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Kefka · 08-13-2011, 01:25 AM

So I'm playing a game with my friend offline. It's upwards of 42-40 for him, something like that. 1:30 left in the 4th. I throw a pass and complete to his 30, and have a clear path to the goal line. I fall with my player at the 20 , as he has no time outs. I run the clock and kick a game winner.

He says its bad form and stupid, as in real life they'd go into the endzone. I asserted that since our defenses were non existent in this game, why would I give him the ball back with a chance to win with 1:20~ left in the game? Instead of just run the clock and kick an easy short FG to win?

Thoughts?

jeremym480 · 08-13-2011, 01:35 AM

Show your friend these:

I rest your case.

TheDirt · 08-13-2011, 01:48 AM

I voted no but I will say that if it's not a game in a dynasty or something I'd probably just go ahead and score. The game would be more exciting that way.

Obviously if the game "matters" your play is the right play to make.

cparrish · 08-13-2011, 02:14 AM

I voted no. That is just smart football. Why in the world would you let him have the ball back if you haven't stopped him all game?

With my friends and I, if we are in a random online game against each other, we will just score because the game doesn't mean anything, but if it is our OD, we will kneel the ball at the end of the game to secure the win.

Bullet Sponge · 08-13-2011, 03:38 AM

I also say no. There's some inherent risk there, especially if you have to run another play or to line up the field goal or whatever. You could get called for a penalty, fumble, etc.

I find it becomes a fine art trying to milk the clock perfectly at the end of the half/game against the CPU who always seems to be able to drive 80 yards in 35 seconds.

dochalladay32 · 08-13-2011, 03:45 AM

I'm glad to see all no's. Your friend is just mad that you didn't give him a chance to score. He'd probably complain if his favorite team in real life scored, and then watched the opponent return the kickoff for touchdown and possibly the win.

Hiro1 · 08-13-2011, 04:04 AM

Smart football yes. Bad taste Yea. Its kinda like how Some MMA fighters who are wrestlers. just take their opponent to the ground and lay on them all fight.

PowerofRed25 · 08-13-2011, 05:02 AM

Absolutely not, I've done shadier things than that to run out the clock at the end of a tight game, but they are all things I have seen done in actual games.

Last year, I had a huge user vs user game in an OD to determine a spot in a conference title game. I had been up 3 with about 40 seconds left, deep in my own territory after picking off a pass at the goal line and running it to like the 10. He still had all 2 timeouts, so I took 2 knees to burn them and took a third knee on 3rd down before calling a timeout myself when the clock burned to 1 on the play clock and 7 on the game clock.

Having been prepared for this very situation since the beginning of the year, I called Fake Punt Pass on 4th down with a RB formation subbed in at punter. Snapped it, let the time run out and stepped out the back of the endzone for a safety to end the game and win by 1.

No way in hell was I risking a punt, no matter how hard it is to return them and I didn't want to risk shanking one trying to aim it out of bounds and have him be in FG or hail mary range.

As for your situation, I've done the same thing many times. Smart football.

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08-13-2011, 01:25 AM	#1
Kefka Rookie OVR: 1 Join Date: Jul 2011	Is this cheese? bad form? So I'm playing a game with my friend offline. It's upwards of 42-40 for him, something like that. 1:30 left in the 4th. I throw a pass and complete to his 30, and have a clear path to the goal line. I fall with my player at the 20 , as he has no time outs. I run the clock and kick a game winner. He says its bad form and stupid, as in real life they'd go into the endzone. I asserted that since our defenses were non existent in this game, why would I give him the ball back with a chance to win with 1:20~ left in the game? Instead of just run the clock and kick an easy short FG to win? Thoughts?

