Analog hitting changed or not?

[bcruise]

Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

I am reposting this:

For simplicity sake let's call it just analog. Basically analog has been made an input option for zone and timing. So out of those two choices you use either buttons or analog. The analog portion is performed the same way for either. I asked about the angle (in or out) on the way up for the timing option and was told it was just straight up.

The controls for analog for timing or zone are as follows:

Right stick up to swing
Right stick left or right for a contact swing
Right stick down then up for a power swing

You will no longer input a button command for your swing type with analog. This will all be done by the right stick now.

So, there is no analog hitting option that includes left/right PCI placement this year?

[aukevin]

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So, there is no analog hitting option that includes left/right PCI placement this year?

Sounds to me like you move the PCI with the Left stick if you set it to Zone and then with an input option of Analog you swing with the right analog controls nem posted. Or you could set it to Directional with the left stick and swing with the right. Or just swing with the right analog with no movement of the left stick for timing.

[nemesis04]

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So, there is no analog hitting option that includes left/right PCI placement this year?

You mean the angle up to the inside or outside of the zone? If that is what you are referring to I was told no, only straight up. I specifically asked.

[bcruise]

Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

You mean the angle up to the inside or outside of the zone? If that is what you are referring to I was told no, only straight up. I specifically asked.

Okay, thanks for that clarification and I apologize to bukk. That basically does make the analog swing only timing-based.

[@legendm0de]

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Just a pointless change. I don't know why they couldn't just create another option & called it "Analog Timing."

I have tried timing swinging & I always swing early. Doing the stride myself helped mentally prepare me to read the pitch & swing at the right time. Maybe that's just the way I'm wired because I used to play baseball but that method just made sense to me. Was on the fence on getting it this year, but I think I'm skipping now.

I am still confused. Is zone plus analog still an option so that you still have to aim with the left stick and then push the right stick left, up or down and up for contact, normal and power swings. Instead of preloading the swing type by pressing no button (normal), square (power) and circle (contact)? Or is the only option for zone hitting with buttons?

What?

He never said anything about the left/right aspect of Pure Analog being removed.

bcruise, Pertaining to Analog + Zone he also already confirmed the L stick control in pure analog will only work as directional swing influence, just as in all the other hitting modes.

All that this change confirms is that the original zone & zone + analog system was already the control mechanism for influencing swing direction (albeit advanced i guess). In MLB 14, I never had any serious issue trying to manipulate the ball into a certain direction.

When this feature of MLB 15 directional hitting was originally announced it was a head scratcher, because many players felt like this was already capable in MLB 14 and the fear was we'd be forced into some gimmick of a directional swing. That's where we are now.

[@legendm0de]

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Just a pointless change. I don't know why they couldn't just create another option & called it "Analog Timing."

I have tried timing swinging & I always swing early. Doing the stride myself helped mentally prepare me to read the pitch & swing at the right time. Maybe that's just the way I'm wired because I used to play baseball but that method just made sense to me. Was on the fence on getting it this year, but I think I'm skipping now.

I am still confused. Is zone plus analog still an option so that you still have to aim with the left stick and then push the right stick left, up or down and up for contact, normal and power swings. Instead of preloading the swing type by pressing no button (normal), square (power) and circle (contact)? Or is the only option for zone hitting with buttons?

What?

He never said anything about the left/right aspect of Pure Analog being removed.

bcruise, Pertaining to Analog + Zone he also already confirmed the L stick control in pure analog will only work as directional swing influence, just as in all the other hitting modes.

All that this change confirms is that the original zone + analog system was already the control mechanism for influencing swing direction (albeit advanced). In MLB 14, I never had any serious issue trying to manipulate the ball into a certain direction.

When this feature of MLB 15 directional hitting was originally announced it was a head scratcher, because many players felt like this was already capable in MLB 14 and the fear was we'd be forced into some gimmick of a directional swing. That's where we are now.

[nemesis04]

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bcruise, Pertaining to Analog + Zone he also already confirmed the L stick control in pure analog will only work as directional swing influence, just as in all the other hitting modes.

For zone that is not correct, I think you got things twisted.

[@legendm0de]

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For zone that is not correct, I think you got things twisted.

I was only referencing Analog + Zone, the R L hitting mechanism, not the original zone. It's still unclear exactly what all the control options intel except for the complete removal of everything zone+analog offered.

[nemesis04]

Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

I was only referencing Analog + Zone, the R L hitting mechanism, not the original zone. It's still unclear exactly what all the control options intel except for the complete removal of everything zone+analog offered.

It's not unclear I have spelled it out quite clearly. Not sure how else to break it down.

[DarknightSV]

Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

No we felt it needed to be simplified. The user no longer has to worry about the batters stride timing anymore. Pushing up on the stick is as simple as pressing down on X and it arguably has a better feel to it. Analog hitting in it's state before the change was also not used by allot of users so a change was warranted.

Some people will like the change and some won't. We believe the former will out weigh the latter.

Can you provide more details as to how many players use analog? Overall %? Does the game track those details and report them back to SDS?

[djep]

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I did not see any penalty when I used it and I was not perfectly straight on the way up on some of them.

Lower the contact sliders down to about 2 and you can really tell the difference. Getting jammed out hitting weak grounders off the end of the bat...It was a thing of beauty.

The Show's pure analog system was the most rewarding and visceral hitting mechanic I've ever experienced in a baseball game. The way they've approached analog this year is like if they replace the down-up stick action in a video golf game and all you had to do was push up. Yeah, it would still work but doesn't make much sense.

This is very disappointing and will probably keep me on 14 for at least another season.

[ARoid1313]

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This decision does really suck.. Was Looking forward to the game but this really impacts those who have been playing this way for years ...

However this thread is picking up steam so hopefully enough of us can convince them to re think the removal of the old mechanic for those who use it exclusively

[Madden's Jowels]

Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

Lower the contact sliders down to about 2 and you can really tell the difference. Getting jammed out hitting weak grounders off the end of the bat...It was a thing of beauty.

The Show's pure analog system was the most rewarding and visceral hitting mechanic I've ever experienced in a baseball game. The way they've approached analog this year is like if they replace the down-up stick action in a video golf game and all you had to do was push up. Yeah, it would still work but doesn't make much sense.

This is very disappointing and will probably keep me on 14 for at least another season.

The golf analogy is the perfect way to put it.

[ScouserHUN]

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After opening the post a week ago, I'm amazed by the number of replies in this topic. I've been thinking a lot about this and came to the following conclusion:

1. The removal of a hitting interface is clearly a bad decision by the dev team. They were priding themselves about not removing any hitting or pitching option in the past, so I don't understand what happened.

2. Maybe, the new hitting engine (with directional hitting and everything else) makes it impossble to have the old swing mechanic work. Maybe stride timing would have been messed up wth all the changes in the background. Maybe, this is the case and this is why they decided to remove stride timing.

3. However, with the removal of stride timing they created a new system where you only have to decide power swing beforehand, but you can choose between normal & contact swing until the pitch is on it's way to you. This may give you the ability to foul off borderline pitches more easily, just as in real life.

In real life you decide beforehand if you are swing for the fences, but when you prepare with your normal swing you can change just to make contact. With the new system you can do this.

In the past with 0-2 & 1-2 counts I usually selected contact swing beforehand and when a pitch came right down the middle of the zone I usually ended up grounging out because of weak contact. Now, if there's a borderline pitch, I move the right stick to left or right, but if there is a hittable pitch I just move it up for a good hit.

To sum it up, the new system might work for the better, however I'd still prefer to have the old option too. Just to have the possibility to choose...

[LastActionHero]

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I feel the excact same way