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09-13-2010, 11:55 AM | #33 |
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Re: Where Did The Speed Go?
Love this thread, and love everyone's arguments...very good stuff.
I am in my 5th Dynasty year playing in a 2 person league....so my stuff might not be comparable with you guys, but my buddy and i have been playing dynastys since the start of NCAA on ps2. I have a RB right now that i got 2 seasons ago. I redshirted him, he is now a RS sophmore. THis guys was pre-PATCH 3 and LTP 3. He is 6'1" 219, RIght now he has 98 spd 98 acc he is a 96 overall. And i have to say it is an tons of fun playing with this guy, BUT i also realize this is not very realistic. He is unstopable against the computer, and almost to the point where its really not even fair. Averaging around 200 yds / game. So with all this being said i really have to say i like what i see out of POCKETS SCOUTS numbers i think a RB's speed should come secondary to his ACC, BKTCKL, JUKE etc. The best RB in the country last year was Mark Ingram, not because of his speed but because of the combination of Size, power, Elusiveness, and Vision. And sometimes this is how it is, Emmit Smith is arguably the best RB of all time (and even though i love the Dallas Cowboys, i will always say the Barry Sanders was really the greatest, but thats a discussion for another time) Emmit was not a burner, but he had Elusivness, Vision and Patience. Sometimes too much speed and Acceleration can get you in trouble, because your into the offensive line before there is a hole to run through. So you end up having to break everything to the outside. For me i love running between the tackles, but with the RB i have i hardly get to do that because he is TOO FAST. Another example of too much speed in the NFL is Chris Johnson. He is a burner, but his best plays used to always come out of draws and screens and delays. The reason for this (as you all know) is on a draw or a delay the offensive line has time to block and open holes at the first and second levels. Which allowed Chris Johnson to do what he does best get in the open field and run away from people. But last year when he learned some patience....he really became a dynamic all around RB. Now when you watch him he really knows how to be patient, and when to open it up. He is very scary, and he proved it again this past weekend. ( LOL, i won my fantasy league because of him last year as well) Anyways this is just my 2 cents so take it for what its worth. Thanks! Last edited by yoda43; 09-13-2010 at 12:06 PM. |
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09-13-2010, 12:05 PM | #35 |
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I think what your statistics is leaving out is all the athletes that have high linebacker ratings. Which is something unusual, this was not the case in the past most athletes in the past were skill positions. But finding a 6'0" 245 lbs athlete with A to A+ speed is not overly unusual in this game. I have one starting at linebacker on my team, and another person in the thread mentioned they do too, and in my second dynasty I just signed other athlete of similar size and speed.
Would love to see a sampling of the athletes too. Possibly what I and others are experiencing are not the norm but anomalies. |
