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  • The Relaxed Guy
    Banned
    • Apr 2016
    • 211

    #1

    Undisputed 3 grappling video

    UFC Undisputed 3 is frequently used as a benchmark for what an MMA game's grappling should look like. With all the talk about EA UFC 3's ground game, I figured I'd post this old vid just as a reference for people.

    At the time, I didn't realize this would be my only surviving UD3 grappling video. So this was just a random ranked fight and it doesn't showcase all the intricacies of the ground game, particularly with back control and cage work.
    **Also, it's recorded from an iPad. I fix the camera angle after round 1. Its still decent quality and clearly shows the fight.**

    The main thing I want people to take away from this is how realistically you could emulate a grinding, smothering style. Note the underhook battle early where my opponent seems to be holding his own, then how my persistence gradually overwhelms him as the fight goes on until he's broken. You could actually use Fitch realistically.

    Again, I'm playing as Fitch, so I'm purposely trying to smother and grind my opponent. I'm also using more of a wrestling style as opposed to a BJJ style, so my emphasis was on control and pressure as opposed to passing, taking the back, etc.

    In my opinion, UD3 is still unlike any other MMA game to date, in that it gave you the freedom to grapple how you wanted. You could not just strike, but grapple like the fighter you picked. You could even dominate off your back. The depth is IMO still unrivaled.







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  • Morgan Monkman
    North of 60
    • Apr 2016
    • 1385

    #2
    Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video

    Turn based grappling is the best and only way to go!

    You actually felt like you were transitioning, not waiting for a stupid meter to fill.

    Who would have though blocking left would actually block left?!?!?

    Why must my blocking for transitions be based off camera angles and not the actual way the guy is transitioning???
    PSNID: B_A_N_E

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    • The Relaxed Guy
      Banned
      • Apr 2016
      • 211

      #3
      Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video

      Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
      Turn based grappling is the best and only way to go!



      You actually felt like you were transitioning, not waiting for a stupid meter to fill.



      Who would have though blocking left would actually block left?!?!?



      Why must my blocking for transitions be based off camera angles and not the actual way the guy is transitioning???


      Yeah. The meter fill thing, despite it's positives for game balance, completely kills the immersion. You're more focused on "gaming the meter" and working for grapple advantage, than just grappling.


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      • Morgan Monkman
        North of 60
        • Apr 2016
        • 1385

        #4
        Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video

        Originally posted by The Relaxed Guy
        Yeah. The meter fill thing, despite it's positives for game balance, completely kills the immersion. You're more focused on "gaming the meter" and working for grapple advantage, than just grappling.


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        i have been watching a lot of Combat Jiu Jitsu lately and i don't see people gaining grappling advantage and becoming able to advance from landing baby punches, whats up with that?!?!
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        • Find_the_Door
          Nogueira connoisseur
          • Jan 2012
          • 4051

          #5
          Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video

          One thing Undisputed definitely had right for sure - GNP and posturing up and down.
          Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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          • The Relaxed Guy
            Banned
            • Apr 2016
            • 211

            #6
            Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video

            Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
            i have been watching a lot of Combat Jiu Jitsu lately and i don't see people gaining grappling advantage and becoming able to advance from landing baby punches, whats up with that?!?!


            No I was watching Andre Galvao the other day and there was definitely a yellow circle filling up above his head


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            • Stealthhh
              Pro
              • Nov 2017
              • 516

              #7
              Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video

              That was some beautiful grappling.

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              • bmlimo
                MVP
                • Apr 2016
                • 1123

                #8
                Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video

                The grappling was by far more fluid...

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                • aholbert32
                  (aka Alberto)
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 33106

                  #9
                  Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video

                  Part of it is that UD3 has more grappling animations. Still I preferred GNP on UD3. Doesnt mean EA needs to trash its grappling system. Just add more animations and tweak it so that its closer to UD3 imo.

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                  • tissues250
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 1526

                    #10
                    Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video

                    Yeah, It was good but I don't want just circling right stick over and over. Hopefully, they will develop the grappling game based on currently mechanics.

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                    • MysticJack541
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2017
                      • 253

                      #11
                      Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video

                      Originally posted by The Relaxed Guy
                      UFC Undisputed 3 is frequently used as a benchmark for what an MMA game's grappling should look like. With all the talk about EA UFC 3's ground game, I figured I'd post this old vid just as a reference for people.

                      At the time, I didn't realize this would be my only surviving UD3 grappling video. So this was just a random ranked fight and it doesn't showcase all the intricacies of the ground game, particularly with back control and cage work.
                      **Also, it's recorded from an iPad. I fix the camera angle after round 1. Its still decent quality and clearly shows the fight.**

                      The main thing I want people to take away from this is how realistically you could emulate a grinding, smothering style. Note the underhook battle early where my opponent seems to be holding his own, then how my persistence gradually overwhelms him as the fight goes on until he's broken. You could actually use Fitch realistically.

                      Again, I'm playing as Fitch, so I'm purposely trying to smother and grind my opponent. I'm also using more of a wrestling style as opposed to a BJJ style, so my emphasis was on control and pressure as opposed to passing, taking the back, etc.

                      In my opinion, UD3 is still unlike any other MMA game to date, in that it gave you the freedom to grapple how you wanted. You could not just strike, but grapple like the fighter you picked. You could even dominate off your back. The depth is IMO still unrivaled.







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                      I remember playing you on UD3, KungPaoKitties, and I actually liked fighting you despite getting my *** handed to me numerous times, your grappling is excellent, I wish they made UD3 backwards compatible.

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                      • Paledude45
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2018
                        • 247

                        #12
                        Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video

                        From what I understand the devs are fixing the ground issue, at least stat-wise. Looking forward to seeing the changes. I'm tired of getting my head drilled into the canvas easily by GSP players online. Hopefully the ground game feels smoother and more responsive post-patch.
                        Last edited by Paledude45; 03-01-2018, 03:03 PM.

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                        • TheGentlemanGhost
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2016
                          • 1321

                          #13
                          Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video

                          This is one of the main reasons I still play U3, I love the grappling. I really do not like having to time denials in the correct direction to keep a position in EA UFC. The only thing I didn't like about U3 grappling is the same thing that has bothered me in EVERY modern MMA game, which is the insta-sweeps that are just too easy too pull off in these games.

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                          • The Relaxed Guy
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 211

                            #14
                            Undisputed 3 grappling video

                            Originally posted by tissues250
                            Yeah, It was good but I don't want just circling right stick over and over. Hopefully, they will develop the grappling game based on currently mechanics.


                            I don't understand that complaint "just circling the stick over and over". You have something against circles? Would you prefer triangles?

                            That's like saying "Fifa is such a lame game, you literally just hold a controller and press buttons over and over".

                            If all you did on UD3 was pick up a controller, sit in a chair, and make constant nonstop circles with the right stick, you missed out.




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                            Last edited by The Relaxed Guy; 03-01-2018, 03:42 PM.

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                            • cincinnati30
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 20

                              #15
                              Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video

                              It is EA’s 3rd game. UD3 provided the blueprint. And most everyone says it was excellent. So why is gnp and etc not what we all agree is best? From a dev standpoint, it has to be possible to make it like UD3.


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