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azcardsfan81 · 10-31-2008, 02:28 AM

Hey guys whats up latly my brother keeps beating me in franchise with dual hb package pa passes and I can't stop it... Even when I try to cover him manually he will still get 5 yards everytime and it's real annoying. So is their like um any good defense play or playbook I should use to stop this thanks

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TheVinylHippo · 10-31-2008, 03:17 AM

I had this problem with a guy using Ohio State. He had Brandon Saine at FB running to the flats and play-action with Beanie Wells in the I-formation. I was using Missouri, so it was tough to stop. I ended up losing 28-21 because of this play being abused left and right.

This was one of the few times I forgot to go to my favorite defense in the game, the 4-2-5. I like the 4-3, but the 4-2-5 is my favorite. When someone's abusing this, I run my linebackers with a flat zone, but they need to be fast. It's a risk, but sometimes I'll blitz both of the corners and see if they'll pick it off and go for 6. Need good safety though.

thelasthurtknee · 10-31-2008, 12:49 PM

straight up cover 2 out of 4-3 over. its not a good thing if they run screen on this d but i never have a problem with the flats when im in it. spread out you dline and slant them out. they will contain. you will be open up the gut so cover that with you mlb and if you see screen you have to take it down on your own with the mlb. when i play online i only play on heisman and this removes alot of the easy (Wide Open) plays that you can always run on AA.

m00d · 11-01-2008, 12:45 AM

3-3-5 split cover 2... If he likes to run his QB hot route the DE's to contain... If not, spread the line and rush out... You will pick the flat passes. Play FS and watch the deep ball...

Bucksfan7 · 11-01-2008, 03:13 AM

I just played a guy online who played like this. All he did was pass to his HB's out of the backfield. And if i covered them he just ran around with his QB till a WR got open or one of his HB's got away from me. I dont normally quit(my dnf % is 8% from lost connections), but going into the 4th i was down 28-14 with him having the ball.

Plus he put LBs at DE, i swear this LB had 90 speed cause i got sacked like 4 times by him.

Then he proceeded to message me calling me profane names. I bet he's like 13. Probably one of the worst cheesers(top 3 atleast) ive played online, so far.

But i hear cover 2 works to stop the HBs out of the backfield, but it also makes you vunerable down field if the guy just runs around in the backfield 10-20 yards deep.

Young J 334 · 11-01-2008, 03:26 AM

Im quick with my defensive hot routes so for guys that cheese like this i run a 5-2, cover 2 man. Crazy huh? I hot route my DEs to the flat, put the two LBs in the pink zones (buzz I think), spy the middle DT, and contain with the outside 2 DEs. Make sure you keep the two safeties in deep zones and CBs in man. Stops flats, scramblers, and passes across the middle. Its vulnerable to runs up the middle and WR curls but covers virtually anything else.

If that doesnt work try the 3 deep zone in Quarters. The DEs automatically contain, 2 CBs are in te flats, 2 remaining CBs and Lb are in the yellow zone. Hot route the LB to spy

azcardsfan81 · 11-01-2008, 03:29 AM

hey guys thanks for the advice i will try these against him when we play a franchise game tommorow i'm so due to beat him, i've won a few online and the advice you guys gave me really helped. Pluse 4-2-5 is a real nice defense just used this against someone and had 4 picks one for a td

. But the advice you guys gave me should help it sucks when your on a long losing streak vs someone who you know you can beat...

Young J 334 · 11-01-2008, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by azcardsfan81


	hey guys thanks for the advice i will try these against him when we play a franchise game tommorow i'm so due to beat him, i've won a few online and the advice you guys gave me really helped. Pluse 4-2-5 is a real nice defense just used this against someone and had 4 picks one for a td . But the advice you guys gave me should help it sucks when your on a long losing streak vs someone who you know you can beat...

No prob man. Good luck. Melt his cheese, crush his pride, break his heart, and shatter his cheesy a** ego

10-31-2008, 02:28 AM	#1
azcardsfan81 Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: Jul 2008	does anyone have a good defense for pa to hb on dual hb Hey guys whats up latly my brother keeps beating me in franchise with dual hb package pa passes and I can't stop it... Even when I try to cover him manually he will still get 5 yards everytime and it's real annoying. So is their like um any good defense play or playbook I should use to stop this thanks .

