slightest suspicion of. It's not much, but this is Day 1 and we don't really have anything to go on.

[jeheinz72]

WORK ON CARPENTRY

[Hannibal Lecter]

Jerk too!

[jeheinz72]

Welcome back holmes.

Vote Passacaglia

[Tyrith]

Second consecutive vote on a random target D1 usually somewhat stinks to me, personally. The fact that Telle won't be able to defend herself gives me pause, though. Eh, I might change this later.

VOTE TELLE

[RendeR]

Hrm, not much going on right now, MORE WORK YOU SERFS!

[Barkeep49]

Ack.

I meant to say carpentry.... Can I change that BK?
I don't understand. There is no carpentry area. If you meant a different place (e.g.) I will let you change it this time.
BK, if say tomorrow, we have 8 units on the walls, can we then get 1 input on the walls and start working on the roof at that point or do the walls have to be finished overnight to move forward?

Yes that's fine. Of course if someone were to fake that shift, then you would lose any shifts invested in the other areas.

[Barkeep49]

Doh. I forgot that there was a carpentry. KWhit is working on the carpentry.

[Barkeep49]

Here's what I have. I found one error I made already so please do make sure I haven't made others.

Votes:
Hannibal – Packer (116), Telle (118)
Pass – jeheinz (121)
Telle – Tyrith (122)

Shifts submitted:
Walls – Chief Rum (34), Chief Rum (34), Render (68), Hannibal (71),Telle (73), Real (74), Purdue (95), Purdue (95), KWhit (110), KWHit (110)
Artwork – Hoops (70), Tyrith (109),
Carpentry – KWhit (110), KWhit (110), Packer (116),

Actions remaining:
Daddy T (2) Jonathan (2) Danny (2) Lathum (2) Hannibal Pass (2) Alan T (2) Jackal (2) jeheniz RealDeal (2) Telle (2) Render (2) Hoops (2)

[Lathum]

BK- when updating who is working on what can you put how many units of work are commited to each one?

Thanks.

[jeheinz72]

Here's what I have. I found one error I made already so please do make sure I haven't made others.

Votes:
Hannibal – Packer (116), Telle (118)
Pass – jeheinz (121)
Telle – Tyrith (122)

Shifts submitted:
Walls – Chief Rum (34), Chief Rum (34), Render (68), Hannibal (71),Telle (73), Real (74), Purdue (95), Purdue (95), KWhit (110), KWHit (110)
Artwork – Hoops (70), Tyrith (109),
Carpentry – KWhit (110), KWhit (110), Packer (116),

Actions remaining:
Daddy T (2) Jonathan (2) Danny (2) Lathum (2) Hannibal Pass (2) Alan T (2) Jackal (2) jeheniz RealDeal (2) Telle (2) Render (2) Hoops (2)

BK - You missed my work on carpentry in post 119, fyi.

[Lathum]

OK, so according to my calculations if you subtract KWhit from walls we have 8 people working on them.

Can you confirm BK?

If we are at 8 I think we should have 1 more person work on walls and see if a demon sabotouges the work

[Barkeep49]

Revised actions:
Shifts submitted:
Walls – Chief Rum (34), Chief Rum (34), Render (68), Hannibal (71),Telle (73), Real (74), Purdue (95), Purdue (95),
Artwork – Hoops (70), Tyrith (109),
Carpentry – KWhit (110), KWhit (110), Packer (116), Jeheinz (119(

[Lathum]

OK< so we have 8 walls right now.

Does anyone else think we should only have 1 other worker do alls, or even better, someone who has only worked on theem once double up?

[Alan T]

OK< so we have 8 walls right now.

Does anyone else think we should only have 1 other worker do alls, or even better, someone who has only worked on theem once double up?


I am still catching up on the thread, but based on BK's lists, Chief and Purdue have already doubled up on them. Telle has already voted as a second action. I assume Hannibal will vote to try to save himself with his second action so that leaves RealDeal and Render. Render has stated he plans on using his second action to vote.

