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  • Knight165
    *ll St*r
    • Feb 2003
    • 24964

    #61
    Re: Player Gear

    Originally posted by JMan350Z
    Interesting.

    THAT, is the response I was looking for. Appreciate your insight.
    I wasn't trying to be a dick(although I succeeded it looks like)
    .....but it's been discussed ad nauseam ....myself posting it multiple times.


    M.K.
    Knight165
    All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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    • JHedges2
      MVP
      • Jan 2007
      • 4651

      #62
      Re: Player Gear

      Originally posted by Knight165
      I wasn't trying to be a dick(although I succeeded it looks like)
      .....but it's been discussed ad nauseam ....myself posting it multiple times.


      M.K.
      Knight165
      No worries. It seemed a little unnecessarily sarcastic, but nonetheless, I do apprecaite your insight.

      I apologize if it's already been discussed. I've been on 360 for the last however many years, only switching to PS4 about 2 weeks ago. So I haven't completely scoured these threads.

      Just remember, not all of us have 21,000 posts here
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      • Knight165
        *ll St*r
        • Feb 2003
        • 24964

        #63
        Re: Player Gear

        Originally posted by JMan350Z
        No worries. It seemed a little unnecessarily sarcastic, but nonetheless, I do apprecaite your insight.

        I apologize if it's already been discussed. I've been on 360 for the last however many years, only switching to PS4 about 2 weeks ago. So I haven't completely scoured these threads.

        Just remember, not all of us have 21,000 posts here
        Yeah.....but it's more like 5,000.....I'm constantly having to repeat myself!!!



        M.K.
        Knight165
        All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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        • The_Duke
          Banned
          • Feb 2014
          • 114

          #64
          Re: Player Gear

          Hey knight I think I remember you saying that you saw something new for maybe the create a player but never saw you mention what it was. Does that ring a bell? Care to elaborate?

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          • Knight165
            *ll St*r
            • Feb 2003
            • 24964

            #65
            Re: Player Gear

            Originally posted by The_Duke
            Hey knight I think I remember you saying that you saw something new for maybe the create a player but never saw you mention what it was. Does that ring a bell? Care to elaborate?
            At the time...nobody knew that potential was editable.
            It's new in the editor on a sliding scale from 1-99.

            There might be some other equip/stance/motion and visual changes as well...but I can't be sure as they were working on it when we were there.

            M.K.
            Knight165
            All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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            • Factzzz
              FA
              • Aug 2011
              • 1655

              #66
              Re: Player Gear

              Originally posted by Knight165
              At the time...nobody knew that potential was editable.
              It's new in the editor on a sliding scale from 1-99.

              There might be some other equip/stance/motion and visual changes as well...but I can't be sure as they were working on it when we were there.

              M.K.
              Knight165
              In the fact sheet there says there are some new stances and motions but nothing about new equipment, but do you think there's a chance there is new equipment, and they just left it off the fact sheet?
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              • Knight165
                *ll St*r
                • Feb 2003
                • 24964

                #67
                Re: Player Gear

                Originally posted by Factzzz
                In the fact sheet there says there are some new stances and motions but nothing about new equipment, but do you think there's a chance there is new equipment, and they just left it off the fact sheet?
                I don't really know.
                Sorry.

                M.K.
                Knight165
                All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                • Madden's Jowels
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1249

                  #68
                  Re: Player Gear

                  You would think that the athletic companies would want to get their gear into these games, it's basically free advertising. It's a win win for both Sony and Nike (or whoever), Sony gets more customization options for their game, Nike gets advertising for their brand and even specific products.


                  I guess I just wonder where the line is that makes this different than other forms of product placement. In some cases the company pays to get their name put on things to enhance their brand (i.e. Staples pays to have their name on the Staples Center, Budweiser pays to have a can of Bud Light facing the camera in a TV show) and in other cases they charge somebody to use their name (Nike charging to have their gear used in a game)



                  Maybe somebody with a better understanding of advertising, branding and just economic principles in general could explain this to me lol

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                  • Knight165
                    *ll St*r
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 24964

                    #69
                    Re: Player Gear

                    Originally posted by Madden's Jowels
                    You would think that the athletic companies would want to get their gear into these games, it's basically free advertising. It's a win win for both Sony and Nike (or whoever), Sony gets more customization options for their game, Nike gets advertising for their brand and even specific products.


