NCAA Football 12 Blog - Custom Conferences

[illwill10]

Quote: Originally Posted by majesty95

Also, there has been nothing stating FCS teams will be generic Southwest, East, etc. They could be included but just not announced. I would refrain from criticizing something you are not sure hasn't been changed...

I was hoping/wishing that we could at least sub out the Generic FCS teams with TB teams. Or at least have the ability to edit the current FCS teams. I never face any of them in a dynasty because of the it was a automatic 56+-0 game. The only time I looked forward to a FCS team in NCAA was in RTG. because since there was only 5 min quarters I could stack up on stats

[dochalladay32]

Why did they take out the FCS teams anyway. I remember in the past gen, they had no problem throwing in tons of IAA/FCS teams. I never used them, but it was nice to have them show up on schedules.

[dpw1717]

If we were going to dismantle conferences, why not do it right? Let's just keep it somewhat simple. I don't understand why every other sport organizes teams geographically, except for college football. Sure, it kind of worked out that way for natural reasons, but it also gets really messed up. For instance, the WAC spreads from Hawai'i to Louisiana! Conference-USA form Carolina to Texas! Etc.*


Here is my answer, redo all the conferences so they're in geographical order. It saves the schools money, and will keep most rivalries intact, since most are in-state rivalries. The one thing you must do is make sure that a conference has all the teams from a given state. Thus, the 10 schools in Texas must all be in the same conference, same for the 7 from Florida and California, etc.


Here it is: 12 conferences, 10 teams each, you play 9 conference games and 3 non-conference games (scheduled at your will, just like normal). Each conference must play its top two teams in a championship game and name a conference champ. That would be the start of the bowl games is the conference championship game. Then you have 12 teams left and the way you seed it by total points scored. You then have to add 4 more teams to make the bracket right and the way to do that is by adding teams that played in the conference championship game and again by total points scored. When you start the playoffs it’s 16 teams and for the next three weeks are the playoffs for a total in the season of 17 weeks. The way I see it, it's still 12 games in the regular season (I believe stretched out over 14-15 weeks), and still 4 weeks in the post-season one week being the championship game. I added all the bowl games up for my new playoff system and it would be 25 and that’s less than 30 plus it has been.


In case you wanted an idea of how the conferences would look, I'll include that below. I take no responsibilities for bad conference names. I just now put this together, and making each conference have exactly 10 teams takes some wiggle room. I'm sure if it was actually to happen it could be perfected:






Southwest: California, Hawai'i, Nevada

California
Fresno State
Hawai'i
Nevada
San Diego State
San Jose State
Stanford
UCLA
UNLV
USC


Northwest: Idaho, Kansas, Nebraska, Oregon, Washington, Wyoming


Boise State
Idaho
Kansas
Kansas State
Nebraska
Oregon
Oregon State
Washington
Washington State
Wyoming


Four Corners: Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, Utah


Air Force
Arizona
Arizona State
Brigham Young
Colorado
Colorado State
New Mexico
New Mexico State
Utah
Utah State


Lone Star: Texas


Baylor
Houston
North Texas
Rice
Southern Methodist
TCU
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
UTEP


Louisiana Purchase: Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma


Arkansas
Arkansas State
Louisiana - Lafayette
Louisiana - Monroe
Louisiana Tech
LSU
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Tulane
Tulsa



Gulf Coast: Florida, Mississippi


FIU
Florida
Florida Atlantic
Florida State
Miami (FL)
Mississippi
Mississippi State
South Florida
Southern Miss
UCF



Southeast: Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee


Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Memphis
Middle Tennessee
Tennessee
Troy
UAB
Vanderbilt



Atlantic: New Jersey, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia


Clemson
Duke
East Carolina
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Rutgers
South Carolina
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest



Richland: Ohio, West Virginia


Akron
Bowling Green
Cincinnati
Kent State
Marshall
Miami (OH)
Ohio
Ohio State
Toledo
West Virginia



Great Plains: Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky, Missouri


Illinois
Iowa
Iowa State
Kentucky
Louisville
Missouri
Northern Illinois
Northwestern
Purdue
Western Kentucky



Great Lakes: Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin


Ball State
Central Michigan
Eastern Michigan
Indiana
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Notre Dame
Western Michigan
Wisconsin



New England: Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Pennsylvania


Army
Boston College
Buffalo
Connecticut
Maryland
Navy
Penn State
Pittsburgh
Syracuse
Temple

[majesty95]

Quote: Originally Posted by dochalladay32

Why did they take out the FCS teams anyway. I remember in the past gen, they had no problem throwing in tons of IAA/FCS teams. I never used them, but it was nice to have them show up on schedules.

It most likely had to do with memory and time. What most people don't realize when complaining about what is or is not in a game is that there is a finite amount of data the game disc can store and olny so many resources they can allocate to a particular item.

When the game moved to next gen they essentially had to build the game from scratch, so all of the resources were in the gameplay and the FBS teams, players and stadiums. Then their attention shifted to tuning and adding new features to help sagging sales. With most of their resources dedicated to new innovations and improving existing features I'm sure they just simply haven't had the time or resources to dedicate to adding another 126 schools with full rosters and uniforms.

I'm sure adding FCS teams is on the list of things to add somewhere down the road but everyone has to realize that when that decision is made, the time spent on improving existing features and especially adding new ones will be significantly decreased. I think the best way to appease the fans who want FCS and also those demanding innovation and new features is to add just the top 25 FCS teams then the following year fill out the top five or six conferences. They could stop there or if memory permits, fill out one or two more conferences each year until all FCS teams are included. There is just no way it will happen all at once however.

[dochalladay32]

Quote: Originally Posted by dpw1717

For the sake of space...

I hope you don't plan on implementing your complete idea in game because you must have 12 teams in order to have a conference title game. A title game is also pointless if you play a round robin; your champion is already determined because everyone played each other.

[dpw1717]

Quote: Originally Posted by dochalladay32

I hope you don't plan on implementing your complete idea in game because you must have 12 teams in order to have a conference title game. A title game is also pointless if you play a round robin; your champion is already determined because everyone played each other.

Not once did I say anything about a round robin and is that an NCAA rule you have to have 12 teams to have a conference title game if so do you have a link?

[majesty95]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yukon46

They say they cant go above 120 teams.... But all of the blank FCS teams, that we cant edit, are in the game too ! So let us replace those FCS teams with TeamBuilder teams, are atleast let us edit the FCS teams !

I think editing generic FCS schools is possible and would be a passable alternative in the meantime. However, I can see how capping the teams FBS at 120 is necessary.

To allow the league to expand to 130 ro 140 ro even more teams there would have to be a complete overhaul of the system. The coding that it would take to accomodate that would be enormous. They would have to account for adding new conferences (which may be easier now), adjusitng schedules and scheduling logic, bowl selection, poll logic, etc. It seems like ti wuld atake an awful lot of resources to code that ability and would significantly detract from new features.

With that being said, I think the things they are adding like complete custom conferences and changes to scheduling logic will make that possible and easier to implement down the line. It is something we may see in two years after adding custom bowls and improving the custom conferences and schedules based off of this year's feedback.

[majesty95]

Quote: Originally Posted by dpw1717

Not once did I say anything about a round robin and is that an NCAA rule you have to have 12 teams to have a conference title game if so do you have a link?

Not sure where to find a link but yes it is an NCAA rule that you hav to have 12 teams to hold a conference championship game (which is why the BIg 10 added Nebraska so they could hold a championship game) and it is implemented this way in the game.