MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[Cubs1984Nostaglia]

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To add to the other Cubs' suggestions on this page, I do believe Jason Hammel is undervalued here. He has gotten out to a fantastic start, so there should be at least a low-B in there.
Thanks for all your hard work fellas

[gostorm3]

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So just noticing on the spreadsheet that BJ Upton is untradeable? Is that correct? What, if anything, could you get for him to unload him?


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[Cubs1984Nostaglia]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

So just noticing on the spreadsheet that BJ Upton is untradeable? Is that correct? What, if anything, could you get for him to unload him?


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Probably a crap, late-20s middle relief pitcher...

[AC]

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NFG, please put a note in the OP that you can use CTRL + F to search for guys!

Darwin Barney is a bit overvalued at 2 high Cs. As much as we Cubs fans want to (and some still do) like him, he's really nothing but a defensive replacement. So, maybe 1 high C would be appropriate. Dude just cannot hit.

He got BABIP'd last year and could well return to his previous levels of solid play. Two high C's is pretty insignificant, too.

Baez should have, at minimum, the same value as Xander Bogaerts, but Bogaerts is worth 2 As and change, but Baez only 1 A.

Bogaerts is in the show versus AAA and imo has a higher ceiling. Also, less chance of busting. Baez will probably be great but Bogaerts is safer with a comparable at least or higher ceiling.

Brett Jackson is worth a bag of peanuts, not a high C, lol.

Bag of peanuts = high C lol

High C's aren't very valuable.[/QUOTE]

[gostorm3]

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Probably a crap, late-20s middle relief pitcher...

You know, I'll take what I can get. If he's having a decent year could he be worth a mid C or low B for a playoff contender?


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[Totte]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

To add to the other Cubs' suggestions on this page, I do believe Jason Hammel is undervalued here. He has gotten out to a fantastic start, so there should be at least a low-B in there.
Thanks for all your hard work fellas

I agree with you, one low B seems like a good fit. He was good in Baltimore before he got injured and seems to have found his groove once again.

[Totte]

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So just noticing on the spreadsheet that BJ Upton is untradeable? Is that correct? What, if anything, could you get for him to unload him?

Must have missed putting a value on BJ because he came up blank in my copy. Anyway, he's like a low B sitting on that monster deal hitting below the mendoza line. Feel free to unload him if you find any takers.

What about sending BJ Upton and Joey Terdoslavich to Seattle for Nick Franklin who could then replace Uggla at 2B?

[Totte]

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You know, I'll take what I can get. If he's having a decent year could he be worth a mid C or low B for a playoff contender?

Decent numbers could fetch you a low B from a contender

[Totte]

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Kris Bryant is not on the sheet (which is not really an issue because he ain't going anywhere--MONSTER! It's like he's got a shovel up there at the plate.)

Something like a High A, Low A and Mid B?

Brett Jackson is worth a bag of peanuts, not a high C, lol. And Josh Vitters should have the same value as B.J. Upton, lol. YOU CAN HAVE HIM!

Mid C's for Jackson and Vitters instead?

[37]

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forgot to mention until I saw WTNY's post...If you guys spot any errors regarding to age,players' names misspelled, wrong bat/throw hand, wrong/missing primary/secondary positions etc., don't hesitate to speak up...although perfection is impossible, the least we can do is get close to it...

an update to the spreadsheet to reflect transactions up until today is on the horizon

[WaitTilNextYear]

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So I'm waiting for the OSFM rosters to come out and now with the spreadsheet I came up with a few trades. Tell me what you like and don't like.

Jarred Cosart for Jace Peterson (Low B).

Altuve for Hunter Renfroe (Mid B) and Everth Cabrera (Low B).

Neftali Feliz for Will Venable and Keyvius Sampsonm(Low B).

Paco Rodriguez for Robbie Erlin (High C).

Starlin Castro for Rymer Liriano (High B) and Max Fried (High B). I have a question on this one though. Both Castro and Fried are worth 2 High Bs so would just Fried be ok?

Jarrod Parker for Hunter Renfroe (Mid B) and Zach Eflin (Mid B).

Ben Revere for Will Venable (Low B).

Eric Hosmer for Rymer Liriano (High B), Cameron Maybin (Low B) and Kyle Blanks (High C).

Shelby Miller for Austin Hedges (Low A), Rymer Liriano (High B), and Cameron Maybin (Low B).

It really depends on what your intent is...fairness? Realism and fairness?