                    I guess I just wonder where the line is that makes this different than other forms of product placement. In some cases the company pays to get their name put on things to enhance their brand (i.e. Staples pays to have their name on the Staples Center, Budweiser pays to have a can of Bud Light facing the camera in a TV show) and in other cases they charge somebody to use their name (Nike charging to have their gear used in a game)



                    Maybe somebody with a better understanding of advertising, branding and just economic principles in general could explain this to me lol

                    My guess is it's pretty close to how much it's worth if they have the game companies pay....or give them for free and get the exposure...
                    Then they also see that some companies will dish out the bucks...so they get the best of both worlds......$$$ from the companies and advertising from the exposure.
                    If they charge EA....and give it to SCEA....how long do you think EA would keep paying?

                    M.K.
                    Knight165
                    All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                    • CJ10
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 340

                      #70
                      Re: Player Gear

                      Each individual item for name brand things does not have to be purchased separately. If that was the case FIFA, Madden, NBA 2k, the NHL game none of them would have enough money to do anything else with all the variety of gear they put in their game.

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                      • Knight165
                        *ll St*r
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 24964

                        #71
                        Re: Player Gear

                        Originally posted by CJ10
                        Each individual item for name brand things does not have to be purchased separately. If that was the case FIFA, Madden, NBA 2k, the NHL game none of them would have enough money to do anything else with all the variety of gear they put in their game.
                        No matter how many times you post it....it's not going to change the fact that for The Show....they do need to be purchased if not "individually".....at least added to the negotiations one by one. Paying Nike for the t-shirts did not give them access across the board.
                        This is straight from one of the devs.
                        What in the world is wrong with you people?

                        M.K.
                        Knight165
                        All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                        • Russell_SCEA
                          SCEA Community Manager
                          • May 2005
                          • 4161

                          #72
                          Re: Player Gear

                          Originally posted by CJ10
                          Each individual item for name brand things does not have to be purchased separately. If that was the case FIFA, Madden, NBA 2k, the NHL game none of them would have enough money to do anything else with all the variety of gear they put in their game.
                          Really? Please please enlighten us on what the MLB, MLB players association have to do with soccer, football and basketball?

                          How are they connected?

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                          • ShowTyme15
                            LADetermined
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 11853

                            #73
                            Re: Player Gear

                            Originally posted by Knight165
                            No matter how many times you post it....it's not going to change the fact that for The Show....they do need to be purchased if not "individually".....at least added to the negotiations one by one. Paying Nike for the t-shirts did not give them access across the board.
                            This is straight from one of the devs.
                            What in the world is wrong with you people?

                            M.K.
                            Knight165
                            Some people just don't like the answer you give them so conspiracy theories happen and then you get "well EA this 2K that" as that is people trying to justify you're wrong and they are right.............. But I'm sure you already know this as I'm just preaching to the choir at this point.

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                            • Knight165
                              *ll St*r
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 24964

                              #74
                              Re: Player Gear

                              What's killing me is.....in the past Community Events.....we would take the questions prior to the event from the community here.
                              It's likely that one of the guys who keeps saying "it can't be"(paraphrasing) ...is one of the guys who asked the question....that absurdly....I printed out and went "dev hunting" to ask!


                              M.K.
                              Knight165
                              All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                              • Madden's Jowels
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 1249

                                #75
                                Re: Player Gear

                                I think my biggest thing I'm hoping for this year is that the player editor (specifically in RTTS) will show our player's actual team colors when we edit our gear. I can't tell you how much I hate seeing this:





                                Generic red/white/blue color scheme. Meanwhile I'm trying to guess what Team Color 1 and Team Color 2 and Team Color 3 are and trying to imagine it all in my head.

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