Where Did The Speed Go?

[Roggie]

That's pretty much where they should be. Since speed progresses, which is how it should be, as they get better teaching and can perfect their form, maybe one or two players every 4 or 5 years should come in with a 95+ speed rating.

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I'm not going to blast anyone for wanting more unrealistic speedsters in the game because that's just what we've come to expect because that's how EA has always done it.

With that said, I've noticed the new system is so much more realistic. I love seeing so many different backs ratings wise. I recruited a 4-star HB who was 6'0" 237 pounds. He only had 80 speed, 78 agility and 89 acceleration. His break tackle and carry ratings were very high and he's been one of the best backs I've ever recruited. Numbers wise, he's the slowest, but he doesn't 'play' that way. He averages about 6 YPC and most of those yards come after contact. I love it.

[Mtneer08]

I think they got it pretty realistic with the speed. It kills me when people think just because a RB, WR, etc is highly rated they should automatically come in with 90+ speed rating. Every player would feel the same then...I love how they balanced it out this year.

[jbrew2411]

Quote: Originally Posted by Roggie

Exactly. And if you want to fix the game speed, drop the threshold down to around 25 or 30. It's far better there.

I agree. I play on slow speed with the threshold at 25. The game plays great as far as speed wise.

Quote: Originally Posted by Apostle

I'm not going to blast anyone for wanting more unrealistic speedsters in the game because that's just what we've come to expect because that's how EA has always done it. With that said, I've noticed the new system is so much more realistic. I love seeing so many different backs ratings wise. I recruited a 4-star HB who was 6'0" 237 pounds. He only had 80 speed, 78 agility and 89 acceleration. His break tackle and carry ratings were very high and he's been one of the best backs I've ever recruited. Numbers wise, he's the slowest, but he doesn't 'play' that way. He averages about 6 YPC and most of those yards come after contact. I love it.

I got a 4* back that is like you guy. He is 5'11" 228lbs with 84 speed and 93 acc and he is a beast. As a RsSo he has finshed 3rd for the Walker, 4th for the Heisman, and has over 3,000 yds in 2 years. I was not a running team until I got him.
Like you said EA has trained us into thinking that a player with a speed rating in the 80's is useless. They started last year with Madden changing the way they do ratings. I like it. It makes things more like real life.

[EZ Esquire]

I have to agree that it is where it should be. It is completely unrealistic to have a bunch a freshmen coming in every year with speed in the 90s.

Within a few years all your skill players will have speeds in the upper 90s. It would be like an NFL team playing in college.

This would make the game more like an arcade game.

The variety in the game is very good. I love how I have to labor over whether to take a 5 * vs. a 4* HB where the 4* has superior speed and the 5* may have superior overall skills.

A 4* WR has speed but a 5* has superior catching.

And this works for every position.

This is the way it should be.

[ReeseChiarlo]

While I agree with those who say that the rating for other things beside speed seem to finally matter in the game which is good. But, with the speed numbers coming from the linebacking core, slower speed running backs does make things very difficult. RBs should not be slower then every LB on the field, but since LB's are coming in at 94-99 speed on a regular basis it does tilt things in favor of the defense.

A little balance would go a long way here. I dont feel that RB's should be faster, but I do feel that LB's should be slower.

[PocketScout]

Quote: Originally Posted by ReeseChiarlo

But, with the speed numbers coming from the linebacking core, slower speed running backs does make things very difficult. RBs should not be slower then every LB on the field, but since LB's are coming in at 94-99 speed on a regular basis it does tilt things in favor of the defense. A little balance would go a long way here. I dont feel that RB's should be faster, but I do feel that LB's should be slower.

Here is a breakdown for all the 4 & 3 star LB's in one of my classes. LB's and HB's are pretty even, but HB's still have a slight speed and agility advantage while LB's have a slight acceleration advantage.

