MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[tessl]

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Miller was the 5th best pitcher the Cardinals had, and for half of his big league career has been considered broken. His strikeout rate has also dipped significantly and his walks were up this year. Could he turn into an ace still? Of course, but there's also a good chance he becomes nothing more than an average or slightly above average starter.

Using WAR Heyward is considered one of the best outfielders in baseball, and even if you don't like WAR his defense and on-base percentage are improvements over anything the Cardinals currently have, and significantly better than Markakis. Miller, or even Jenkins, could well turn out to be great, but that's not the most likely scenario, and as a Cardinals fan I am thrilled Heyward was so cheap.

Miller was the 5th best pitcher behind who? Broken? He made 62 MLB starts at the age of 22 and 23.

Heyward doesn't hit for power or average. WAR is an overrated stat.

[cardinal511]

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Miller was the 5th best pitcher behind who? Broken? He made 62 MLB starts at the age of 22 and 23.

Heyward doesn't hit for power or average. WAR is an overrated stat.

Wainwright, Wacha, and Lynn there's no question, and Lackey would have started before Miller in the rotation. Heyward might not hit for power, but he gets on base and plays phenomenal defense. The Cardinals right fielders did nothing well last year.

Here are two articles on Miller being broken:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/shelb...-looks-broken/
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/can-t...shelby-miller/

Personally, Miller was one of my favorite players, but he's no longer a strikeout pitcher, has major control problems, and needs to develop a second and third pitch to go along with the fastball. He could be good, but we needed a right fielder, and I don't think we could have gotten anyone better in free agency or a trade. If we can extend him, it seems like a good deal for the Cardinals. I know a lot of Cardinals' fans were happy about it, and a lot of Braves' fans weren't thrilled.

[Cubs1984Nostaglia]

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Hello, heading into 2015 in my chise, and i want to ask, what are some realistic SP trade targets for the Cubs? I'm willing to part with any prospect not named Kris Bryant or Javier Baez. (Couldn't sign any top SP because somehow Lester, Shields, and Scherzer were all extended). Can't trade for Cole Hamels either cause i have only 13 million available (this game treats the cubs' budget like we're the rays)

One trade partner i might have found is the Giants. They signed SP Chris Young and Jake Peavy, and acquired CJ Wilson. They have 6-7 MLB starting pitchers, and i feel Matt Cain could be acquireable. What might a Cain package look like? I feel like SS Gleyber Torres and 3B Christian Villanueva is fair, do i need to add more?

(This isnt all I need. I need 2 starters to go along with Arrieta, Hendricks, and Brett Anderson (whom i got on a 1 year deal) so any other suggestions please let me know asap)

Heres the info on Cain: Rated an 83, B potential, coming off of an injury plagued 2014 in which he had a 4.50 ERA

ONE MORE THING: What might a Yasmandy Grandal package look like?

Thanks a lot!

[Cubs1984Nostaglia]

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Or, if someone could point me toward the actual trade value spreadsheet (i searched all over this thread), it would be mighty helpful for my ? on the last page thanks

[zippy2212]

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Or, if someone could point me toward the actual trade value spreadsheet (i searched all over this thread), it would be mighty helpful for my ? on the last page thanks

It's on the first page on the lower half of the first post. Here is the link as well.

http://1drv.ms/1kD1Hu5

I had the same issue in my franchise as you did. Everybody re-signed with their original team so I had to trade for Lester.

As for your Cain trade, I think it would still take more than Torres and Villanueva. They would probably want at least one of Almora, Russell (if you have him) etc.

[Cubs1984Nostaglia]

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It's on the first page on the lower half of the first post. Here is the link as well.

http://1drv.ms/1kD1Hu5

I had the same issue in my franchise as you did. Everybody re-signed with their original team so I had to trade for Lester.

As for your Cain trade, I think it would still take more than Torres and Villanueva. They would probably want at least one of Almora, Russell (if you have him) etc.

Do you think Eloy Jimenez (High-B), Pierce Johnson (mid-B) and Pedro Strop get me Grandal and Vinnie Pestano? The spreadsheet said two mid-Bs for Grandal

(BTW, thanks for the response. Been waiting to head into 2015 since last night

[zippy2212]

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Do you think Eloy Jimenez (High-B), Pierce Johnson (mid-B) and Pedro Strop get me Grandal and Vinnie Pestano? The spreadsheet said two mid-Bs for Grandal

(BTW, thanks for the response. Been waiting to head into 2015 since last night

I that sounds fair to me. I usually use the spreadsheet as a guide and then just do what feels right/fair, making sure I give them a player of need as well as the suggested prospects.

