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[J-Unit40]

Quote: Originally Posted by thelasthurtknee

your point on sales is terrible. its the only college football game and about everyone has upgraded to a 360. either they just cant play on current gen anymore or they don't have one anymore. everyone needed to upgrade, thats why this piece of **** sold. you have to be kidding me if you think 08 on 360 is better than any version on the xbox/ps2 over the last 4 years, and you say your a hardcore gamer. if you were a casual gamer o.k., i wouldn't have anything to say but do even watch football. you tell me if those little digital men even look like football players. they look terrible. the playbooks are garbage, the option is always perfect they really dropped the ball on formation subs and all the little things like TOUCH PASSES(even though they finally fixed it to a degree) and what about no responsiveness on defense. you cant even intercept the ball unless you hit the button while the qb's throwing. acceleration dosen't exist in this game. everyone is at full speed after one step. everyone, go to practice and check it out. i know its hard to say the current is better than new but 08 on the 360 is a flaming piece of ****. i'll be the first in line next year but i think they might get it right now that current is out of the picture. you have to remember that all the little things like gang tackling and the cool feature stick animations and a **** load of new plays(way more than the 360) are in the xbox version this year too. they actually did more on the last gen this year to make it better than the new gen. they also fixed the o line blocking. i think its rudyjuly who bashes the blocking schemes on current gen but on 08 they fixed the inside run game. everything is better but fg's and pursuit angles (which i have a fix for). i can live with the almighty game killer of never missing a fg any day over the failure of 08 on 360.

Well put man. I completely agree with you. NCAA 08 is the only college football option on 360/PS3 and a major disappointment to many outside of this community and obviously, those in the OS community.

[parker002]

Quote: Originally Posted by baumy300

That's messed up... Do you know this for a fact or are just assuming?

Nothing is fact.

Nobody "official" has acknowledged formally that there's a patch, but we got one.

I've deduced, based on what I've read on several websites, that there won't be anymore add-ons for NCAA this year, including the jerseys...

[parker002]

Quote: Originally Posted by fistofrage

I would disagree with that the 360 version is superior to NCAA 2k7 or 2k8. The presentation, the D1aa teams, the better playbooks, the formation subs, the ease of editing, the menu navigation, booth challenges that actually have some suspense, the list goes on and on. I even like the player models better on the previous gen. The 360 looks more polished, because of its graphic capabilities, but the linemen look like refrigerator boxes with a bowling ball on top of them. Its a personal preference, but I find it ridiculous that the best things on the PS2 didn't make it over to the 360 especially this deep into the 360's cycle. As far as this game appealing to the masses, I honestly don't see how they have made this game "funner" for the casual fan. Maybe its prettier to some, but just from a gaming perspective, throwing out the realism that people like us want so badly, I can't see how this game is "funner" to the casual fan than NCAA 2004 for example.

I wasn't comparing 2007 or 2008 for the 360 to the same iteration of the game, primarily because I have no frame of reference - I only own a 360.

I can only compare the 360 games to those that came before them - namely 2005 and 2006, neither of which were playable on the original XBox. One of them (can't remember which one) had the infamous WR drop bug, which may have been the single-most frustrating issue I've ever experienced in any game, ever.

[ODogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

I can't emphasize enough that using sales figures as your means of proof is a terrible basis of proof.

No one is indicating, or at least I am not indicating, that great sales numbers means a great game. What I am saying, and I think others as well, is that great sales to EA means they think it's a great game. That's why we are saying it will not have a complete overhaul anytime soon. Which matters more to EA as to whether or not the game is overhauled, the general sales numbers or your and your hardcore gamer comrades who make up probably 3 to 5% of the total overall public that the game is marketed toward?

[parker002]

Quote: Originally Posted by thelasthurtknee

your point on sales is terrible. its the only college football game and about everyone has upgraded to a 360. either they just cant play on current gen anymore or they don't have one anymore. everyone needed to upgrade, thats why this piece of **** sold. you have to be kidding me if you think 08 on 360 is better than any version on the xbox/ps2 over the last 4 years, and you say your a hardcore gamer. if you were a casual gamer o.k., i wouldn't have anything to say but do even watch football. you tell me if those little digital men even look like football players. they look terrible. the playbooks are garbage, the option is always perfect they really dropped the ball on formation subs and all the little things like TOUCH PASSES(even though they finally fixed it to a degree) and what about no responsiveness on defense. you cant even intercept the ball unless you hit the button while the qb's throwing. acceleration dosen't exist in this game. everyone is at full speed after one step. everyone, go to practice and check it out. i know its hard to say the current is better than new but 08 on the 360 is a flaming piece of ****. i'll be the first in line next year but i think they might get it right now that current is out of the picture. you have to remember that all the little things like gang tackling and the cool feature stick animations and a **** load of new plays(way more than the 360) are in the xbox version this year too. they actually did more on the last gen this year to make it better than the new gen. they also fixed the o line blocking. i think its rudyjuly who bashes the blocking schemes on current gen but on 08 they fixed the inside run game. everything is better but fg's and pursuit angles (which i have a fix for). i can live with the almighty game killer of never missing a fg any day over the failure of 08 on 360.

Congratulations, you just made the "sales" point all over again.

OF COURSE it's the only option, and that's why it sold. The fact is IT SOLD. Don't you think that if you know this, EA knows this too?

It's simple economics.

As for previous iterations of the game, I played NCAA 2004 on the PS2. It was BY FAR the best version of this game. Sometime after that, I purchased an XBox. I purchased both 2005 and 2006 on the XBox, and didn't keep either of them longer than a week. I don't care how much "presentation" they had, they weren't playable. They had game-killing, on-field bugs.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

No one is indicating, or at least I am not indicating, that great sales numbers means a great game. What I am saying, and I think others as well, is that great sales to EA means they think it's a great game. That's why we are saying it will not have a complete overhaul anytime soon. Which matters more to EA as to whether or not the game is overhauled, the general sales numbers or your and your hardcore gamer comrades who make up probably 3 to 5% of the total overall public that the game is marketed toward?

EDIT: Forget it. Discussing this with you O is like discussing the ill-effects of cocaine with a crack addict.

"But I'm not dead! If crack kills then I would be dead."

Sure thing, O.

[parker002]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

No one is indicating, or at least I am not indicating, that great sales numbers means a great game. What I am saying, and I think others as well, is that great sales to EA means they think it's a great game. That's why we are saying it will not have a complete overhaul anytime soon. Which matters more to EA as to whether or not the game is overhauled, the general sales numbers or your and your hardcore gamer comrades who make up probably 3 to 5% of the total overall public that the game is marketed toward?

Exactly.

Not only do great sales numbers not mean a great game, the great sales numbers might actually mean a continuation, indefinitely, of the crap we've been getting.

[parker002]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

Don't start making up fake %'s. Again, EA is not happy with the sales numbers. I don't know how many times I have to post that for you to understand it.

So you work for EA or have a source that does?

What other indication do you have that things are going to change?

One only needs to browse the archives here to see how long this cycle has been going on...