RNK	***	YR	POST	SPD	AGL	ACC
57	4	FR	MLB	79	70	81
64	4	FR	LOLB	82	77	89
66	4	FR	ROLB	85	70	88
67	4	FR	MLB	84	73	83
72	4	FR	MLB	80	88	90
73	4	FR	MLB	80	72	95
77	4	FR	ROLB	85	71	89
81	4	FR	ROLB	80	67	80
89	4	FR	LOLB	84	72	99
121	4	FR	ROLB	85	68	89
134	4	FR	LOLB	80	78	90
151	4	FR	MLB	82	70	88
170	4	FR	MLB	92	78	85
172	4	SO	MLB	79	69	84
180	4	FR	ROLB	74	60	88
193	4	FR	LOLB	75	79	92
194	4	FR	LOLB	82	79	93
202	4	JR	MLB	82	72	79
224	4	FR	MLB	82	71	94
237	4	FR	MLB	82	73	90
267	3	FR	ROLB	78	65	92
281	3	FR	MLB	84	75	95
293	3	FR	MLB	85	60	87
294	3	FR	LOLB	80	70	91
310	3	FR	ROLB	82	70	85
326	3	FR	MLB	88	50	95
328	3	FR	MLB	82	65	92
330	3	FR	ROLB	85	63	89
331	3	FR	ROLB	79	65	80
352	3	FR	ROLB	81	72	92
358	3	FR	MLB	79	67	92
363	3	FR	LOLB	76	79	80
364	3	FR	MLB	80	62	90
377	3	FR	ROLB	89	63	97
378	3	FR	MLB	79	52	83
396	3	FR	ROLB	82	79	87
406	3	FR	ROLB	84	66	84
428	3	FR	ROLB	85	69	83
432	3	FR	ROLB	79	70	74
434	3	FR	LOLB	74	78	80
437	3	JR	MLB	84	72	92
449	3	FR	MLB	83	73	90
455	3	FR	ROLB	86	66	84
462	3	FR	ROLB	83	77	88
481	3	FR	ROLB	82	77	85
502	3	FR	ROLB	82	67	88
514	3	FR	ROLB	82	70	84
523	3	FR	MLB	87	60	79
580	3	FR	MLB	87	68	85
584	3	FR	ROLB	78	68	84
595	3	FR	MLB	84	58	89
597	3	FR	LOLB	70	60	79
604	3	FR	MLB	78	54	90
615	3	FR	ROLB	80	65	94
618	3	FR	LOLB	78	75	94
642	3	FR	MLB	85	76	86
645	3	JR	ROLB	75	69	99
679	3	FR	ROLB	80	62	80
689	3	FR	MLB	82	50	82
696	3	FR	LOLB	73	67	80
708	3	FR	LOLB	75	71	87
714	3	FR	ROLB	90	60	78
721	3	FR	MLB	76	68	89
739	3	FR	MLB	85	65	84
742	3	FR	MLB	78	64	95
743	3	FR	MLB	83	64	92
771	3	FR	ROLB	83	69	89
785	3	FR	MLB	74	51	95
792	3	FR	LOLB	75	70	79
795	3	FR	LOLB	74	74	75
799	3	FR	LOLB	72	59	80
