Graphics?

[Madden's Jowels]

Re: Graphics?

Top 50 things total . I'm not so much interested in the game being improved graphically as other things such as
custom divisions
coaches & managers names editable
relocate franchises
roster vault & player vault carry over saves
rename umpires & their tendencies
create a stadium
create a uniform
create a stance
ALL uniform numbers available, even 42
I could go on. And on. And on. Most things that I would like will never make it into the Show, And most people wouldn't care for the same things I want.
A lot of things I want SCEA doesn't have any say over, it's MLB thats to blame.

Yeah I think our priorities just don't align, as having the actual on-field product look as close to real life as possible is far more important to me than having editable umpire names, although create-a-stadium and create-a-uniform would both be high on my list of "pipe dreams"

[aguero90]

Re: Graphics?

From what I heard, NBA 2k models look great. The sad thing is, mlb could have those exact models, and we'd still get complaining.

[A_Quiet_Pro]

Re: Graphics?

IDK, looking at that screen of Hosmer and comparing his CGI to the Tron, it looked VERY close. SCEA is getting there. (Although I will say visual concepts/2k has some GOOD face graphics).

[Stolm]

Re: Graphics?

From what I heard, NBA 2k models look great. The sad thing is, mlb could have those exact models, and we'd still get complaining.

But we'd get alot less of it.

[Factzzz]

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Not to be a jerk, but this is the most ignorant statement I've ever heard on here... like seriously. This is by far and away the BEST sports game out there, and a GREAT representation of the sport it portrays, and you're not going to buy because the art is a little off? Hopefully you're not as nitpicky with food, otherwise you may starve to death. (I'm not trying to start anything with you man, just trying to get you to see how silly this statement is).

NBA 2k is the best sports game out there easily.

Until the Show improves their graphics (player models mainly) and their presentation improves greatly, to be on the level of some other sports games, that statement will continue to not be true.

But the Show does have the greatest gameplay ever IMO, so for that, it's second best in my book.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: Graphics?

NBA 2k is the best sports game out there easily.

Until the Show improves their graphics (player models mainly) and their presentation improves greatly, to be on the level of some other sports games, that statement will continue to not be true.

But the Show does have the greatest gameplay ever IMO, so for that, it's second best in my book.

Yeah it's more about the bodies than it is the faces when generally speaking of 'player models'. Guys around here can work miracles with the face editor--the editor is actually pretty next gen even though some CAP makers desperately want more skin tones/textures/options. It's really only those blocky legacy torsos/legs/arms with minimally-detailed (token wrinkles) textures/layers/cloth physics that have people screaming that these graphics are not next gen. I realize SCEA has made some advances in skin tones/textures and lighting and am looking forward to see what that brings to immersion. It's not like they're doing nothing--they're doing the best they can no doubt.

SCEA can hit a homer with '16 if they do the carryover rosters, overhaul the stats, put in new player models, and keep working the commentary and franchise depth. But until that happens, although it's proper to respect what they bring to the table every year, I don't want them to get too comfortable. Visually, new player models would add an incredible amount to this game. It would be a game changer.

[Grub]

Re: Graphics?

This is what i've been saying since last year...

Until the player models are improved, people will say the game looks the same.

I wonder if people realize that all the models were improved from PS3 to PS4. They act like nothing's happened and keep waiting for "Dat next gen upgrayd"

[Factzzz]

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I wonder if people realize that all the models were improved from PS3 to PS4. They act like nothing's happened and keep waiting for "Dat next gen upgrayd"

Yeah, we are waiting for the next gen upgrade, you know, considering the fact that it's next gen (current gen now i guess).

And the models were improved, but they still look nearly the same to the ps3 models, just better versions if you will.

But the problems that existed with the ps3 models still exist on the ps4 models, two games into the cycle.

[Cubfan]

Re: Graphics?

You play as the Mets, you should be used to power outages!

And a empty stadium!

[A_Quiet_Pro]

Re: Graphics?

