MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[Knight165]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

How is Arizona doing?
Although a little older....Miguel Montero might be a viable option as well.

M.K.
Knight165

[NDAlum]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Appreciate the input. Right now my thought process is:

#1 - I want Castro. To me he could be a long-term solution in my Pirates win-now state of mind. If I'm a Pirates fan and I see the team give up a couple pieces for Castro I'm pumped with the front office. They are clearly trying to pull out all the stops to win.

With my McGuire/Heredia package is that fair and halfway real given the state of my franchise?

#2 - I'd settle for Pacheco if Castro falls through. If I'm a Pirates fan I see the low-risk low-reward move for Pachecho for what it is. He's going to be a filler until Martin comes back from injury or McGuire develops. Should I give them Sadler or Holmes?

As politely as I can say this: please stop offering other names lol. If I didn't mention their team they aren't in "sell" mode

[Totte]

MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Appreciate the input. Right now my thought process is:

#1 - I want Castro. To me he could be a long-term solution in my Pirates win-now state of mind. If I'm a Pirates fan and I see the team give up a couple pieces for Castro I'm pumped with the front office. They are clearly trying to pull out all the stops to win.

With my McGuire/Heredia package is that fair and halfway real given the state of my franchise?

#2 - I'd settle for Pacheco if Castro falls through. If I'm a Pirates fan I see the low-risk low-reward move for Pachecho for what it is. He's going to be a filler until Martin comes back from injury or McGuire develops. Should I give them Sadler or Holmes?

As politely as I can say this: please stop offering other names lol. If I didn't mention their team they aren't in "sell" mode

Yes. McGuire/Heredia for Castro is something you should pull off. Sounds like a good idea.

Sadler is enough for Pacheco who was DFA'd IRL. A high C might even be too much for the guy. I'd say more of a low to mid C depending on what you offer up

[guayo10]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

T. Lindsey (LAA-SD) was/is #93. My bad on Mckinney, you are right.

Wil Myers, Trevor Bauer, Tyler Skaggs, Travis d'Arnaud, Jesus Montero, and Jacob Turner are all good examples of top 10 prospects being traded within the last couple of years.

To add to this, here are the top 20 from each year from the past decade (Can vary from different sites)

2004 Top 20:

Spoiler

1.C Joe Mauer, Twins - No longer a C. Overpaid 1B
2.SP Chin-Hui Tsao, Rockies - yeah.
3.SP Zack Greinke, Royals - Made it, plays nowhere near KC. TRADED 2011 to the Brewers
4.OF Jeremy Reed, White Sox - Was in the trade that sent him to Seattle for Freddy Garcia, others Morse & Olivo. TRADED
5.1B Prince Fielder, Brewers - He will never realistically leave Milwaukee they said, he wouldn't get traded after a year in Detroit they said. Realism is dead.
6.2B Rickie Weeks, Brewers - still alive.
7.SS BJ Upton, Devil Rays - Great SS, Devil Rays should make a comeback.
8.1B Justin Morneau, Twins - CANADA! Traded 2013
9.SP Cole Hamels, Phillies - I hate Philly.
10.OF Alexis Rios, Blue Jays - commentary ends here.
11.SS Bobby Crosby, A's - I lied, I remember this cat. The future.
12.SP Scott Kazmir, Mets - remember who they moved him for? Yeah Realism is dead. TRADED
13.OF Delmon Young, Devil Rays - Rays would never move him, ever. Yeah yeah. Traded 2007 to the Twins.
14.SP Ervin Santana, Angels - Traded 2012 to the Royals
15.SP Edwin Jackson, Dodgers
16.3B Andy Marte, Braves - Traded 2005 to Boston
17.C Jeff Mathis, Angels - Never pay for catchers. Ever. Traded 2012 to the Jays
18.SP Greg Miller, Dodgers - Released 2009
19.SP Gavin Floyd, Phillies - Traded 2006 to the White Sox
20.OF Grady Sizemore, Indians

2005 top 20:

Spoiler

1.3B Andy Marte, Braves - TRADED to Boston for SS Renteria
2.OF Delmon Young, Rays - Traded 2007 to the Twins.
3.SP King Felix, Mariners
4.3B Dallas McPherson, Angels - Released 2007
5.1B Casey Kotchman, Angels - Traded 2008 to the Braves
6.3B Ian Stewart, Rockies - Traded 2011 to the Cubs
7.SS Joel Guzman, Dodgers - Traded 2006 to the Rays
8.1B Prince, Brewers
9.C Daric Barton, A's - DFA 2014
10.OF Jeremy Reed, Mariners - Due to injuries lost starting CF spot to Ichiro. Traded 2008 to the Mets
11.SP Jeff Francis, Rockies
12.OF Carlos Quentin, Diamondbacks - Traded 2007 to the White Sox
13.3B Eric Duncan, Yankees - Released 2009
14.SP Scott Kazmir, Rays (lol Mets) - Traded 2009 to the Angels
15.SP Yusmeiro Petit, Mets - TRADED
16.1B Michael Aubrey, Indians - Traded 2009 to the Orioles
17.2B Chris Burke, Astros - Traded 2007 to the Diamondbacks
18.OF Lastings Milledge, Mets - Traded 2007 to the Nats
19.SP Chad Billingsley, Dodgers
20.SS Ian Kinsler, Rangers

2006 top 20:

Spoiler

1.OF Delmon Young, Rays - Traded 2007 to the Twins.
2.SS Justin Upton, D'Backs - Traded 2013 to the Braves
3.SS Brandon Wood, Angels - DFA 2009
4.OF Jeremy Hermida, Marlins - Traded 2009 to the Red Sox
5.SS Stephen Drew, D'Backs - Traded 2012 to the A's
6.SP Francisco Liriano, Twins - Traded 2012 to the White Sox
7.SP Chad Billingsley, Dodgers
8.SP Justin Verlander, Tigers
9.OF Lastings Milledge, Mets - Traded 2007 to the Nats
10.SP Matt Cain, Giants
11.1B Prince, Brewers
12.2B Howie Kendrick, Angels
13.3B Alex Gordon, Royals
14.3B Andy Marte, Indians - TRADED to the tribe in the Coco deal
15.3B Ryan Zimmerman, Nationals
16.3B Ian Stewart, Rockies
17.1B Conor Jackson, D'Backs - Traded 2010 to the A's
18.C Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Braves - Traded 2007 to the Rangers
19.3B Andy LaRoche, Dodgers - Traded 2008 to the Pirates
20.OF Carlos Quentin, D'Backs - Traded 2007 to the White Sox

2007 top 20:

Spoiler

1.SP Dice-K, Red Sox
2.3B Alex Gordon, Royals
3.OF Delmon Young, Rays - TRADED
4.SP Phil Hughes, Yankees
5.SP Homer Bailey, Reds
6.OF Cameron Maybin, Tigers - TRADED
7.3B Evan Longoria, Rays
8.SS Brandon Wood, Angels - DFA 2009
9.OF Justin Upton, D'Backs - Traded 2013 to the Braves
10.SP Andrew Miller, Tigers - TRADED
11.SP Tim Lincecum, Giants
12.OF Chris Young, D'Backs - Traded 2012
13.OF Andrew McCutchen, Pirates
14.OF Jay Bruce, Reds
15.SS Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies
16.SP Yovani Gallardo, Brewers
17.SS Reid Brignac, Rays - DFA 2013
18.OF Carlos Gonzalez, D'Backs - TRADED
19.3B Andy LaRoche, Dodgers - Traded 2008 to the Pirates
20.SP Mike Pelfrey, Mets

2008 top 20:

Spoiler

1.OF Jay Bruce, Reds
2.3B Evan Longoria, Rays
3.SP Joba Chamberlain, Yankees
4.SP Clay Bucholz, Red Sox
5.OF Colby Rasmus, Cardinals - Traded 2011 to the Jays
6.OF Cameron Maybin, Marlins - Traded 2010 to the Padres
7.SP Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers
8.SP Franklin Morales, Rockies
9.SP Homer Bailey, Reds
10.SP David Price, Rays
11.OF Travis Snider, Blue Jays - Traded 2012 to the Pirates
12.C Matt Wieters, Orioles
13.OF Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox
14.OF Andrew McCutchen, Pirates
15.SP Jake McGee, Rays
16.SS Brandon Wood, Angels - DFA 2009
17.SP Wade Davis, Rays - Traded 2012
18.SS Mike Moustakas, Royals
19.SS Evlis Andrus, Rangers
20.OF Fernando Martinez, Mets - DFA 2012

