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Old 11-28-2017, 09:08 AM   #1
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Scientific Study Proves Single Collar Uppercuts Need More Power!

(First off, Mods, please don't close this thread, i know it's about the Beta but I think it's a worthy stand-alone topic)

Last night I performed a very scientific experiment, see below for the video



Starting a fresh fight, I put my opponent in the single collar clinch. I then land three short uppercuts; wait approx 1 second to recharge my stamina; and land 3 more.

Some key points:

* I landed approx 60 uppercuts before my opponent began to experience 'appreciable' damage

* At approx. 60 uppercuts landed, my opponent's health bar started to flash. I believe this means he was rocked? At that point he finally DID start to take some significant damage. Uppercuts #61 thru #100 did like twice as much damage as Uppercuts #1 thru 60.

* At some point his Head bar gets to like 10%. I believe this was at about uppercut #100 or 110? His head was still flashing. BUt even though his head health was nearly 0.....I was able to land another 40+ uppercuts in single collar clinch without any knockdown or knockout/etc.

* I decided to throw in some ELBOWS from single collar .... landed a dozen or so of those, no difference

* I finally give him some mercy and to to MT Clinch; land one Elbow; and it's a flash KO


Please consider giving SC strikes more damage. I would say they need about 2x the damage.

Also, please please please consider adding knockdowns/knockouts from SC clinch. 130+ unanswered uppercuts and a dozen elbows .... should lead to a KO .... I know it's only the Beta and maybe you don't have the animaitons/etc.

But I want to dirty box the **** out of people!!! And I can't really do it in single collar. Sad panda.



P.S. Single Collar Strikes don't take much stamina. Perhaps we can double their stamina cost, but also double their damage? And/or make it so they cause the striker to lose more Grapple Advantage?

I definitely don't want every match to be a clinch-fest, but if I put a 'runner' in the clinch as a shorter grinder-type fighter...I need to be able to do damage, besides from MT!
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Old 11-28-2017, 09:11 AM   #2
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Re: Scientific Study Proves Single Collar Uppercuts Need More Power!

I think single collar clinch strikes should do more damage as well but well-tuned and balance so it's not OP.
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Old 11-28-2017, 09:11 AM   #3
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Re: Scientific Study Proves Single Collar Uppercuts Need More Power!

Agreed with everything here

Clinch strikes should do good damage but make it easy for the opp to break free if timed right

One of the wort designs if the autobreak from a clinch knee. Just make it easier to escape
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The clinch engage is so slow and people just walk away now and when u do get there all u have is those baby shots


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Re: Scientific Study Proves Single Collar Uppercuts Need More Power!

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The clinch engage is so slow and people just walk away now and when u do get there all u have is those baby shots


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Yea I didn't try clinch/ground too much last night (besides my little experiment) but the few times I did, seemed it was really hard to get ahold of opponent. I'll play w/ it a lot more tonite.

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We need clinch punch health events.
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Old 11-28-2017, 03:05 PM   #7
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We need clinch punch health events.
Yes definitely. There are many times 'in real life' where an opponent is significantly hurt, or even finished, out of the clinch (especially against the cage)

Hopefully not too late to patch something in....
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It would be more realistic but would get spammed so badly the game would be unplayable. Think about getting kneed in the mt clinch in UFC 2 and getting KO'd with one knee. If you could rock someone in single collar, then all youd have to do is transition to MT clinch and it's all over.
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