Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video
Honestly even the striking was more solid in sim mode without the floatiness and spam of UFC 3.
Honestly even the striking was more solid in sim mode without the floatiness and spam of UFC 3.
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Undisputed 3 grappling video
I'd argue the striking felt and looked more realistic on UD3 than EA UFC 3, especially in sim mode.
I had 5 round fights on UD3 using Aldo or Maynard that I wish I recorded, they were the most satisfying and realistic matches I've ever played. I would use Aldo exactly how he fights. You could stand there, holding block, checking leg kicks and just blocking ****. Snap off a lightning fast leg kick every 2-3 minutes. Couple super powerful 1-2s here and there. Sudden bursts of fast head movement without throwing strikes. Stuffing takedowns left and right. Purposely passing up on offensive opportunities just to further emulate the 2011 era Aldo style.
I mean literally you could fight EXACTLY like the fighter you picked. I'd pick Maynard and just stand there, slowly plotting forward while doing nothing, then whenever I was in the pocket I'd launch a couple hard hooks. Steal the round with a takedown in the final minute and just lay on top. Exactly how he fought Florian lol.
You could literally pick Jake Shields, walk forward with a stiff stance, get your *** beat, but land some weak lead-leg body kicks and fail a bunch of takedowns and win a split decision. YOU COULD USE MACHIDA PROPERLY. I'm talking 15ish strikes per round, all counters. Sudden karate blitzes when opponent gets restless... he had custom strikes.
I mean, a lot of people really don't understand the full level of realism and depth UD3 had because hardly anyone played it right. Just look on YouTube to see the horrible, spammy showcases of the game. The striking could look horrible, but with some effort, it could surpass any game today. For example, my grappling in the video in the OP was not typical. That was a concerted effort to emulate Fitch. Striking was the same way, it required a concerted effort.
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Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video
Are you guys discounting the transition flick, or considering it in the comparison?Comment
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Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video
They would need to fix it to where you can’t just keep flicking without a major stamina hit for each Miss. With that one fix in place, I think it’s the perfect grappling system.
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I'm Not taking anything away at all from U3,it was absolutely ground breaking at the time,and head and shoulders above any other MMA game for it's time. Some of the stuff in that game is still better than what we ate seeing now. All I'm saying is that the striking is not one of the things that stood out in the game,not the stand up anyways. Ground and pound looked great,but the stand up was very robotic and stiff,even by last gen standards. I'm definitely not trying to discount an amazing MMA game, Im just saying let's give credit where it's due. Not everyone loves EA UFC but the moving and striking are on a whole nother level,from a stand up perspective.
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Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video
Too bad it took introducing Rubix cube controls to get it [emoji3]
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Undisputed 3 grappling video
The flick-based exploits were a plague that destroyed the competitive scene of the game. My assessment of the game's potential is focused entirely on the assumption that flick-based exploits don't take place, whether from a theoretical patch, or mutual agreement not to use them. I'm just assessing the core game itself.
I'm not under appreciating the negative impact flick-based exploits had on gameplay, but it was the only significant exploit. Plus, it was totally fixable without overhauling the game, and THQ supposedly had a patch made to address it, shortly before going bankrupt. Not to mention, respectable players didn't use it against each other. It was just one well-known exploit that could easily be avoided to enjoy the game.
I'm not defending it at all, I just try not to let that one horrible problem overshadow everything the game did right. I guess I should say, UD3, WITHOUT flick-based exploits, was a great game. The potential a patch could have unleashed would have been sky high.
Besides, I never tried to argue that UD3, during its lifetime, had the best competitive meta of any game. That would be horridly false (though a single patch would have fixed that). It's the gameplay and depth that deserves appreciation and recognition, and it should be emulated by future UFC games.
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Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video
UD3 had a great flow betw striking and grappling that I really liked. Also loved the UD3 takedowns/clinch and ground and pound styles/animations. It just looked better.
EA ground animations are a bit too glitchy and rubbery looking. Plus unpostured strikes lack variation and damage. I like the way posturing up works in EA UFC, but I think the animation could be tweaked to look more realistic.
Incorporate UD3 grappling mechanics into EA UFC and fix EA’s grapple animations I’ll be set for life.
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Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video
The ground and pound and clinch strikes were so unique for fighters too. I remember in career mode when you could learn all the variations of clinch strikes, like shoulder strikes, hammer fists, elbows, etc.
and all the small positional changes. Being able to go from top of sitting against the cage into a single leg position while hes still against the cage so if he tries to get up you could single leg him if your single was better for your double,
there were just so many little loving things they did in that game to make it feel real. Every position felt *mostly* like a real position in fighting, not just one of the like 8 actual ground positions.
****, there's still no butterfly guard in EA UFC.Comment
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Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video
undisputed 3 would look the same if they had a bar to watch when transitioning,if you turn all huds off in EA ufc 3 there would be nothing to look at would there ?Comment
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I absolutely love this!!!
Just watching the video, I could almost feel the pressure of having someone on top of me, and the struggle/panic of what are my options to get out of here.
Another cool thing that video illustrates is that even though the entire round was tense and action packed. They didn't have to throw 300 strikes a round to make it feel that way. In Undisputed 3 EVERY strike from EVERY position mattered, and you didn't need to throw a million strikes to get a sense of pace/action.
I miss you UD3...Comment
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Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video
We also need easy take downs when people are throwing those heavy combo hooks like when someone would throw a heavy hook or uppercut in U3 and can quickly put em on their butt.
But at the same time that lag needs to be addressed first. I'm gonna be pissed if I get caught with a take down just trying to throw a 2 hook combo but my fighter ends up throwing 5 hooks while getting taken down on the 3 hook lol.
But it would really be a nice realistic balancing act for these overaggressive fighters.Comment
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Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video
Damn... watching that just reminded of how bad the ground game is in UFC3. Imagine how good this game would be with UD3’s ground and clinch game.Comment
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Re: Undisputed 3 grappling video
Undisputed 3 also had the one thing that makes EA UFC's striking game feel alien - ACTUAL TKO stoppages.Comment
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