[Cubs1984Nostaglia]

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I that sounds fair to me. I usually use the spreadsheet as a guide and then just do what feels right/fair, making sure I give them a player of need as well as the suggested prospects.

Thanks a lot for the help man

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Do you think Eloy Jimenez (High-B), Pierce Johnson (mid-B) and Pedro Strop get me Grandal and Vinnie Pestano? The spreadsheet said two mid-Bs for Grandal

(BTW, thanks for the response. Been waiting to head into 2015 since last night

Overpay...

[rjackson]

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Hey Blue Jays fans (I know you are lurking out there AC): What would it cost the ChiSox to get Danny Valencia and RP Stilson? Any suggestions?

[CameRoN0407]

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This is a tough one because it has been said that the Reds feel they have one last chance to win next year and are going to go for it, but that could be posturing to try and get the best deals. They are built to win now with not much for prospects in the farm and high salary MLB quality starters in the bigs. Might wait till June 2015 to see if they are doing poorly for realism or if they do deal someone irl. Otherwise, you'll have to give up something they need like Cespedes and a bench piece for the future like Holt OR Betts that fills present and future needs for them. I don't see present interest in the names you brought up (WMB, Cecchini, Marrero), maybe in June/July.

Cincinnati is coming off a 82-80 season that found them 3rd in the NL Central. Their pitching was great, but the offense, not so much. I would send Cespedes and another piece, but it won't be anything like Betts. The Reds have a pressing need for a LF (Heisey set to be OD starter) and could afford to lose a pitcher. I really need pitching now, as my rotation would only go: Lester (If he even signs), then drop down to Kelly. I see Latos being ideal for the Reds to let go of for many reasons, including its his contract year.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Hey Blue Jays fans (I know you are lurking out there AC): What would it cost the ChiSox to get Danny Valencia and RP Stilson? Any suggestions?

You still have Gordon Beckham? That might work.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Cincinnati is coming off a 82-80 season that found them 3rd in the NL Central. Their pitching was great, but the offense, not so much. I would send Cespedes and another piece, but it won't be anything like Betts. The Reds have a pressing need for a LF (Heisey set to be OD starter) and could afford to lose a pitcher. I really need pitching now, as my rotation would only go: Lester (If he even signs), then drop down to Kelly. I see Latos being ideal for the Reds to let go of for many reasons, including its his contract year.

I don't think it makes sense to trade Cespedes for Latos because Cespedes will be a free agent after 2015. They will both make similar money in 2015 in Latos' last year of arb eligibility. If you are selling this as a salary dump for the Reds, they will need to dip into your young, controllable specs. I see Betts or JBJ+Owens/E-Rod headlining a Latos deal rather that Yoenis.

[CameRoN0407]

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I don't think it makes sense to trade Cespedes for Latos because Cespedes will be a free agent after 2015. They will both make similar money in 2015 in Latos' last year of arb eligibility. If you are selling this as a salary dump for the Reds, they will need to dip into your young, controllable specs. I see Betts or JBJ+Owens/E-Rod headlining a Latos deal rather that Yoenis.

The trade fills major holes for both teams. Cespedes fills that void in LF, and Latos fills a void in my rotation. No, I'm not selling this as a salary dump, but rather as a win now move for both sides. This is pretty much the same as the trade that got Cespedes here in the first place. I don't see the prospects as a fit for the Reds right now, as Walt Jocketty is competitive, and believes he can compete with the powerhouses in the NL Central right now. Yoenis Cespedes is a productive OFer who would help Cincinnati, who lacks productive OFers. They have a plethora of pitchers, and could afford to deal one for a big bat. Not to mention I'm willing to deal an additional player.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I see Latos being ideal for the Reds to let go of for many reasons, including its his contract year.

The trade fills major holes for both teams. Cespedes fills that void in LF, and Latos fills a void in my rotation. No, I'm not selling this as a salary dump, but rather as a win now move for both sides. This is pretty much the same as the trade that got Cespedes here in the first place. I don't see the prospects as a fit for the Reds right now, as Walt Jocketty is competitive, and believes he can compete with the powerhouses in the NL Central right now. Yoenis Cespedes is a productive OFer who would help Cincinnati, who lacks productive OFers. They have a plethora of pitchers, and could afford to deal one for a big bat. Not to mention I'm willing to deal an additional player.

That's fine, I just thought salary considerations was the major reason. It doesn't have to be. Cespedes for Latos is decently fair depending on their stats.