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  • 1212headkick
    Banned
    • Mar 2018
    • 1823

    #1

    This is the circle out we need

    http://i.giphy.com/13rAVaFrumhUjK.gif And I’m sorry but if you argue against having it your robbing the game of realism. Conor did this ALL FIGHT LONG he still took damage. Nate still pressures. Look at least make it at advanced lunge for characters who’ve done it in fights. There’s not enough in the game. You are making the cage more sticky and this looks WAY BETTER than the long guard. It’s not op. It’s just you shouldn’t be so wreckless
  • Bigg Cee
    MVP
    • Apr 2016
    • 4676

    #2
    Re: This is the circle out we need

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    • rabbitfistssaipailo
      MVP
      • Nov 2017
      • 1625

      #3
      Re: This is the circle out we need

      LMAO ...man that was such a fight .

      But knowing the community abuse is sure to ensue if this is introduced .

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      • 1212headkick
        Banned
        • Mar 2018
        • 1823

        #4
        Re: This is the circle out we need

        Originally posted by rabbitfistssaipailo
        LMAO ...man that was such a fight .

        But knowing the community abuse is sure to ensue if this is introduced .

        Sent from my Infinix Zero 4 using Operation Sports mobile app
        Nah man they changed how cutting off the cage works. Just swap the long guard out with this. Simple. Have a stamina tax on it long term just like long guard. We have brilliant devs and I know they are capable of this. It also would let us create angles

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        • xtremeba1000
          Pro
          • Aug 2017
          • 772

          #5
          Re: This is the circle out we need

          Originally posted by Bigg Cee
          Nate slaps him in the face the first time he does it

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          • rabbitfistssaipailo
            MVP
            • Nov 2017
            • 1625

            #6
            Re: This is the circle out we need

            For that to happen the camera angles would have to be reworked ...or maybe not as you can switch corners ( sides ) on your opponent .



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            • 1212headkick
              Banned
              • Mar 2018
              • 1823

              #7
              Re: This is the circle out we need

              Penalize players in the decision who run and reward those who constantly pressure effectively(thompson vs till) let it show in control time. Cage control is more than grappling

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              • Nugget7211
                MVP
                • Nov 2017
                • 1401

                #8
                Re: This is the circle out we need

                Why do you want this before we have tight pivots? Like, nowhere in that gif does McGregor get off the fence, he just runs to a different part of the fence

                Also, Diaz having terrible pressure footwork is pretty much the only reason this works.
                **** off, Nugget7211 - GPD, 2017 & 2018
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                • 1212headkick
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 1823

                  #9
                  Re: This is the circle out we need

                  Originally posted by Nugget7211
                  Why do you want this before we have tight pivots? Like, nowhere in that gif does McGregor get off the fence, he just runs to a different part of the fence

                  Also, Diaz having terrible pressure footwork is pretty much the only reason this works.
                  Happened all fight long in gus vs Jones and SEVERAL mma fights. It’s basic footwork to move in a hundred eighty degree half circle. The pivots are nowhere near as effective as this. Again if you want a realistic game it’s gotta go in. No questions asked. It’s basic movement in boxing and mma
                  Last edited by 1212headkick; 05-30-2018, 04:08 PM. Reason: Typo

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                  • aholbert32
                    (aka Alberto)
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 33106

                    #10
                    Re: This is the circle out we need

                    Originally posted by Bigg Cee
                    I cant believe Im saying this but you can already do this in the game...pre patch. Post patch it will likely be easier. In the Gif, Diaz isnt really pressuring and lets him out once Conor lunges/circles out. The in game issue is actually what you see at the end of the gif.

                    I dont have a problem with movement if someone is willing to give me space. Especially with someone like Wonderboy. The problem I have is that if someone is at the distance Diaz is at the end of the gif and pressing forward with strikes, I cant circle out even and make space even if i lunge away and circle.

