Scouting Question

[Jr.]

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I didn't realize I could scout before the season. Thanks!

I want to clarify this point to make sure there isn't any confusion. You can't scout until you start the regular season. But there is about a week's worth of time before your actual first game where you can scout.

[StevenSD]

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I didn't realize I could scout before the season. Thanks!

When you say don't assume a scout with stay on his assignment? You are referring to when you go back into scouting and they say the scout has discovered all players in that area or have finished scouting a player?

As Jr. mentioned, it's right after you go from spring training to the regular season. There's usually a week and a half of nothing on the calender that I used to sim over, but it turns out you can use those days to discover/scout.

I should have been a bit more clearer in my previous post. Instead of saying don't assume they'll stay on the assignment/prospect, I mean that after what seems to be two days for scouting (Mind you I use scouts with high efficiency ratings) and three or four depending on the discovery (Again using scouts with high discovery ratings) the scouts will change their assignment or the players they are scouting.... Can't confirm at the moment, but I do have scouting as auto in my franchise so that probably plays a role in what I experience.

[Brandwin]

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StevenSD - Any reasons you went with auto scouting instead of manual?

[RHutch]

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If you're drafting in the later part of the round is it even worth it to scout potential 90s players or would it be a safer bet to scout 80s and 70s?

[WaitTilNextYear]

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If you're drafting in the later part of the round is it even worth it to scout potential 90s players or would it be a safer bet to scout 80s and 70s?

The short answer is that there is no way to know if players are 90s, 80s, or 70s POT until scouting them....

The pre-scouting ratings rarely ever hold up to scouting.

[Gagnon39]

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I'm wondering why so many high-potential players have ETAs of 2020 and up. I get that it takes time to develop but I don't see how it would take some guys almost 10 years to arrive if they're 99 potential players.

[Cavicchi]

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The short answer is that there is no way to know if players are 90s, 80s, or 70s POT until scouting them....

The pre-scouting ratings rarely ever hold up to scouting.

Are you certain fully scouted 99's will be 99?

Here are two examples of fully scouted players that are supposed to be 99:

SS Billy Buscher Overall 41 Potential 99.

Contact Actual and Potential 38--63, Power 27--47, speed 38--69 Fielding 28--71 Arm 32--63

2B Johnnie Ellsworth Overall 43 Potential 99.

Contact actual and potential 35--63, Power 36--52, speed 35--55, Fielding 38--67 Arm 36--47.

R. Nielsen

Pitcher 94
Position Player- 96
Discovery--98
Efficiency--49

This is the scout I use to fully scout position players. I also use P. Miller to scout for position players: Position Player 87 Discovery 91 Efficiency 55.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Are you certain fully scouted 99's will be 99?

Here are two examples of fully scouted players that are supposed to be 99:

SS Billy Buscher Overall 41 Potential 99.

Contact Actual and Potential 38--63, Power 27--47, speed 38--69 Fielding 28--71 Arm 32--63

2B Johnnie Ellsworth Overall 43 Potential 99.

Contact actual and potential 35--63, Power 36--52, speed 35--55, Fielding 38--67 Arm 36--47.

R. Nielsen

Pitcher 94
Position Player- 96
Discovery--98
Efficiency--49

This is the scout I use to fully scout position players. I also use P. Miller to scout for position players: Position Player 87 Discovery 91 Efficiency 55.

I've seen you post these guys' attributes quite a few times and realize this is what made you start this thread, but it's really immaterial to the question the poster had. He doesn't care about fully scouted 99 POT players and whether their actual ratings justify that--he's asking whether to focus in on one type of potential player to scout based on his draft position.

[StevenSD]

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StevenSD - Any reasons you went with auto scouting instead of manual?

Lazyness. I usually stop scouting with about a week, sometimes two, remaining to the draft. By that time I've scouted, what I feel, to be enough players to last through rounds 1-4. The remaining rounds I'll kind of just judge and guess on the picks depending on how much that prospect was scouted. So say there's two 76 potential players when I'm picking in round 5, one of those players has been scouted to about 50% while the other to 25%... I'll pick the guy who's been scouted more, because usually it's less of a crap shoot.

I've probably missed out on some good late round gems, but this strategy at least has me picking C potential players till round 6.... which I consider depth for my minor league teams.

[StevenSD]

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If you're drafting in the later part of the round is it even worth it to scout potential 90s players or would it be a safer bet to scout 80s and 70s?

It is because those players potential will likely drop the more you scout them.