Hey man, I was at Citi Field in September for the first game of the last series vs Astros... the stadium was decently full.. just saying.

[redsox4evur]

Re: Graphics?

NBA 2k is the best sports game out there easily.

Until the Show improves their graphics (player models mainly) and their presentation improves greatly, to be on the level of some other sports games, that statement will continue to not be true.

But the Show does have the greatest gameplay ever IMO, so for that, it's second best in my book.

I agree with the guy you quoted. At least the Devs for the Show are here and ready to answer questions we have. You can't say the same about 2K. And most of the feedback that we give to the Show devs, they try to get into the game at some point. With 2K after they are done with patches all they care about is online or VC. I am going to leave it at that, but there are many more issues.

[A_Quiet_Pro]

Re: Graphics?

NBA 2k is the best sports game out there easily.

Until the Show improves their graphics (player models mainly) and their presentation improves greatly, to be on the level of some other sports games, that statement will continue to not be true.

But the Show does have the greatest gameplay ever IMO, so for that, it's second best in my book.

I disagree.. NBA2k is good, dont get me wrong, I have played it so I can compare... and I believe the Show is better. More fluid, more intuitive... I feel NBA's controls are too laggy and jerky sometimes. And same with gameplay.. a little too jerky and awkward at times for my liking. I dont get that with the Show. Are NBA's graphics better? Maybe... but the graphics in the Show are great. And the graphics comparison between the two given the gameplay comparison between the two, to me, Show wins. The only thing I'll concede as definitely better in 2k, presentation.

[Factzzz]

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I disagree.. NBA2k is good, dont get me wrong, I have played it so I can compare... and I believe the Show is better. More fluid, more intuitive... I feel NBA's controls are too laggy and jerky sometimes. And same with gameplay.. a little too jerky and awkward at times for my liking. I dont get that with the Show. Are NBA's graphics better? Maybe... but the graphics in the Show are great. And the graphics comparison between the two given the gameplay comparison between the two, to me, Show wins. The only thing I'll concede as definitely better in 2k, presentation.

Definitely a subjective topic, to each their own as people say.

The Show could definitely take somethings from 2k though, and 2k could learn some things from the Show for sure too.

[Madden's Jowels]

Re: Graphics?

I agree with the guy you quoted. At least the Devs for the Show are here and ready to answer questions we have. You can't say the same about 2K. And most of the feedback that we give to the Show devs, they try to get into the game at some point. With 2K after they are done with patches all they care about is online or VC. I am going to leave it at that, but there are many more issues.

2K definitely needs to stop pushing VC and microtransactions so hard, it almost ruined the game for a little while. 15 was better.

But you say "after they're done with patches all they care about is online or VC..." but at least they actually release multiple patches throughout the year. The Show doesn't really get patched. Once it's out, there's the release date patch and then after that it doesn't really happen. 2K releases gameplay patches and fixes/tweaks based on the fan feedback, constant court and jersey updates, adds new gear, etc. They also spend the time to release those daily live updates for player ratings. I realize they've got a bigger team, I'm just saying. They spend a lot of time throughout the year updating and maintaining the game. They've also got devs who post on OS just like The Show does.

[bronxbombers21325]

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2K definitely needs to stop pushing VC and microtransactions so hard, it almost ruined the game for a little while. 15 was better.

But you say "after they're done with patches all they care about is online or VC..." but at least they actually release multiple patches throughout the year. The Show doesn't really get patched. Once it's out, there's the release date patch and then after that it doesn't really happen. 2K releases gameplay patches and fixes/tweaks based on the fan feedback, constant court and jersey updates, adds new gear, etc. They also spend the time to release those daily live updates for player ratings. I realize they've got a bigger team, I'm just saying. They spend a lot of time throughout the year updating and maintaining the game. They've also got devs who post on OS just like The Show does.

I imagine that the devs of The Show would do the same things if they had the resources to do so. I'd say given the size of the team, they go way above and beyond what should be expected of them.