808	3	FR	LOLB	73	60	81
811	3	FR	ROLB	85	60	79
812	3	FR	MLB	81	64	80
818	3	FR	MLB	77	52	90
835	3	FR	ROLB	85	61	87
842	3	FR	MLB	82	70	81
844	3	FR	LOLB	68	60	81
849	3	FR	ROLB	80	72	84
859	3	FR	MLB	82	62	92
899	3	FR	MLB	80	52	86
901	3	FR	MLB	83	58	90
926	3	FR	ROLB	79	62	79
931	3	FR	ROLB	83	63	77
934	3	FR	LOLB	71	59	86
941	3	FR	MLB	80	61	88
964	3	FR	MLB	84	50	75
967	3	FR	MLB	87	79	88
970	3	FR	MLB	79	70	90
980	3	FR	MLB	82	58	90
985	3	FR	LOLB	71	66	79
995	3	FR	MLB	75	61	98
999	3	JR	LOLB	86	78	96
1003	3	FR	LOLB	72	64	94
1010	3	FR	MLB	82	71	86
1017	3	FR	LOLB	77	69	83
1019	3	FR	ROLB	80	61	93
1040	3	FR	MLB	84	64	81
1069	3	FR	MLB	86	63	84
1073	3	FR	LOLB	70	64	83
1083	3	JR	MLB	79	61	86
1084	3	FR	ROLB	75	65	71
1085	3	FR	ROLB	80	51	79
1089	3	FR	MLB	88	64	83
1099	3	FR	MLB	79	52	81
1120	3	FR	MLB	82	66	86
1126	3	FR	MLB	88	70	81
1138	3	FR	MLB	79	50	93
1139	3	FR	LOLB	78	64	81
1160	3	FR	MLB	82	51	86
1169	3	FR	MLB	81	61	68
1181	3	FR	LOLB	69	62	82
1187	3	FR	ROLB	80	65	93
1195	3	FR	ROLB	84	60	87
1215	3	FR	ROLB	75	62	81
1219	3	FR	LOLB	74	60	82
1223	3	FR	MLB	82	78	95
1236	3	FR	MLB	80	50	77
1240	3	FR	ROLB	86	68	96
1250	3	FR	LOLB	70	62	92
1252	3	FR	MLB	87	56	77
1285	3	FR	MLB	83	62	77
1300	3	FR	ROLB	79	65	81
1307	3	FR	LOLB	72	62	83
1311	3	FR	MLB	75	51	82
1317	3	FR	ROLB	84	56	86
1328	3	FR	MLB	83	63	83
1331	3	FR	MLB	83	64	90
1335	3	FR	MLB	85	70	89
1342	3	FR	MLB	81	71	82
1344	3	FR	LOLB	69	65	85
1347	3	FR	MLB	82	68	82
1354	3	FR	LOLB	74	56	76
1362	3	FR	ROLB	75	60	83
1374	3	FR	MLB	87	62	83
1378	3	FR	ROLB	71	50	79
1381	3	FR	MLB	80	72	79
1386	3	FR	LOLB	66	59	93
1395	3	FR	MLB	76	74	93
1417	3	FR	ROLB	78	69	91
1419	3	FR	MLB	70	50	82
1427	3	SO	MLB	82	64	88