                    That will change with the new patch. I still question if it will be enough though.

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                    • Nugget7211
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2017
                      • 1401

                      #11
                      Re: This is the circle out we need

                      Originally posted by 1212headkick
                      Happened all fight long in his vs Jones and SEVERAL mma fights. It’s basic footwork to move in a hundred degree half circle. The pivots are nowhere near as effective as this. Again if you want a realistic game it’s gotta go in. No questions asked. It’s basic movement in boxing and mma
                      We're clearly not going to agree if you think jogging away from someone is at all good footwork, because it isn't. It severely compromises your stance and therefore your ability to counter or take shots, it's less energy efficient and doesn't give you as much space as a tighter pivot would and it doesn't actually take your back off the fence in anyway, it literally just moves you around the cage.

                      I know it happens in mma fights, but we also see UFC fighters short arm punches, bend at the waist when shooting doubles, hold onto a guillotine in side control, taking down a dude locking up a standing ezekiel. None of those things are good technique at all, and I would much prefer having the good energy efficient safer option in a tight pivot before they add the ****ty technique version that doesn't work half as well.
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                      • 1212headkick
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2018
                        • 1823

                        #12
                        Re: This is the circle out we need

                        Originally posted by aholbert32
                        I cant believe Im saying this but you can already do this in the game...pre patch. Post patch it will likely be easier. In the Gif, Diaz isnt really pressuring and lets him out once Conor lunges/circles out. The in game issue is actually what you see at the end of the gif.

                        I dont have a problem with movement if someone is willing to give me space. Especially with someone like Wonderboy. The problem I have is that if someone is at the distance Diaz is at the end of the gif and pressing forward with strikes, I cant circle out even and make space even if i lunge away and circle.

                        That will change with the new patch. I still question if it will be enough though.
                        That is not true at all you can’t do the exact footwork I’m asking to be on here’s another example. You can’t literally run away from your opponent like this. I’m not asking to run all over the cage. Just a half circle simple movement like this. Here’s Nate doing it https://m.imgur.com/4dnHD0p

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                        • 1212headkick
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 1823

                          #13
                          Re: This is the circle out we need

                          Originally posted by Nugget7211
                          We're clearly not going to agree if you think jogging away from someone is at all good footwork, because it isn't. It severely compromises your stance and therefore your ability to counter or take shots, it's less energy efficient and doesn't give you as much space as a tighter pivot would and it doesn't actually take your back off the fence in anyway, it literally just moves you around the cage.

                          I know it happens in mma fights, but we also see UFC fighters short arm punches, bend at the waist when shooting doubles, hold onto a guillotine in side control, taking down a dude locking up a standing ezekiel. None of those things are good technique at all, and I would much prefer having the good energy efficient safer option in a tight pivot before they add the ****ty technique version that doesn't work half as well.
                          Doesn’t work well? It almost won Gustafson the fight against jones

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                          • rabbitfistssaipailo
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2017
                            • 1625

                            #14
                            Re: This is the circle out we need

                            Moving backwards in a straight line out of the pocket is a death sentence in MMA and boxing ...fighters often move backwards in the circular motion or something other than the straight backwards movement .

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                            • aholbert32
                              (aka Alberto)
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 33106

                              #15
                              This is the circle out we need

                              Originally posted by 1212headkick
                              That is not true at all you can’t do the exact footwork I’m asking to be on here’s another example. You can’t literally run away from your opponent like this. I’m not asking to run all over the cage. Just a half circle simple movement like this. Here’s Nate doing it https://m.imgur.com/4dnHD0p

                              That wasn’t a half circle simple movement. Conor circled and ran. And you can circle and back dash. It isn’t a great idea but you can do it to create space against someone who isn’t pressuring.

                              Now if you want the exact animation that Conor did, you can’t do that. I also don’t think many people would want that because it could be exploited.


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                              Last edited by aholbert32; 05-30-2018, 04:28 PM.

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