08-13-2011, 01:35 AM	#2
jeremym480 Speak it into existence OVR: 39 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Prairieville, LA Posts: 18,228	Re: Is this cheese? bad form? Show your friend these: I rest your case. DukeC, TDenverFan, Fredonia and 2 others like this. __________________ My 2K17 Boston Celtics MyLeague Alabama Crimson Tide Green Bay Packers Boston Celtics New Orleans Pelicans

08-13-2011, 01:48 AM	#3
TheDirt Rookie OVR: 3 Join Date: Jun 2004	Re: Is this cheese? bad form? I voted no but I will say that if it's not a game in a dynasty or something I'd probably just go ahead and score. The game would be more exciting that way. Obviously if the game "matters" your play is the right play to make. __________________ "We must view with profound respect the infinite capacity of the human mind to resist the introduction of useful knowledge." - Thomas Raynesford Lounsbury (American scholar and educator, 1838-1915)

08-13-2011, 02:14 AM	#4
cparrish MVP OVR: 20 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Colorado Blog Entries: 2	Re: Is this cheese? bad form? I voted no. That is just smart football. Why in the world would you let him have the ball back if you haven't stopped him all game? With my friends and I, if we are in a random online game against each other, we will just score because the game doesn't mean anything, but if it is our OD, we will kneel the ball at the end of the game to secure the win. __________________ BuffEye Rosters available on the Xbox 360 and PS3. The most in-depth roster for NCAA 14 and beyond. Xbox 360: BuffEye Rosters PS3: BuffEyeRosters Last edited by cparrish; 08-13-2011 at 05:26 AM.

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08-13-2011, 03:38 AM	#5
Bullet Sponge Pro OVR: 7 Join Date: Sep 2010	Re: Is this cheese? bad form? I also say no. There's some inherent risk there, especially if you have to run another play or to line up the field goal or whatever. You could get called for a penalty, fumble, etc. I find it becomes a fine art trying to milk the clock perfectly at the end of the half/game against the CPU who always seems to be able to drive 80 yards in 35 seconds.

08-13-2011, 03:45 AM	#6
dochalladay32 Hall Of Fame OVR: 21 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Missohiodelaiowa	Re: Is this cheese? bad form? I'm glad to see all no's. Your friend is just mad that you didn't give him a chance to score. He'd probably complain if his favorite team in real life scored, and then watched the opponent return the kickoff for touchdown and possibly the win. __________________ NCAA 12 Historical Conferences: 1937-present PM me with any comments, suggestions, or questions you may have. There is definite room for other versions with as many teams have come and gone in FBS. NOTE: Link will change periodically for major updates so be careful when bookmarking.

08-13-2011, 04:04 AM	#7
Hiro1 MVP OVR: 7 Join Date: Sep 2009	Re: Is this cheese? bad form? Smart football yes. Bad taste Yea. Its kinda like how Some MMA fighters who are wrestlers. just take their opponent to the ground and lay on them all fight. __________________ Psn: Plex-07

08-13-2011, 05:02 AM	#8
PowerofRed25 MVP OVR: 13 Join Date: Jul 2011	Re: Is this cheese? bad form? Absolutely not, I've done shadier things than that to run out the clock at the end of a tight game, but they are all things I have seen done in actual games. Last year, I had a huge user vs user game in an OD to determine a spot in a conference title game. I had been up 3 with about 40 seconds left, deep in my own territory after picking off a pass at the goal line and running it to like the 10. He still had all 2 timeouts, so I took 2 knees to burn them and took a third knee on 3rd down before calling a timeout myself when the clock burned to 1 on the play clock and 7 on the game clock. Having been prepared for this very situation since the beginning of the year, I called Fake Punt Pass on 4th down with a RB formation subbed in at punter. Snapped it, let the time run out and stepped out the back of the endzone for a safety to end the game and win by 1. No way in hell was I risking a punt, no matter how hard it is to return them and I didn't want to risk shanking one trying to aim it out of bounds and have him be in FG or hail mary range. As for your situation, I've done the same thing many times. Smart football. DukeC and cparrish like this.

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