10-31-2008, 03:17 AM	#2
TheVinylHippo MVP OVR: 7 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas	Re: does anyone have a good defense for pa to hb on dual hb I had this problem with a guy using Ohio State. He had Brandon Saine at FB running to the flats and play-action with Beanie Wells in the I-formation. I was using Missouri, so it was tough to stop. I ended up losing 28-21 because of this play being abused left and right. This was one of the few times I forgot to go to my favorite defense in the game, the 4-2-5. I like the 4-3, but the 4-2-5 is my favorite. When someone's abusing this, I run my linebackers with a flat zone, but they need to be fast. It's a risk, but sometimes I'll blitz both of the corners and see if they'll pick it off and go for 6. Need good safety though.

10-31-2008, 12:49 PM	#3
thelasthurtknee MVP OVR: 12 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lafayette, La	Re: does anyone have a good defense for pa to hb on dual hb straight up cover 2 out of 4-3 over. its not a good thing if they run screen on this d but i never have a problem with the flats when im in it. spread out you dline and slant them out. they will contain. you will be open up the gut so cover that with you mlb and if you see screen you have to take it down on your own with the mlb. when i play online i only play on heisman and this removes alot of the easy (Wide Open) plays that you can always run on AA.

11-01-2008, 12:45 AM	#4
m00d Pro OVR: 7 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Corinth, MS	Re: does anyone have a good defense for pa to hb on dual hb 3-3-5 split cover 2... If he likes to run his QB hot route the DE's to contain... If not, spread the line and rush out... You will pick the flat passes. Play FS and watch the deep ball... __________________ Camper Tube

11-01-2008, 03:13 AM	#5
Bucksfan7 Pro OVR: 5 Join Date: Aug 2004	Re: does anyone have a good defense for pa to hb on dual hb I just played a guy online who played like this. All he did was pass to his HB's out of the backfield. And if i covered them he just ran around with his QB till a WR got open or one of his HB's got away from me. I dont normally quit(my dnf % is 8% from lost connections), but going into the 4th i was down 28-14 with him having the ball. Plus he put LBs at DE, i swear this LB had 90 speed cause i got sacked like 4 times by him. Then he proceeded to message me calling me profane names. I bet he's like 13. Probably one of the worst cheesers(top 3 atleast) ive played online, so far. But i hear cover 2 works to stop the HBs out of the backfield, but it also makes you vunerable down field if the guy just runs around in the backfield 10-20 yards deep.

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11-01-2008, 03:26 AM	#6
Young J 334 MVP OVR: 16 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Alabama	Re: does anyone have a good defense for pa to hb on dual hb Im quick with my defensive hot routes so for guys that cheese like this i run a 5-2, cover 2 man. Crazy huh? I hot route my DEs to the flat, put the two LBs in the pink zones (buzz I think), spy the middle DT, and contain with the outside 2 DEs. Make sure you keep the two safeties in deep zones and CBs in man. Stops flats, scramblers, and passes across the middle. Its vulnerable to runs up the middle and WR curls but covers virtually anything else. If that doesnt work try the 3 deep zone in Quarters. The DEs automatically contain, 2 CBs are in te flats, 2 remaining CBs and Lb are in the yellow zone. Hot route the LB to spy __________________ Young J 334 Madden Favs: Ravens, Saints, Eagles, Giants and the Cowboys

11-01-2008, 03:29 AM	#7
azcardsfan81 Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: Jul 2008	Re: does anyone have a good defense for pa to hb on dual hb hey guys thanks for the advice i will try these against him when we play a franchise game tommorow i'm so due to beat him, i've won a few online and the advice you guys gave me really helped. Pluse 4-2-5 is a real nice defense just used this against someone and had 4 picks one for a td . But the advice you guys gave me should help it sucks when your on a long losing streak vs someone who you know you can beat...

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