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RNK *** YR POS ATH SPD AGL ACC OLB MLB 3 5 FR FS YES 95 86 95 86 85 5 5 FR FB YES 78 75 79 55 55 40 4 SO RE YES 80 80 84 79 79 71 4 FR CB YES 90 71 79 65 66 76 4 FR WR YES 84 82 92 46 45 81 4 FR QB YES 70 71 70 27 26 90 4 FR HB YES 82 90 80 41 39 98 4 FR WR YES 88 74 85 45 44 136 4 FR CB YES 87 74 75 62 63 141 4 JR FB YES 75 77 84 57 57 155 4 FR CB YES 89 71 87 60 60 168 4 FR FS YES 85 70 85 71 70 171 4 FR WR YES 79 77 87 50 51 171 4 FR WR YES 85 71 89 42 42 176 4 FR QB YES 81 66 61 12 10 200 4 FR WR YES 84 75 75 44 43 205 4 FR WR YES 90 75 69 44 43 207 4 FR CB YES 90 71 88 56 57 222 4 FR WR YES 76 71 84 40 40 255 3 FR HB YES 94 87 81 34 31 256 3 FR HB YES 86 75 79 27 24 257 3 FR RT YES 60 58 50 53 54 269 3 FR HB YES 86 72 80 29 24 270 3 FR WR YES 79 80 83 48 47 276 3 FR WR YES 75 76 87 45 45 290 3 FR CB YES 85 70 91 55 55 292 3 FR WR YES 85 83 75 44 43 300 3 FR QB YES 82 74 82 9 7 318 3 FR WR YES 81 80 93 47 46 324 3 FR WR YES 85 75 79 44 43 325 3 FR WR YES 85 70 77 44 42 339 3 FR HB YES 85 84 85 27 24 348 3 FR HB YES 83 89 82 26 23 371 3 FR QB YES 73 64 65 9 7 374 3 FR QB YES 84 75 70 11 9 378 3 FR MLB YES 79 52 83 62 61 399 3 FR CB YES 88 70 81 58 57 418 3 FR RE YES 61 63 80 57 57 438 3 FR HB YES 83 75 77 48 44 439 3 FR HB YES 83 76 86 34 31 447 3 FR WR YES 84 86 71 43 42 464 3 FR WR YES 92 75 84 49 47 505 3 FR WR YES 90 73 76 47 45 512 3 FR SS YES 78 75 82 67 67 527 3 FR CB YES 80 80 88 57 58 543 3 FR QB YES 69 66 60 9 7 544 3 JR SS YES 78 76 78 81 80 574 3 FR CB YES 83 84 87 55 54 600 3 FR WR YES 87 70 80 51 50 610 3 JR QB YES 78 62 62 10 8 646 3 FR WR YES 89 71 81 48 46 663 3 FR QB YES 66 71 68 4 3 685 3 FR RT YES 59 60 72 59 60 699 3 FR CB YES 85 77 71 48 48 722 3 FR WR YES 85 67 70 58 56 723 3 FR WR YES 86 82 73 42 41 726 3 FR WR YES 87 77 78 51 50 736 3 FR CB YES 86 78 88 50 49 744 3 FR WR YES 86 74 73 43 42 780 3 FR FS YES 82 71 85 61 60 781 3 FR WR YES 85 74 73 47 46 796 3 FR CB YES 86 78 91 41 41 798 3 JR WR YES 90 70 83 46 44 800 3 FR WR YES 87 83 72 49 48 819 3 FR CB YES 88 81 87 54 52 836 3 FR CB YES 89 78 87 50 49 861 3 FR WR YES 82 60 77 44 43 863 3 FR WR YES 83 75 78 45 44 867 3 FR WR YES 89 71 80 42 40 915 3 FR WR YES 84 67 71 41 40 916 3 JR WR YES 85 73 99 54 52 921 3 FR WR YES 93 70 72 43 41 922 3 FR WR YES 89 69 76 41 40 938 3 FR HB YES 88 76 77 34 33 948 3 FR HB YES 87 75 74 22 19 1002 3 FR CB YES 84 78 84 55 55 1093 3 JR CB YES 85 80 88 53 54 1103 3 FR TE YES 73 53 70 66 66 1159 3 FR CB YES 86 78 85 55 54 1233 3 FR CB YES 84 78 79 47 47 1237 3 FR WR YES 84 62 79 47 46 1254 3 FR CB YES 78 78 89 48 48 1289 3 FR HB YES 84 69 78 30 28 1303 3 FR WR YES 87 80 66 40 39 1422 3 FR WR YES 85 69 67 41 40 1627 2 FR RT YES 51 57 77 51 52 1659 2 FR ROLB YES 78 58 79 55 54 1737 2 JR RE YES 61 68 71 61 62 1782 2 FR HB YES 77 71 74 32 28 1880 2 FR CB YES 82 78 85 48 47 1898 2 FR DT YES 47 53 56 43 45 1913 2 FR RT YES 66 58 88 60 60 1946 2 FR QB YES 62 67 61 12 10 1970 2 FR LT YES 61 63 81 61 61 1987 2 FR CB YES 89 79 81 52 52 2002 2 JR CB YES 83 85 87 51 51 2034 2 FR QB YES 52 71 72 -1 0 2065 1 FR CB YES 79 78 88 48 48 2069 1 FR LE YES 55 53 55 44 45 2080 1 FR MLB YES 65 52 79 50 50 2091 1 FR CB YES 78 79 86 43 44 2106 1 FR FS YES 72 70 72 57 56 2152 1 FR MLB YES 68 54 79 50 49 2173 1 FR CB YES 77 79 87 44 44 2205 1 JR WR YES 88 77 68 45 43 2220 1 FR SS YES 75 64 86 52 52 2258 1 FR CB YES 84 79 84 45 44 2327 1 JR CB YES 82 79 88 53 54 2328 1 FR CB YES 75 79 72 44 44
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09-13-2010, 01:40 PM | #38 |
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Re: Where Did The Speed Go?
I like how people keep arguing that not everyone is fast, andRB's have different skill traits which is why there is nothing wrong with the attributes, but then don't touch the fact that LB's are, by far, the fastest/quickest combination based on Speed/Acc that the game has to offer, which is very NOT realistic at all. And like what's been said. It isn't even the 5* Lb's, but the 3* Lbs.
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