I think ideally having Render or Real doubleup makes the most sense to keep the number of possible saboteurs to a minimum. That would leave less candidates to track down if one does choose to sabotage.

I plan on using both of my actions on the cathedral today. If neither Render or RealDeal want to double up, I don't have any problem putting one or both actions into it. (to go over and make sure it is completed even).

[jeheinz72]

I'd agree that one of them doubling-up would be ideal

[Lathum]

well OK, lets wait and try and hear from one of them if they are willing to.

[The Jackal]

WORK ON CARPENTRY

[The Jackal]

Haven't decided what to do with my second action yet, if there's a place that needs more work let me know.

[Alan T]

Well, I waited around as long as I could. I may be back tonight, but I doubt it. So going to go ahead and put in work where I feel it benefits us the most. Making sure the walls are finished. If they end up not being completed tonight, it still is a small group of possible people who faked the work. For my second work, I chose the Artwork, if that gets faked there are only two people who could have done it.

WORK ON WALLS
WORK ON ARTWORK

[RealDeal]

Basically, Day 1 voting seems to be a complete waste to me. We can get more information if everyone works. If everyone works, eventually the wolves will have to start faking, and we can start figuring out who is the wolf based on comparing work orders to work accomplished. And, it's actually better info than day 1 votes, which are based on zero info. Plus work is productive, while votes basically are lost opportunities at work.

Anybody who's trying to get someone voted off on Day 1 under this set of rules is suspicious to me, because it's counterproductive.

WORK ON ARTWORK

This is in addition to my earlier order to work on the walls.

[Lathum]

OK, thats 9 for walls.

I dont think anyone else should work on walls today.

Everyone agree?

[RendeR]

Yes Good sir, you are correct. No more work on the walls today my people.

[Lathum]

Work on Artwork
Vote Telle

lets see what this brings

[Danny]

I'm here. I guess with the split I should end up working with 1 point and voting with the other. Where's my work needed most?

[DaddyTorgo]

Yes Good sir, you are correct. No more work on the walls today my people.

Ahem. I believe Baron RendeR that it is my Cathedral. Your sudden interest in it is appreciated, however I do not believe that in this instance your word is law.

just being IC :)

I find myself confronted by the question of what my actions ought to be to best benefit you, my flock. I must retire to my chambers and pray for the Lord's guidance at this point.

[Danny]

Hmm, looks like Carpentry will be where I put my work and my vote, I do not know.

[DaddyTorgo]

I find it most curious that RealDeal is so adamant against removing a parishioner from our midst today. I have sanctioned this course of action, and our Lord and Savior has spoken to me and declared that whether or not we voluntarily remove a parishioner each day, one will be removed for us through some mechanism. Therefore I find it only logical that we exercise our prudent judgment in deciding whom that person should be.

[Danny]

Work on Carpentry

[Danny]

What do we have as far as actions left?

[DaddyTorgo]

i have both of my actions left

[Passacaglia]

(ooc) Me too (/ooc)

(ic) I'll trade you mine! (/ic)

[RealDeal]

We have 18 people in the game. If we all just used our turns building on Day 1, we'd have almost half of the cathedral done in one day.

I haven't played in a while, but I think people know how well Day 1 lynchings turn out. In most cases, we don't have a choice. In this case we do: we can do something useful and still gain information.

[Barkeep49]

Here's what I have. I will be leaving shortly and be back right at deadline. It would help if someone could have an accurate count so I can process lynch a little quicker.


Votes:
Hannibal – Packer (116), Telle (118)
Pass – jeheinz (121)
Telle – Tyrith (122), Lathum (141)

Walls – Chief Rum (34), Chief Rum (34), Render (68), Hannibal (71),Telle (73), Real (74), Purdue (95), Purdue (95), Alan (137)
Artwork – Hoops (70), Tyrith (109), Alan (137), Real (138), Lathum (141)
Carpentry – KWhit (110), KWhit (110), Packer (116), Jeheinz (119), Jackal (135), Danny (146)

Actions remaining:
Daddy T (2) Jonathan (2) Danny (1) Hannibal Pass (2) Alan T (2) Jackal (1) RealDeal (1) Telle (2) Render (2) Hoops (2)

[RealDeal]

Barkeep: You have me working on walls and artwork, which is correct. But you have me as having a turn left which is obviously incorrect.

