The ground game is broken, please fix it

[killakrok]

Quote: Originally Posted by Nekrotik

If you're anything other than a grappler in UT, you cannot defend grappling at all. You can deny takedowns or transitions all you want, it just doesn't work. The denial windows are a tad too short.

I think the imbalance is a UT thing in general. The stats are so skewed in one direction that you are decent/good at one thing and terrible at everything else, even with gold cards. I have golds that have 80-90 in everything on the ground and I can do fine, but they have 60's in standup and I get demolished. My striker has 70-80s in standup and I can hang, but 60's in clinch/ground and I can't deny a takedown even if I see it coming.

The UT fighters are so skewed towards one direction that being good at one thing means you are terrible at others, the difference is just a little easier to see and more frustrating on the ground, but when I try to strike with my gold grappler with 65 speed and power it feels just as useless.

[EarvGotti]

This is how i get out of mount

[jdscott1224]

Honestly Mount is easier to get out of than side control.

The side control side saddle combo is way more deadly they just hold you in at the whole time and you only have two ways to go so it's very easy to deny everything.

They wipe out all of your stanima either go for a submissions or you just get hit in the face.

They need to fix the side control side saddle and that people can just Spam clinch and have no repercussions and they'll just keep doing it.


Regular takedowns are easy to stop but then if they have GSP they can just grab your leg after you missed a takedown put you inside control instantly and there's no way you're getting out because there's only two ways to go it's awfully balanced literally every ranked match guy spams clinch gets takedown go to side saddle doesn't even try to get mount.

There's really no point to use Strikers you have to use grapple Fighters with excellent grapple. You confuse a fighter with mediocre striking and still beat people on the feet

if anybody has any tips or videos to help you get out of side control and side saddle when people just hold you there would be really helpful. Thanks.

[LittleEvil]

Quote: Originally Posted by jdscott1224

Honestly Mount is easier to get out of than side control. The side control side saddle combo is way more deadly they just hold you in at the whole time and you only have two ways to go so it's very easy to deny everything. They wipe out all of your stanima either go for a submissions or you just get hit in the face. They need to fix the side control side saddle and that people can just Spam clinch and have no repercussions and they'll just keep doing it. Regular takedowns are easy to stop but then if they have GSP they can just grab your leg after you missed a takedown put you inside control instantly and there's no way you're getting out because there's only two ways to go it's awfully balanced literally every ranked match guy spams clinch gets takedown go to side saddle doesn't even try to get mount. There's really no point to use Strikers you have to use grapple Fighters with excellent grapple. You confuse a fighter with mediocre striking and still beat people on the feet if anybody has any tips or videos to help you get out of side control and side saddle when people just hold you there would be really helpful. Thanks.

100% agree. Whats crazy is side control was an issue dating back to the very first game. And they still haven't gotten it right.......

[jdscott1224]

Quote: Originally Posted by LittleEvil

100% agree. Whats crazy is side control was an issue dating back to the very first game. And they still haven't gotten it right.......

So true it's actually gotten worse. I mean the first one was really bad but this one's getting pretty close.

[YourFatZebra]

I think we should be more alarmed by the fact that there are two entirely different camps arguing about the same thing in the same game.

Half of us seem to think the grappling is broken, unresponsive, laggy, and frustrating. Takedowns are hard to land, transitions are constantly blocked.

Half of us seem to think the grappling is overpowered, unstoppable, impossible to deny. Takedowns are hard to deny, denials are never registered.

What's worse, is that some of what I'm seeing (myself included) is people saying their having BOTH of these experiences! How can the system be so inconsistent that at times it feels unresponsive and laggy then the next fight can feel overpowered?