[Knight165]

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Are you certain fully scouted 99's will be 99?

Here are two examples of fully scouted players that are supposed to be 99:

SS Billy Buscher Overall 41 Potential 99.

Contact Actual and Potential 38--63, Power 27--47, speed 38--69 Fielding 28--71 Arm 32--63

2B Johnnie Ellsworth Overall 43 Potential 99.

Contact actual and potential 35--63, Power 36--52, speed 35--55, Fielding 38--67 Arm 36--47.

R. Nielsen

Pitcher 94
Position Player- 96
Discovery--98
Efficiency--49

This is the scout I use to fully scout position players. I also use P. Miller to scout for position players: Position Player 87 Discovery 91 Efficiency 55.

You're doing it again.
99 potential DOES NOT refer to his future OVR.
You stated in a thread that you didn't want to explain something to the forums because you condescendingly thought we wouldn't comprehend it.
It seems that perhaps your comprehension might not be quite what you think it is.

POTENTIAL is the driving force for a players future prospects and how quickly and how far a player MAY develop.
Those individual potentials(not the player potential) are also not hard and fast numbers....they are likely....but not concrete.

If you have two players who are 45/65(actual/potential).....one an 80 POT
.....the other a 95 POT.....the 95 pot is more likely to reach his potential ratings....likely to reach it more quickly....and more likely to possibly pass his potential ratings......unless the 80 POT player gets a potential(letter grade) increase.

M.K.
Knight165

[Cavicchi]

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I've seen you post these guys' attributes quite a few times and realize this is what made you start this thread, but it's really immaterial to the question the poster had. He doesn't care about fully scouted 99 POT players and whether their actual ratings justify that--he's asking whether to focus in on one type of potential player to scout based on his draft position.

You're doing it again.
99 potential DOES NOT refer to his future OVR.
You stated in a thread that you didn't want to explain something to the forums because you condescendingly thought we wouldn't comprehend it.
It seems that perhaps your comprehension might not be quite what you think it is.

POTENTIAL is the driving force for a players future prospects and how quickly and how far a player MAY develop.
Those individual potentials(not the player potential) are also not hard and fast numbers....they are likely....but not concrete.

If you have two players who are 45/65(actual/potential).....one an 80 POT
.....the other a 95 POT.....the 95 pot is more likely to reach his potential ratings....likely to reach it more quickly....and more likely to possibly pass his potential ratings......unless the 80 POT player gets a potential(letter grade) increase.

M.K.
Knight165

The short answer is that there is no way to know if players are 90s, 80s, or 70s POT until scouting them....

The pre-scouting ratings rarely ever hold up to scouting.

That is the post to which I replied. And you guys don't get why?

By the way, I never said anything about overall, knight, and you're doing it again.

[Cavicchi]

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Scouting, in my opinion, would be much better if the scouting report had a more meaningful constitution. A scout who is good at what he does, doesn't matter if he's in the west, south, north, or east. Either you can recognize talent or you can't.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Scouting, in my opinion, would be much better if the scouting report had a more meaningful constitution. A scout who is good at what he does, doesn't matter if he's in the west, south, north, or east. Either you can recognize talent or you can't.

Not necessarily the case. That's why there are AREA scouts. They specialize in a particular area and have often taken years to develop relationships with high school and college coaches in that area so they know where to look. There are a gajillion (an exact number) high schools in the United States and it helps to know where, of those gajillion schools, to set up shop. It also helps to know people in the area who can tip you off to one-off guys from non-traditional power programs. IMO, the game replicates this nicely insofar as it is a pretty basic interface.

So, while a good scout will know a good player when he sees one, there is absolutely area specialization in scouting for practical reasons if nothing else.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Are you certain fully scouted 99's will be 99?

Here are two examples of fully scouted players that are supposed to be 99:

SS Billy Buscher Overall 41 Potential 99.

Contact Actual and Potential 38--63, Power 27--47, speed 38--69 Fielding 28--71 Arm 32--63

2B Johnnie Ellsworth Overall 43 Potential 99.

Contact actual and potential 35--63, Power 36--52, speed 35--55, Fielding 38--67 Arm 36--47.

R. Nielsen

Pitcher 94
Position Player- 96
Discovery--98
Efficiency--49

This is the scout I use to fully scout position players. I also use P. Miller to scout for position players: Position Player 87 Discovery 91 Efficiency 55.

That is the post to which I replied. And you guys don't get why?

By the way, I never said anything about overall, knight, and you're doing it again.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Apparently, I can haz not good reading comprehension!