[The Jackal]

WORK ON ARTWORK

[Danny]

Hmmm, not much discussion going so far

[DaddyTorgo]

WORK ON ARTWORK (1)

[RendeR]

I hate ties, ties are the ropes that trip us into falling on our faces. I shalt not abide a tie. VOTE HANNIBAL

[RendeR]

*grumbles, my stupid editor isn't working right again.*

[Danny]

I hate ties, ties are the ropes that trip us into falling on our faces. I shalt not abide a tie. VOTE HANNIBAL

I don't understand this reasoning at all. A tie still results in a lynch. I'd rather see this lynch close so we will have a more meaningful voting record going forward.

Vote Telle

[RendeR]

I don't understand this reasoning at all. A tie still results in a lynch. I'd rather see this lynch close so we will have a more meaningful voting record going forward.

Vote Telle

I just really hate ties, and I flipped a coin.

[Danny]

There's still plenty of actions left, so I assume someone will break the tie.

[Hannibal Lecter]

that would be a good bet :D

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm holding an action for later just in case there's some monkey-business or something

[Danny]

I seriously doubt I'll be switching my vote. I used to shy away from people who posted about not being able to come back online after an early vote, but after last game I don't think I'm willing to give those people a pass early anymore. That said, I don't really feel any stronger about her or Hannibal.

[Hannibal Lecter]

its kinda scarry how many actions are still out there.... and telle is in the house!

[Danny]

its kinda scarry how many actions are still out there.... and telle is in the house!

Seriously, there better not be any actions leftover after deadline.

[Hannibal Lecter]

thromkal in the house!

[Danny]

It's obviously a bit early, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a demon or two out of those who doubled up early on the cathedral.

[Telle]

Well I decided I was sick of working on reading so I've showed up for the deadline. And looks like I'm tied for the lead.. fun.

[Danny]

Actions remaining:
Daddy T (1) Jonathan (2) Hannibal (1) Pass (2) RealDeal (1) Render (2) Hoops (1)

Barkeep's list was actually fairly inaccurate, this should be right based on all of the actions he has listed and the new ones.

[DaddyTorgo]

Okay I believe this is correct ??


Votes:
Hannibal – Packer (116), Telle (118), RendeR (156)
Pass – jeheinz (121)
Telle – Tyrith (122), Lathum (141), Danny (158)

Walls – Chief Rum (34), Chief Rum (34), Render (68), Hannibal (71),Telle (73), Real (74), Purdue (95), Purdue (95), Alan (137)
Artwork – Hoops (70), Tyrith (109), Alan (137), Real (138), Lathum (141), Jackal (153), DaddyTorgo (155)
Carpentry – KWhit (110), KWhit (110), Packer (116), Jeheinz (119), Jackal (135), Danny (146)

Actions remaining:
Daddy T (1) Jonathan (2) Hannibal (1) Pass (2) Alan T (2) Telle (2) Render (1) Hoops (2)

[RendeR]

I don't have any actions left.

[RendeR]

Back in a few, gotta shut down classrooms

[DaddyTorgo]

Fixed with Danny's "actions left"

Okay I believe this is correct ??