2009 top 20:

Spoiler

1.C Matt Wieters, Orioles
2.SP David Price, Rays
3.OF Colby Rasmus, Cardinals - Traded 2011 to the Jays
4.SP Tommy Hanson, Braves - Traded 2012 to the Angels
5.OF Jason Heyward, Braves
6.OF Travis Snider, Blue Jays - Traded 2012 to the Pirates
7.SP Brett Anderson, A's (if only he could stay healthy, sigh) - Traded 2013 to the Rockies
8.OF Cameron Maybin, Marlins - Traded 2010 to the Padres
9.SP Madison Bumgarner, Giants
10.SP Neftali Feliz, Rangers
11.SP Trevor Cahill, A's - Traded 2011 to the D'Backs
12.3B Pedro Alvarez, Pirates
13.3B Mike Moustakas, Royals
14.C Buster Posey, Giants
15.OF Dexter Fowler, Rockies - Traded 2013 to the Astros
16.OF Mike Stanton, Marlins
17.1B Lars Anderson, Red Sox - Traded 2012 to the D'Backs
18.1B Logan Morrison, Marlins - Traded 2013 to the Mariners
19.SS Alcides Escobar, Brewers - Traded 2010 to the Royals
20.SS Gordon Beckham, White Sox

2010 top 20:

Spoiler

1.OF Jason Heyward, Braves
2.SP Stephen Strasburg, Nationals
3.OF Mike Stanton, Marlins
4.C Jesus Montero, Yankees - Traded 2011 to the Mariners
5.SP Brian Matusz, Orioles
6.OF Desmond Jennings, Rays
7.C Buster Posey, Giants
8.3B Pedro Alvarez, Pirates
9.SP Neftali Feliz, Rangers
10.C Carlos Santana, Indians
11.2B Dustin Ackley, Mariners
12.SS Alcides Escobar, Brewers - TRADED
13.1B Justin Smoak, Rangers - TRADED
14.SP Madison Bumgarner, Giants
15.OF Domonic Brown, Phillies
16.SS Starlin Castro, Cubs
17.SP Martin Perez, Rangers
18.SP Jeremy Hellickson, Rays
19.OF Aaron Hicks, Twins
20.1B Logan Morrison, Marlins - Traded 2013 to the Mariners

2011 top 20:

Spoiler

1.OF Bryce Harper, Nationals
2.OF Mike Trout, Angels
3.C Jesus Montero, Yankees - TRADED
4.OF Domonic Brown, Phillies
5.SP Julio Teheran, Braves
6.SP Jeremy Hellickson, Rays
7.SP Aroldis Chapman, Reds
8.1B Eric Hosmer, Royals
9.3B Mike Moustakas, Royals
10.OF Wil Myers, Royals - Traded 2012 to the Rays
11.SP James Taillon, Pirates
12.2B Dustin Ackley, Mariners
13.SP Shelby Miller, Cardinals
14.SS Manny Machado, Orioles
15.SP Matt Moore, Rays
16.SP Michael Pineda, Mariners - TRADED
17.1B Freddie Freeman, Braves
18.SP John Lamb, Royals
19.SP Mike Montgomery, Royals - Traded 2012 to the Rays
20.SP Chris Sale, White Sox

2012 top 20:

Spoiler

1.OF Bryce Harper, Nats
2.SP Matt Moore, Rays
3.OF Mike Trout, Angels
4.SP Yu Darvish, Rangers
5.SP Julio Teheran, Braves
6.C Jesus Montero, Mariners
7.SS Jurickson Profar, Rangers
8.SP Shelby Miller, Cardinals
9.SP Trevor Bauer, D'Backs - TRADED
10.SP Dylan Bundy, Orioles
11.SS Manny Machado, Orioles
12.SP Gerrit Cole, Pirates
13.SP Tyler Skaggs, D'Backs - Traded 2013 to the Angels
14.OF Yoenis Cespedes, A's - Traded 2014 to the Red Sox
15.SP James Taillon, Pirates
16.C Devin Mesoraco, Reds
17.C Travis d'Arnaud, Jays - TRADED
18.3B Miguel Sano, Twins
19.3B Anthony Rendon, Nats
20.SP Taijuan Walker, Mariners

