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[fistofrage]

Quote: Originally Posted by rudyjuly2

You can vote on how good the game is by not buying it next year which is your right but I really do think we will see another nice leap forward. I'm sure they will make one more iteration on the PS2 anyways if you are still not happy.

I gurantee that the PS2 version won't fix the FG problem and most likely not the pursuit angles. If they were to fix those, I would buy it in a heartbeat and sit back and laugh as everyone else punched walls, threw controllers, and cursed EA for the flaws in the 360 version.

[Cardot]

Quote: Originally Posted by rudyjuly2

I don't think the next gen versions are three years away from being good nor do I think we will even see a new console at that time. These consoles will have at least a 10 year lifespan.

I don't know about that 10 year span. Dating back to Atari, Consoles have seen a new generation about 4-6 years after the previous launch. Interesting write up here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_games

First generation (1972–1977)
Second generation (1976–1984)
Third generation (1983–1992)
Fourth generation (1987–1996)
Fifth generation (1993–2002)
Sixth generation (1998–2006)
Seventh generation (2004–)

[rudyjuly2]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cardot

I don't know about that 10 year span. Dating back to Atari, Consoles have seen a new generation about 4-6 years after the previous launch. Interesting write up here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_games First generation (1972–1977) Second generation (1976–1984) Third generation (1983–1992) Fourth generation (1987–1996) Fifth generation (1993–2002) Sixth generation (1998–2006) Seventh generation (2004–)

I totally agree about previous consoles having a shorter life span. However, the old formula doesn't exist anymore. In the past you just put out a console with more horsepower to do better graphics and it sold. With the quality of the graphics already being so good on next gen and with the success of systems like the Wii and the DS where graphics are inferior, that formula no longer works. The improvement in graphics is hitting a wall. There won't be large support to buy an expensive new system just for graphics since these ones do such a great job. I think its one reason the PS2 has lasted so long - its graphics are still acceptable. I don't even consider the 6th generation over yet due to the strong sales of that system.

Sony has stated they have long term plans with the PS3 and with firmware updates and large hard drives I believe them.

[Pared]

The girl in the corner is cute.

[KG]

Quote: Originally Posted by fistofrage

This is exactly why people are frustrated. Its like buying a new car and realizing there is no air conditioning, it handles worse, its stiffer, slower, and when you really look closely at it, it looks worse than your old car. There used to be so many things to like about this game and they were so close to having a "great" game on their hands that it was always worth checking out the new version. Now they are so far away from having even a good game that its infuriating. Its like when Coke rolled out that "New Coke" garbage. People actually stopped drinking Coke. I never thought I'd say it, but I've stopped playing NCAA. And until they can make the 360 play as well as the last gen, all features included, I'm not going to play NCAA again. I'm telling you, outside of the automatic Fg's, pursuit angles, and lack of facemask penalties(slider doesn't work), NCAA for the PS2 was THAT close to being perfect. Granted those problems ruined it for me, but if those were fixed, no more complaints out of me. Ever. I don't have enough time in the day to make a list of things that the 360 version needs to do to get this game to that point. I would say they are at minimum, MINIMUM, 3 years away and by that time they will be rolling out a new console and NCAA will be worse on that than it is on the 360 if history holds true. So hate? No, I don't hate these guys. They frustrate me and disappoint me, but all I can do is not give them my $60 next year. Its just so sad, I've beta tested for them long enough. Games are supposed to be fun, and NCAA feels more like moonlighting on a second job than having fun.

I agree but I wouldn't say its 3 yrs away because I don't know what goes into making adjusments from year to year. It seems to me like alot of their time goes into making the next new feature. If they dont roll out some sort of new feature then they could lose sales. Double edged sword. Also, it's impossible to satisfy everyone as some people like the recruiting and some don't.

[jfsolo]

1. A.I. for the CPU QB's and RB's

2. A.I. for User and CPU WR's

3. The return of Head Tracking

4. Fully functioning penalty sliders

5. Passing trajectory.

These are the core issues for me, and it seems as if some of these may have already been fixed in the patch.

College Hoops and NCAA Football are the two sports games that I will always take a chance on no matter what the previous years game was like. Since I know I'm weak when it comes to these two games, I add my two cents to the wishlists, and hope for the best.

[thelasthurtknee]

hey rudy, i have seen a few times that you said the inside running game in 08 is bad but its absolutely awesome in 08. the inside counter slam power o and iso's all work to perfection if you know how to run to the right place. prereads on 1,2, or 3 gap assignments of the dline make all the difference. actually you this is the first game ea has ever made where im busting 15 yard plus plays up the gut and actually staying in between the hash's. its like real football for once. if you read it wrong you really cant bust it out you are stopped in the backfield but sliders and level effect all that. give it a try. oh, and using motion to reduce the men in the box and playaction affect the defense so much.

Hey fist of rage, give these a try. you will be very happy with what happens to the pursuit angles. actually the pursuit angles are still kind of bad but the defenders close faster so you normally cant make the corner on them with getting caught on the sideline. the most important thing to remember when you have the ball is don't speed burst before you cross the line of scrimmage. for some reason if you do they angle to where you were when you first hit the speed burst instead where you are going. these will make you smile again. yea, they look crazy but i promise you'll like. the inside run game is money if you can get some balance on offense in the first half. just like real life. hit up some practice mode with these.

Gameplay = Heisman

Offense - User / CPU same
QB Accuracy = 55%
Pass Blocking = 70%
WR Catching = 70%
RB Ability = 70%
Run Blocking = 70%
Password : oe6tlYJ3 (lowercase L 4th from last)

Defense - User / CPU same
Awareness = 90%
Knockdowns = 70%
Interceptions = 35%
Break Block = 85%
Tackling = 80%
Password : QPMjsIn3

Special Teams - User / CPU same
FG Distance = 60%
FG Accuracy = 50%
Punt Length = 99%
Punt Accuracy = 70%
Kickoff Length = 90%
Password = oBgPAgD4

[rudyjuly2]

Quote: Originally Posted by thelasthurtknee

hey rudy, i have seen a few times that you said the inside running game in 08 is bad but its absolutely awesome in 08. the inside counter slam power o and iso's all work to perfection if you know how to run to the right place. prereads on 1,2, or 3 gap assignments of the dline make all the difference. actually you this is the first game ea has ever made where im busting 15 yard plus plays up the gut and actually staying in between the hash's. its like real football for once. if you read it wrong you really cant bust it out you are stopped in the backfield but sliders and level effect all that. give it a try. oh, and using motion to reduce the men in the box and playaction affect the defense so much.

I never played the 08 version on the PS2 so I really can't dispute that. I was only commenting on some people I trust who have played it and said it took a step backwards from '07. Since I considered '07 to be a step backwards from '06 in terms of the inside running game, I didn't even bother renting the thing and simply adjusted to the PS3 version. I thought the inside running game in '07 on the PS2 Heisman level was atrocious compared to '06. LB instincts and overreacting was just awful and made Heisman unplayable in '07 for me (not a big deal since I'm usually an AA guy but AA still had issues with always bouncing it).