Votes:
Hannibal – Packer (116), Telle (118), RendeR (156)
Pass – jeheinz (121)
Telle – Tyrith (122), Lathum (141), Danny (158)

Walls – Chief Rum (34), Chief Rum (34), Render (68), Hannibal (71),Telle (73), Real (74), Purdue (95), Purdue (95), Alan (137)
Artwork – Hoops (70), Tyrith (109), Alan (137), Real (138), Lathum (141), Jackal (153), DaddyTorgo (155)
Carpentry – KWhit (110), KWhit (110), Packer (116), Jeheinz (119), Jackal (135), Danny (146)

Actions remaining:
Daddy T (1) Jonathan (2) Hannibal (1) Pass (2) RealDeal (1) Render (2) Hoops (1)

[Danny]

Also Alan T has no actions, Telle has no actions and Hoops has 1 actions left.

[Telle]

As of post 168:

3 - Hannibal - PackerFanatic (116), Telle (118), RendeR (156)
3 - Telle - Tyrith (122), Lathum (141), Danny (158)
1 - Passacaglia - jeheinz (121)

walls - 9 - Hannibal, Chief Rum (x2), Telle, Purdue (x2), Alan T, Render, RealDeal
carpentry - 6 - Danny, Jackal, Packer, KWhit (x2), jeheinz
artwork - 7 - Hoops, Jackal, Lathum, Tyrith, Daddy T, Alan T, RealDeal

actions remaining:
Hoops(1), Hannibal(1), Pass(2), Daddy T(1), Jonathan(2)

[DaddyTorgo]

this is a PITA!!!

Votes:
Hannibal – Packer (116), Telle (118), RendeR (156)
Pass – jeheinz (121)
Telle – Tyrith (122), Lathum (141), Danny (158)

Walls – Chief Rum (34), Chief Rum (34), Render (68), Hannibal (71),Telle (73), Real (74), Purdue (95), Purdue (95), Alan (137)
Artwork – Hoops (70), Tyrith (109), Alan (137), Real (138), Lathum (141), Jackal (153), DaddyTorgo (155)
Carpentry – KWhit (110), KWhit (110), Packer (116), Jeheinz (119), Jackal (135), Danny (146)

Actions remaining:
Daddy T (1) Jonathan (2) Hannibal (1) Pass (2) Hoops (1)

[DaddyTorgo]

i am debating whether i want to choose between telle and hannibal or just leave it up to the whims of fate and do work with my other action

the lack of anything by jonathan is worrisome

[Danny]

And I guess Render doesn't have any either, so that puts us at 28 actions, with 8 left, so that should be perfect as there are 36 total actions available.

[Passacaglia]

Wait, I think I have 5 actions left. Something got messed up again.

[Danny]

Dt's latest looks right. DT, just keep in mind that Hannibal has his vote left, so unless someone else votes, a non vote is basically a vote for Telle.

[Danny]

Wait, I think I have 5 actions left. Something got messed up again.

Yeah and I have 42 actions left.

Work on everything

Game over, yay!

[Passacaglia]

Dt's latest looks right. DT, just keep in mind that Hannibal has his vote left, so unless someone else votes, a non vote is basically a vote for Telle.

Not only that, even if Hannibal doesn't show up, the tiebreaker rules are mentioned.

[Passacaglia]

nm, Hannibal is here

Anyway, I agree that no vote basically lynches Telle unless something screwy happens. But the bonus is that work gets done on the cathedral.

[Hannibal Lecter]

vote tell

sorry telle :(

[Thomkal]

thromkal in the house!

don't mind me, just visiting this quaint town of St. Saldana. Since I don't live here, I can understand why you spelled my name wrong. :lol:

(not playing)

[Telle]

Well most of those with actions left are in the thread right now.. so things should get interesting between now and deadline.

[Passacaglia]

Telle, any last arguments?

[Danny]

Which is the longest held mean vote, so the tie would be a Hannibal lynch.

[Telle]

vote tell

sorry telle :(


No you're not.. if you were really sorry you'd vote for yourself :)

[Jonathan Ezarik]

i am debating whether i want to choose between telle and hannibal or just leave it up to the whims of fate and do work with my other action

the lack of anything by jonathan is worrisome

I've also been debating what to do and that is why I haven't done anything yet. With the restrictions placed on declared actions, I want to make sure I'm completely satisfied with my decisions.