2013 top 20:

Spoiler

1.SS Jurickson Profar, Rangers
2.SP Dylan Bundy, Orioles
3.OF Oscar Taveras, Cardinals
4.OF Wil Myers, Rays
5.SP Jose Fernandez, Marlins
6.SP Shelby Miller, Cardinals
7.SP Gerrit Cole, Pirates
8.SS Xander Boagerts, Red Sox
9.3B Miguel Sano, Twins
10.OF Byron Buxton, Twins
11.SP Zack Wheeler, Mets
12.SP Tyler Skaggs, D'Backs - TRADED
13.SS Carlos Correa - Astros
14.SP Trevor Bauer - Indians
15.OF Christian Yelich - Marlins
16.SS Javier Baez, Cubs
17.C Mike Zunino, Mariners
18.SP Taijuan Walker, Mariners
19.SP James Taillon, Pirates
20.OF Billy Hamilton, Reds

2014 top 20:

Spoiler

1.OF Byron Buxton, Twins
2.SS Xander Boagerts, Red Sox
3.OF Oscar Taveras, Cardinals
4.SP Masahiro Tanaka, Yankees
5.SS Javier Baez, Cubs
6.3B Miguel Sano, Twins
7.SS Carlos Correa, Astros
8.3B Kris Bryant, Cubs
9.SP Archie Bradley, D'Backs
10.OF Gregory Polanco, Pirates
11.SP Taijuan Walker, Mariners
12.SP Jonathan Gray, Rockies
13.SS Francisco Lindor, Indians
14.SS Addison Russell, A's - TRADED
15.SP Dylan Bundy, Orioles
16.SP Noah Syndegaard, Mets
17.3B Maikel Franco, Phillies
18.OF George Springer, Astros
19.SP Robert Stephenson, Reds
20.SP Kevin Gausman, Orioles

The minority stay with their teams for a while as stars, other stay for a while and then get released/traded while most end up elsewhere or don't pan out.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Nice post. That list pretty much supports Deuce's point that top, top prospects almost always and invariably debut and play at least a season or 3 with the team that drafted them before being traded, if at all. Most of these guys played a significant amount of time in the majors with the team that originally drafted them.

Even guys you've bolded like Bauer, Skaggs, Pineda etc...played on their MLB club before getting dealt for various reasons.

[hampshirestags]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

It is a great post and the response Duece deserved rather than me spouting off a couple of names.

However, the only thing it shows is that top prospects are traded all the time.

[guayo10]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Nice post. That list pretty much supports Deuce's point that top, top prospects almost always and invariably debut and play at least a season or 3 with the team that drafted them before being traded, if at all. Most of these guys played a significant amount of time in the majors with the team that originally drafted them.

Even guys you've bolded like Bauer, Skaggs, Pineda etc...played on their MLB club before getting dealt for various reasons.

Eh Skaggs was dealt by the Halos only to trade for him again, but yeah after posting it I realized that was the case. Most of the bolded though played maybe August + September before being dealt. Minus the guys you mentioned. Joba, Hughes & Montero, what a shame as a Yanks fan.

Also most of the top 10 was dealt for premier talent, aka Miggy or Freddi Garcia. Also Smoak in that Cliff Lee deal.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

It is a great post and the response Duece deserved rather than me spouting off a couple of names.

However, the only thing it shows is that top prospects are traded all the time.

I don't come to the same conclusion. By the time these guys are traded, they are no longer prospects in most cases, but are reasonably-well established young major leaguers.

I believe if you extend it out to Top 100 rather than Top 20, you will see more of guys being traded before they ever debut in the major leagues. That's not the case with the most recent lists presented here.