If the latter, I'm not a fan of most of these tbh. Some of them like Miller for Hedges/Liriano/Maybin are head-scratchers. Why would St. Louis deal a young budding ace for a catcher who will be stuck behind Yadi Molina for years? The Cards can't even get Taveras in the lineup as is, so not sure they're hurting for young outfielders either.

The Cubs value Castro and the Royals value Hosmer more than that.

I think Renfroe/Cabrera for Altuve is overvaluing Altuve somewhat.

Jarrod Parker is being undervalued.

I doubt San Diego would trade Venable for Revere's big contract and likely get less production.

The Feliz deal is a possibility.

As a general note, the spreadsheet is a great starting point for fairness, but for realism, when matching up the right A's and B's in a deal, the context is crucial.

To add to the other Cubs' suggestions on this page, I do believe Jason Hammel is undervalued here. He has gotten out to a fantastic start, so there should be at least a low-B in there.
Thanks for all your hard work fellas

I would wait until June to really hike up his value. Everyone knows he's a Scott Feldman special and has been pitching great, but then again anyone could've signed him a few months ago also, but only the Cubs chose to. 5-10 more nice starts and then he's definitely some sort of B.

NFG, please put a note in the OP that you can use CTRL + F to search for guys!



He got BABIP'd last year and could well return to his previous levels of solid play. Two high C's is pretty insignificant, too.

Not if you've seen him play. Barney as a hitter is a lost cause. His stats only underscore what's going on with the eye test.

Bogaerts is in the show versus AAA and imo has a higher ceiling. Also, less chance of busting. Baez will probably be great but Bogaerts is safer with a comparable at least or higher ceiling.

While there's truth to the fact that Bogaerts is doing ok at MLB and Baez is more of a wildcard...Baez absolutely has a higher ceiling than Bogaerts, with Bogaerts having the higher floor. Xander is a touch better defensively, but the last prospect we've seen with Baez's raw power is Bryce Harper and his bat speed has been compared several times to Mr. Gary Sheffield. Baez is off to his customary slow start at AAA, but watch for a streak where he hits .600 with 8 HRs in 2 weeks and he'll be back on track.

Bag of peanuts = high C lol

High C's aren't very valuable.

But Brett Jackson has Brett Wallace-type value. Does that help?

Something like a High A, Low A and Mid B?

That's a good question, Totte. I don't know if I'm ready to determine what types of A for Baez, but I'm pretty solid on that he's worth 2 of them. But maybe mid-A + low-A + high-B would be agreeable? I am very high on Javy Baez so it might be a good idea to get some other opinions from folks in this here thread...

Mid C's for Jackson and Vitters instead?

Honestly, low C tops for Vitters. I could be convinced that Brett Jackson has some hope yet, so mid C for Jackson seems reasonable. But in my heart of hearts, as a die hard Cubs fan, I see little hope for either youngster. :/

forgot to mention until I saw WTNY's post...If you guys spot any errors regarding to age,players' names misspelled, wrong bat/throw hand, wrong/missing primary/secondary positions etc., don't hesitate to speak up...although perfection is impossible, the least we can do is get close to it...

an update to the spreadsheet to reflect transactions up until today is on the horizon

Well, I never have any problem speaking out, lol. Great job with the sheet! I'll take a closer look and we can really start debating values in here (it might get heated, lol) after the PS4 version comes out.

[dubplate]

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I'm looking to trade Cliff Lee for Oscar Taveras. Phillies have been shopping him since last year and the Cardinals could use Lee in a World Series push.

I'd love to trade Lee for Giancarlo Stanton, but I'm not sure how fair that scenario would be since the Marlins are rebuilding and not looking to take on that contract.

Someone please prove me wrong, though.

[redsox4evur]

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I'm looking to trade Cliff Lee for Oscar Taveras. Phillies have been shopping him since last year and the Cardinals could use Lee in a World Series push.

I'd love to trade Lee for Giancarlo Stanton, but I'm not sure how fair that scenario would be since the Marlins are rebuilding and not looking to take on that contract.

Someone please prove me wrong, though.

Lee for Stanton is NEVER going to happen. Because of the interdivision trade and also the reason that you stated.

[dubplate]

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Lee for Stanton is NEVER going to happen. Because of the interdivision trade and also the reason that you stated.

I said prove me wrong, not right!

[redsox4evur]

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I said prove me wrong, not right!

I was implying that IMO it's impossible to prove you wrong. But one way it could happen is if Philly gave up their top 2 prospects, Dom Brown, and pay off at least if not more than half of Lee's contract. And even then I don't know if Miami would do that trade.