I know I'm going to perform one action on the cathedral (probably artwork), but I don't know what to do with my second action. Part of me wants to vote, but I really don't care for either Telle or Hannibal as a target. Unfortunately, I don't have any idea on a replacement target.

[Telle]

Telle, any last arguments?

The only thing anyone seems to be holding against me is that I voted for someone a half hour after someone else did.. based on reasoning that I posted earlier in the thread. Sooo.. not much, really.

In my favor.. ummmmm.. I'm really good at putting up the post count, so I'm helpful :)

[Danny]

The only thing anyone seems to be holding against me is that I voted for someone a half hour after someone else did.. based on reasoning that I posted earlier in the thread. Sooo.. not much, really.

In my favor.. ummmmm.. I'm really good at putting up the post count, so I'm helpful :)

There's not much for either one of you. Basically you were the only two that did anything that could be considered wolfish. A quick 2nd vote in your case and encouragement for some minor reveals in Hannibal's case. Either way a voting record helps the village, even if you're both good.

[Telle]

There's not much for either one of you. Basically you were the only two that did anything that could be considered wolfish. A quick 2nd vote in your case and encouragement for some minor reveals in Hannibal's case. Either way a voting record helps the village, even if you're both good.

But it wasn't quick! It was a half hour later and right before I was leaving for work.. basically as late as I could make it since I wasn't sure I'd be getting online tonight (I generally prefer voting later rather than earlier).

[DaddyTorgo]

WORK ON CARPENTRY

[Danny]

I know, it's small. But there is nothing to go on for day 1, so even the slightest thing can stand out. I don't believe you are any more likely to be bad than Hannibal, but I'm not switching my vote because I have no idea about either of you.

[Passacaglia]

Well I feel like I have reasons to suspect both, but they're nothing more than hunches, not worth making a choice on when I can be helping for sure in another way.

WORK ON ARTWORK
WORK ON ARTWORK

[Telle]

Ok, that's it.. there's not enough time or actions left to sit on this any longer. I'm St. Gabriel! Quit voting for me!

[Hannibal Lecter]

and we cant unvote
shit
!

[Danny]

Of course we can.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

WORK ON ARTWORK

VOTE HANNIBAL

[Telle]

Yeah but Jonathon still has 2 actions left.. and Hoops has 1 if he ever shows up.

[Danny]

You just can't unvote and then work on the cathedral.

[Passacaglia]

Ok, that's it.. there's not enough time or actions left to sit on this any longer. I'm St. Gabriel! Quit voting for me!

No way. I outright asked if you had any final arguments earlier.

[Hannibal Lecter]

ic ic... and how long can the BG protect telle now?

[Danny]

Unvote Telle
Vote Hannibal

I'm sorry Hannibal, but I in case Telle is telling the truth I have to do this.

[Telle]

No way. I outright asked if you had any final arguments earlier.

Yeah but I didn't want to out with it until I HAD to!

[Passacaglia]

JE, I think you should switch -- I personally don't buy this.

[Passacaglia]

Yeah but I didn't want to out with it until I HAD to!

What did you think final meant?

[Hannibal Lecter]

well i do buy it... but only one night of BG prtection

[Hannibal Lecter]

:(

[Hannibal Lecter]

gg all :(
lucky day one for the wolves.

[Telle]

What did you think final meant?

There was still time left at that point. I was hoping to reveal before your vote.. but was late by like a minute.

[henry296]

From the rules. Sorry this is past deadline.


Once a player votes they may unvote and choose a different player to vote for but they may not work on the Cathederal.

You can't change from work to vote but can unvote.

[Hannibal Lecter]

so am i dead or not?

[Passacaglia]

There was still time left at that point. I was hoping to reveal before your vote.. but was late by like a minute.

The way your post reads, it seemed like my work, which we agreed further damned you, was what made you finally decide to come out with it.

[Danny]

I imagine you will be, but you can post up until Barkeep processes the result I would think.