[Deuce2223]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

To add to this, here are the top 20 from each year from the past decade (Can vary from different sites)

2004 Top 20:

Spoiler

1.C Joe Mauer, Twins - No longer a C. Overpaid 1B
2.SP Chin-Hui Tsao, Rockies - yeah.
3.SP Zack Greinke, Royals - Made it, plays nowhere near KC. TRADED 2011 to the Brewers
4.OF Jeremy Reed, White Sox - Was in the trade that sent him to Seattle for Freddy Garcia, others Morse & Olivo. TRADED
5.1B Prince Fielder, Brewers - He will never realistically leave Milwaukee they said, he wouldn't get traded after a year in Detroit they said. Realism is dead.
6.2B Rickie Weeks, Brewers - still alive.
7.SS BJ Upton, Devil Rays - Great SS, Devil Rays should make a comeback.
8.1B Justin Morneau, Twins - CANADA! Traded 2013
9.SP Cole Hamels, Phillies - I hate Philly.
10.OF Alexis Rios, Blue Jays - commentary ends here.
11.SS Bobby Crosby, A's - I lied, I remember this cat. The future.
12.SP Scott Kazmir, Mets - remember who they moved him for? Yeah Realism is dead. TRADED
13.OF Delmon Young, Devil Rays - Rays would never move him, ever. Yeah yeah. Traded 2007 to the Twins.
14.SP Ervin Santana, Angels - Traded 2012 to the Royals
15.SP Edwin Jackson, Dodgers
16.3B Andy Marte, Braves - Traded 2005 to Boston
17.C Jeff Mathis, Angels - Never pay for catchers. Ever. Traded 2012 to the Jays
18.SP Greg Miller, Dodgers - Released 2009
19.SP Gavin Floyd, Phillies - Traded 2006 to the White Sox
20.OF Grady Sizemore, Indians

2005 top 20:

Spoiler

1.3B Andy Marte, Braves - TRADED to Boston for SS Renteria
2.OF Delmon Young, Rays - Traded 2007 to the Twins.
3.SP King Felix, Mariners
4.3B Dallas McPherson, Angels - Released 2007
5.1B Casey Kotchman, Angels - Traded 2008 to the Braves
6.3B Ian Stewart, Rockies - Traded 2011 to the Cubs
7.SS Joel Guzman, Dodgers - Traded 2006 to the Rays
8.1B Prince, Brewers
9.C Daric Barton, A's - DFA 2014
10.OF Jeremy Reed, Mariners - Due to injuries lost starting CF spot to Ichiro. Traded 2008 to the Mets
11.SP Jeff Francis, Rockies
12.OF Carlos Quentin, Diamondbacks - Traded 2007 to the White Sox
13.3B Eric Duncan, Yankees - Released 2009
14.SP Scott Kazmir, Rays (lol Mets) - Traded 2009 to the Angels
15.SP Yusmeiro Petit, Mets - TRADED
16.1B Michael Aubrey, Indians - Traded 2009 to the Orioles
17.2B Chris Burke, Astros - Traded 2007 to the Diamondbacks
18.OF Lastings Milledge, Mets - Traded 2007 to the Nats
19.SP Chad Billingsley, Dodgers
20.SS Ian Kinsler, Rangers

2006 top 20:

Spoiler

1.OF Delmon Young, Rays - Traded 2007 to the Twins.
2.SS Justin Upton, D'Backs - Traded 2013 to the Braves
3.SS Brandon Wood, Angels - DFA 2009
4.OF Jeremy Hermida, Marlins - Traded 2009 to the Red Sox
5.SS Stephen Drew, D'Backs - Traded 2012 to the A's
6.SP Francisco Liriano, Twins - Traded 2012 to the White Sox
7.SP Chad Billingsley, Dodgers
8.SP Justin Verlander, Tigers
9.OF Lastings Milledge, Mets - Traded 2007 to the Nats
10.SP Matt Cain, Giants
11.1B Prince, Brewers
12.2B Howie Kendrick, Angels
13.3B Alex Gordon, Royals
14.3B Andy Marte, Indians - TRADED to the tribe in the Coco deal
15.3B Ryan Zimmerman, Nationals
16.3B Ian Stewart, Rockies
17.1B Conor Jackson, D'Backs - Traded 2010 to the A's
18.C Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Braves - Traded 2007 to the Rangers
19.3B Andy LaRoche, Dodgers - Traded 2008 to the Pirates
20.OF Carlos Quentin, D'Backs - Traded 2007 to the White Sox

2007 top 20:

Spoiler

1.SP Dice-K, Red Sox
2.3B Alex Gordon, Royals
3.OF Delmon Young, Rays - TRADED
4.SP Phil Hughes, Yankees
5.SP Homer Bailey, Reds
6.OF Cameron Maybin, Tigers - TRADED
7.3B Evan Longoria, Rays
8.SS Brandon Wood, Angels - DFA 2009
9.OF Justin Upton, D'Backs - Traded 2013 to the Braves
10.SP Andrew Miller, Tigers - TRADED
11.SP Tim Lincecum, Giants
12.OF Chris Young, D'Backs - Traded 2012
13.OF Andrew McCutchen, Pirates
14.OF Jay Bruce, Reds
15.SS Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies
16.SP Yovani Gallardo, Brewers
17.SS Reid Brignac, Rays - DFA 2013
18.OF Carlos Gonzalez, D'Backs - TRADED
19.3B Andy LaRoche, Dodgers - Traded 2008 to the Pirates
20.SP Mike Pelfrey, Mets

2008 top 20:

Spoiler

1.OF Jay Bruce, Reds
2.3B Evan Longoria, Rays
3.SP Joba Chamberlain, Yankees
4.SP Clay Bucholz, Red Sox
5.OF Colby Rasmus, Cardinals - Traded 2011 to the Jays
6.OF Cameron Maybin, Marlins - Traded 2010 to the Padres
7.SP Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers
8.SP Franklin Morales, Rockies
9.SP Homer Bailey, Reds
10.SP David Price, Rays
11.OF Travis Snider, Blue Jays - Traded 2012 to the Pirates
12.C Matt Wieters, Orioles
13.OF Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox
14.OF Andrew McCutchen, Pirates
15.SP Jake McGee, Rays
16.SS Brandon Wood, Angels - DFA 2009
17.SP Wade Davis, Rays - Traded 2012
18.SS Mike Moustakas, Royals
19.SS Evlis Andrus, Rangers
20.OF Fernando Martinez, Mets - DFA 2012

2009 top 20:

Spoiler

1.C Matt Wieters, Orioles
2.SP David Price, Rays
3.OF Colby Rasmus, Cardinals - Traded 2011 to the Jays
4.SP Tommy Hanson, Braves - Traded 2012 to the Angels
5.OF Jason Heyward, Braves
6.OF Travis Snider, Blue Jays - Traded 2012 to the Pirates
7.SP Brett Anderson, A's (if only he could stay healthy, sigh) - Traded 2013 to the Rockies
8.OF Cameron Maybin, Marlins - Traded 2010 to the Padres
9.SP Madison Bumgarner, Giants
10.SP Neftali Feliz, Rangers
11.SP Trevor Cahill, A's - Traded 2011 to the D'Backs
12.3B Pedro Alvarez, Pirates
13.3B Mike Moustakas, Royals
14.C Buster Posey, Giants
15.OF Dexter Fowler, Rockies - Traded 2013 to the Astros
16.OF Mike Stanton, Marlins
17.1B Lars Anderson, Red Sox - Traded 2012 to the D'Backs
18.1B Logan Morrison, Marlins - Traded 2013 to the Mariners
19.SS Alcides Escobar, Brewers - Traded 2010 to the Royals
20.SS Gordon Beckham, White Sox

2010 top 20:

Spoiler

1.OF Jason Heyward, Braves
2.SP Stephen Strasburg, Nationals
3.OF Mike Stanton, Marlins
4.C Jesus Montero, Yankees - Traded 2011 to the Mariners
5.SP Brian Matusz, Orioles
6.OF Desmond Jennings, Rays
7.C Buster Posey, Giants
8.3B Pedro Alvarez, Pirates
9.SP Neftali Feliz, Rangers
10.C Carlos Santana, Indians
11.2B Dustin Ackley, Mariners
12.SS Alcides Escobar, Brewers - TRADED
13.1B Justin Smoak, Rangers - TRADED
14.SP Madison Bumgarner, Giants
15.OF Domonic Brown, Phillies
16.SS Starlin Castro, Cubs
17.SP Martin Perez, Rangers
18.SP Jeremy Hellickson, Rays
19.OF Aaron Hicks, Twins
20.1B Logan Morrison, Marlins - Traded 2013 to the Mariners

2011 top 20:

Spoiler

1.OF Bryce Harper, Nationals
2.OF Mike Trout, Angels
3.C Jesus Montero, Yankees - TRADED
4.OF Domonic Brown, Phillies
5.SP Julio Teheran, Braves
6.SP Jeremy Hellickson, Rays
7.SP Aroldis Chapman, Reds
8.1B Eric Hosmer, Royals
9.3B Mike Moustakas, Royals
10.OF Wil Myers, Royals - Traded 2012 to the Rays
11.SP James Taillon, Pirates
12.2B Dustin Ackley, Mariners
13.SP Shelby Miller, Cardinals
14.SS Manny Machado, Orioles
15.SP Matt Moore, Rays
16.SP Michael Pineda, Mariners - TRADED
17.1B Freddie Freeman, Braves
18.SP John Lamb, Royals
19.SP Mike Montgomery, Royals - Traded 2012 to the Rays
20.SP Chris Sale, White Sox

2012 top 20:

Spoiler

1.OF Bryce Harper, Nats
2.SP Matt Moore, Rays
3.OF Mike Trout, Angels
4.SP Yu Darvish, Rangers
5.SP Julio Teheran, Braves
6.C Jesus Montero, Mariners
7.SS Jurickson Profar, Rangers
8.SP Shelby Miller, Cardinals
9.SP Trevor Bauer, D'Backs - TRADED
10.SP Dylan Bundy, Orioles
11.SS Manny Machado, Orioles
12.SP Gerrit Cole, Pirates
13.SP Tyler Skaggs, D'Backs - Traded 2013 to the Angels
14.OF Yoenis Cespedes, A's - Traded 2014 to the Red Sox
15.SP James Taillon, Pirates
16.C Devin Mesoraco, Reds
17.C Travis d'Arnaud, Jays - TRADED
18.3B Miguel Sano, Twins
19.3B Anthony Rendon, Nats
20.SP Taijuan Walker, Mariners

2013 top 20:

Spoiler

1.SS Jurickson Profar, Rangers
2.SP Dylan Bundy, Orioles
3.OF Oscar Taveras, Cardinals
4.OF Wil Myers, Rays
5.SP Jose Fernandez, Marlins
6.SP Shelby Miller, Cardinals
7.SP Gerrit Cole, Pirates
8.SS Xander Boagerts, Red Sox
9.3B Miguel Sano, Twins
10.OF Byron Buxton, Twins
11.SP Zack Wheeler, Mets
12.SP Tyler Skaggs, D'Backs - TRADED
13.SS Carlos Correa - Astros
14.SP Trevor Bauer - Indians
15.OF Christian Yelich - Marlins
16.SS Javier Baez, Cubs
17.C Mike Zunino, Mariners
18.SP Taijuan Walker, Mariners
19.SP James Taillon, Pirates
20.OF Billy Hamilton, Reds

2014 top 20:

Spoiler

1.OF Byron Buxton, Twins
2.SS Xander Boagerts, Red Sox
3.OF Oscar Taveras, Cardinals
4.SP Masahiro Tanaka, Yankees
5.SS Javier Baez, Cubs
6.3B Miguel Sano, Twins
7.SS Carlos Correa, Astros
8.3B Kris Bryant, Cubs
9.SP Archie Bradley, D'Backs
10.OF Gregory Polanco, Pirates
11.SP Taijuan Walker, Mariners
12.SP Jonathan Gray, Rockies
13.SS Francisco Lindor, Indians
14.SS Addison Russell, A's - TRADED
15.SP Dylan Bundy, Orioles
16.SP Noah Syndegaard, Mets
17.3B Maikel Franco, Phillies
18.OF George Springer, Astros
19.SP Robert Stephenson, Reds
20.SP Kevin Gausman, Orioles

The minority stay with their teams for a while as stars, other stay for a while and then get released/traded while most end up elsewhere or don't pan out.

Nice work.. Well I agree obviously Top-20 players have been dealt more then I remembered, almost all of them were dealt in packages in which the team giving them up was acquiring a player or players to try and help them win their division and get into the playoffs.

Well my original post was more toward stating a fact that teams like the Cubs who are no where close to competing would not fall in the catagory, so there for unless we are in 2016 or 2017, it's pretty unrealistic to think they would be willing to trade off Baez just because they have Russell and Castro and the Twins would likely never trade Buxton or Sano.

Proving my point was the A's are trying to win this year. Thus they gave up Russell to get 2 pitchers to help them. The Marlins are trying to win this year and keep what little fan base they have left so they trade Morin for Cosart.. The Angels are trying to win this year so they traded Lindsey for Street.