[Ricky Rowe Zay]

Quote: Originally Posted by PocketScout

Here is a breakdown for all the 4 & 3 star LB's in one of my classes. LB's and HB's are pretty even, but HB's still have a slight speed and agility advantage while LB's have a slight acceleration advantage. RNK *** YR POST SPD AGL ACC 57 4 FR MLB 79 70 81 64 4 FR LOLB 82 77 89 66 4 FR ROLB 85 70 88 67 4 FR MLB 84 73 83 72 4 FR MLB 80 88 90 73 4 FR MLB 80 72 95 77 4 FR ROLB 85 71 89 81 4 FR ROLB 80 67 80 89 4 FR LOLB 84 72 99 121 4 FR ROLB 85 68 89 134 4 FR LOLB 80 78 90 151 4 FR MLB 82 70 88 170 4 FR MLB 92 78 85 172 4 SO MLB 79 69 84 180 4 FR ROLB 74 60 88 193 4 FR LOLB 75 79 92 194 4 FR LOLB 82 79 93 202 4 JR MLB 82 72 79 224 4 FR MLB 82 71 94 237 4 FR MLB 82 73 90 267 3 FR ROLB 78 65 92 281 3 FR MLB 84 75 95 293 3 FR MLB 85 60 87 294 3 FR LOLB 80 70 91 310 3 FR ROLB 82 70 85 326 3 FR MLB 88 50 95 328 3 FR MLB 82 65 92 330 3 FR ROLB 85 63 89 331 3 FR ROLB 79 65 80 352 3 FR ROLB 81 72 92 358 3 FR MLB 79 67 92 363 3 FR LOLB 76 79 80 364 3 FR MLB 80 62 90 377 3 FR ROLB 89 63 97 378 3 FR MLB 79 52 83 396 3 FR ROLB 82 79 87 406 3 FR ROLB 84 66 84 428 3 FR ROLB 85 69 83 432 3 FR ROLB 79 70 74 434 3 FR LOLB 74 78 80 437 3 JR MLB 84 72 92 449 3 FR MLB 83 73 90 455 3 FR ROLB 86 66 84 462 3 FR ROLB 83 77 88 481 3 FR ROLB 82 77 85 502 3 FR ROLB 82 67 88 514 3 FR ROLB 82 70 84 523 3 FR MLB 87 60 79 580 3 FR MLB 87 68 85 584 3 FR ROLB 78 68 84 595 3 FR MLB 84 58 89 597 3 FR LOLB 70 60 79 604 3 FR MLB 78 54 90 615 3 FR ROLB 80 65 94 618 3 FR LOLB 78 75 94 642 3 FR MLB 85 76 86 645 3 JR ROLB 75 69 99 679 3 FR ROLB 80 62 80 689 3 FR MLB 82 50 82 696 3 FR LOLB 73 67 80 708 3 FR LOLB 75 71 87 714 3 FR ROLB 90 60 78 721 3 FR MLB 76 68 89 739 3 FR MLB 85 65 84 742 3 FR MLB 78 64 95 743 3 FR MLB 83 64 92 771 3 FR ROLB 83 69 89 785 3 FR MLB 74 51 95 792 3 FR LOLB 75 70 79 795 3 FR LOLB 74 74 75 799 3 FR LOLB 72 59 80 808 3 FR LOLB 73 60 81 811 3 FR ROLB 85 60 79 812 3 FR MLB 81 64 80 818 3 FR MLB 77 52 90 835 3 FR ROLB 85 61 87 842 3 FR MLB 82 70 81 844 3 FR LOLB 68 60 81 849 3 FR ROLB 80 72 84 859 3 FR MLB 82 62 92 899 3 FR MLB 80 52 86 901 3 FR MLB 83 58 90 926 3 FR ROLB 79 62 79 931 3 FR ROLB 83 63 77 934 3 FR LOLB 71 59 86 941 3 FR MLB 80 61 88 964 3 FR MLB 84 50 75 967 3 FR MLB 87 79 88 970 3 FR MLB 79 70 90 980 3 FR MLB 82 58 90 985 3 FR LOLB 71 66 79 995 3 FR MLB 75 61 98 999 3 JR LOLB 86 78 96 1003 3 FR LOLB 72 64 94 1010 3 FR MLB 82 71 86 1017 3 FR LOLB 77 69 83 1019 3 FR ROLB 80 61 93 1040 3 FR MLB 84 64 81 1069 3 FR MLB 86 63 84 1073 3 FR LOLB 70 64 83 1083 3 JR MLB 79 61 86 1084 3 FR ROLB 75 65 71 1085 3 FR ROLB 80 51 79 1089 3 FR MLB 88 64 83 1099 3 FR MLB 79 52 81 1120 3 FR MLB 82 66 86 1126 3 FR MLB 88 70 81 1138 3 FR MLB 79 50 93 1139 3 FR LOLB 78 64 81 1160 3 FR MLB 82 51 86 1169 3 FR MLB 81 61 68 1181 3 FR LOLB 69 62 82 1187 3 FR ROLB 80 65 93 1195 3 FR ROLB 84 60 87 1215 3 FR ROLB 75 62 81 1219 3 FR LOLB 74 60 82 1223 3 FR MLB 82 78 95 1236 3 FR MLB 80 50 77 1240 3 FR ROLB 86 68 96 1250 3 FR LOLB 70 62 92 1252 3 FR MLB 87 56 77 1285 3 FR MLB 83 62 77 1300 3 FR ROLB 79 65 81 1307 3 FR LOLB 72 62 83 1311 3 FR MLB 75 51 82 1317 3 FR ROLB 84 56 86 1328 3 FR MLB 83 63 83 1331 3 FR MLB 83 64 90 1335 3 FR MLB 85 70 89 1342 3 FR MLB 81 71 82 1344 3 FR LOLB 69 65 85 1347 3 FR MLB 82 68 82 1354 3 FR LOLB 74 56 76 1362 3 FR ROLB 75 60 83 1374 3 FR MLB 87 62 83 1378 3 FR ROLB 71 50 79 1381 3 FR MLB 80 72 79 1386 3 FR LOLB 66 59 93 1395 3 FR MLB 76 74 93 1417 3 FR ROLB 78 69 91 1419 3 FR MLB 70 50 82 1427 3 SO MLB 82 64 88

Looks good. LB's need to have a higher Acceleration in this game with the speed of the game now.