[Telle]

The way your post reads, it seemed like my work, which we agreed further damned you, was what made you finally decide to come out with it.

Yeah, that put a bit of panic to me. I didn't say I was posting at the same time. I was about ready to post.. hit refresh one more time.. then went "Oh shit".

[RendeR]

Damn

[Hannibal Lecter]

yeah damb sucks to be me!

[RendeR]

Bye bye hannibal, go not softly into that dark night, fight, fight against the dying of the light....

[Danny]

In Telle's defense, both you and DT used your actions there. I could see someone panicking at that point with basically only Jonathan left who already said he wasn't too likely to vote for Telle or Hannibal.

[RendeR]

Oh wait I'm not the musician this game....

[RendeR]

Heading home, will read more there.

[Passacaglia]

Yeah, that put a bit of panic to me. I didn't say I was posting at the same time. I was about ready to post.. hit refresh one more time.. then went "Oh shit".

Ah, I see. I guess if you really wanted to reveal, you would have come out with that when I asked, instead of waiting 10 minutes more.

[Hannibal Lecter]

also note now the walls arent done :(

[Danny]

yeah damb sucks to be me!

Yeah, I'm not convinced Telle is telling the truth, but that will probably be sorted out within a couple days.

[DaddyTorgo]

SHIT! I was just like "well there's not a reason to vote one or the other so i'll just use my other action on work" i hope we don't lose you gabriel

[Telle]

Ah, I see. I guess if you really wanted to reveal, you would have come out with that when I asked, instead of waiting 10 minutes more.

Well no, I DIDN'T really want to reveal. I was hoping against hope that I the votes would go in such a way that I didn't have to.

[Danny]

also note now the walls arent done :(

I don't see why your work still wouldn't go through, you did it before you would have died.

[PackerFanatic]

*waits patiently*

[Hannibal Lecter]

hes not even here! IM ALIVE!!!!!

[Danny]

At least you led the day in posts! But now you get to slowly watch people pass you :(.

[Hannibal Lecter]

yeah, its always like that :(

[Hannibal Lecter]

hmm, just a thouhgt, not sure if the duke needs to have his action in yet.... but you might wanna go ahead and duke this one...

[Hannibal Lecter]

but im dead
so shit.

[Hannibal Lecter]

good night all, im going ot bed!

[Hannibal Lecter]

Henry!!!! Collins! come back and play again! :D

[Hannibal Lecter]

at what point do my posts just become annoying?

[Danny]

Goodnight, your death is an unfortunate loss to our community. Your death will not be in veign.

[DaddyTorgo]

lol

[RealDeal]

at what point do my posts just become annoying?

Don't worry about it. It's a sacred right of all werewolf players to spam posts right before they are lynched.

[PackerFanatic]

He is just trying to pad his count since he gets no more after tonight...sorry, HL, don't think you will be able to pad enough, heh.

[Danny]

I think the only leftover actions was 1 by hoops. Surprised he would of all people would have an unused actions point.

[henry296]

I'd like to play, but I've lost access at work and I'm too busy when I get home with two young children.

[DaddyTorgo]

I honestly have no idea where to vote at this point. Not much discussion to start working up even a semi-coherent theory.

However, I'll be getting a vote out there in the next couple of hours since I won't be around anywhere near the deadline. It is my wife's birthday today, so I'll be out for the duration when I leave work in order to spend time with her.

this from earlier this afternoon

[RendeR]

Barkeep isn't even in thread so we'll be waiting awhile.

[Danny]

Oh, Wife's birthday comes first. Still, will give him a hard time about it later though.

[Barkeep49]

Sorry one of my parents was VERY late picking up their child. Here's my vote count:
Hannibal – Packer (116), Telle (118), Render (156), Jonathan (200), Danny (205)
Pass – jeheinz (121)
Telle – Tyrith (122), Lathum (141), Hannibal (184)

If you disagree disagree now while I write stuff up.

[Danny]

He is now

[Danny]

Looks correct to me