You being a Orioles fan, I am curious what do you think someone would need to give up to get Bundy? or Hunter Harvey?

Or better yet because the original post was geared toward those always coming in here asking for Baez, what would a team have to give up to acquire Machado.

In fact for fun, what would I need to give up from the M's to get Machado so I can put him at SS in my M's Franchise.

My guess is the response is that it's not realistic for the O's to trade Machado but if they did the talks would have to be T. Walker (#7 Overall and M's #1)/DJ Peterson (#57 Overall and #3 M's)+ Taylor or Guerrero. Which would fit the Spread Sheet by the way.

Thing is as I M's fan I wouldn't want to give that up, and that's the same problem we are seeing for those trying for Baez, they want him cheap and are trying to trade no where near the talent the Cubs would expect to get.

[CBoller1331]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

It really sucks to be a top prospect....
This is not backed by facts just an educated guess: I'd guess that looking back in hind sight, 50% of these guys aren't what all the scouts thought they were. Not that they become busts, but they just aren't quite as good as everyone was saying they'd be.
Not what Cubs fans want to hear....

Sorry kinda off topic. Return to discussing trades!!!!

[Knight165]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Not that I think Jose Bautista is "one of the greatest" or was a top prospect....but check out his early career path.
IMO...part of the problem with some of these discussions is that we mix and match real life players/events with the game. Rarely are they moving in the same directions.
A lot of trades that are discussed are never quantified with what's happening in the franchise....current rosters....etc
IDK...

M.K.
Knight165

[AC]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Not that I think Jose Bautista is "one of the greatest" or was a top prospect....but check out his early career path.
IMO...part of the problem with some of these discussions is that we mix and match real life players/events with the game. Rarely are they moving in the same directions.
A lot of trades that are discussed are never quantified with what's happening in the franchise....current rosters....etc
IDK...

M.K.
Knight165

We ask for the statistics of the player in the franchise every. Single. Time.

[hampshirestags]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Nice work.. Well I agree obviously Top-20 players have been dealt more then I remembered, almost all of them were dealt in packages in which the team giving them up was acquiring a player or players to try and help them win their division and get into the playoffs.

Well my original post was more toward stating a fact that teams like the Cubs who are no where close to competing would not fall in the catagory, so there for unless we are in 2016 or 2017, it's pretty unrealistic to think they would be willing to trade off Baez just because they have Russell and Castro and the Twins would likely never trade Buxton or Sano.

Proving my point was the A's are trying to win this year. Thus they gave up Russell to get 2 pitchers to help them. The Marlins are trying to win this year and keep what little fan base they have left so they trade Morin for Cosart.. The Angels are trying to win this year so they traded Lindsey for Street.


You being a Orioles fan, I am curious what do you think someone would need to give up to get Bundy? or Hunter Harvey?

Or better yet because the original post was geared toward those always coming in here asking for Baez, what would a team have to give up to acquire Machado.

In fact for fun, what would I need to give up from the M's to get Machado so I can put him at SS in my M's Franchise.

My guess is the response is that it's not realistic for the O's to trade Machado but if they did the talks would have to be T. Walker (#7 Overall and M's #1)/DJ Peterson (#57 Overall and #3 M's)+ Taylor or Guerrero. Which would fit the Spread Sheet by the way.

Thing is as I M's fan I wouldn't want to give that up, and that's the same problem we are seeing for those trying for Baez, they want him cheap and are trying to trade no where near the talent the Cubs would expect to get.

Then we have 2 different points going. You had mentioned the seemingly rare instances of high level prospect trades (how I read it) and I was pointing out it happens quite a bit. You asked for some examples and I gave some (full disclosure, had to look 2 up to verify).

Harvey and A.Jones are the only 2 untouchables on the O's. That's ownership, nothing to do with baseball. My point is that everyone is tradeable, at any time (exceptions of the Trout and Kershaw brand noted).

As far as value for anyone, that's the spreadsheet and us gabbing back and forth, right? What do I care if they want a kid that's going to hit .235 for 2 years and play a below average 2b? He has a price tag and if you, in good faith, meet it...mazel tov!

[Knight165]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

We ask for the statistics of the player in the franchise every. Single. Time.

Take. It. Easy. Francis.

M.K.
Knight165

[Knight165]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I didn't mean in here specifically....I meant in general.

M.K.
Knight165