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  • seanjeezy
    The Future
    • Aug 2009
    • 3347

    #46
    Re: MLB 15 The Show Player Rating Predictions

    Wasn't Trout actually rated 120 overall or something like that? Hard to see him being below 99 even with the reduction in speed, fielding, and hitting ability because he is still the best overall player in the game.

    If keeps trending down the slugger path though, his ratings will continue to drop. I doubt he ever matches that two year peak ever again, but he should still be in the upper echelon for a long time, even if he becomes more of a slugger than an all around type.
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    • Will I Am
      Pro
      • Nov 2013
      • 928

      #47
      Re: MLB 15 The Show Player Rating Predictions

      Originally posted by Cavicchi
      Without the regular season, there is no post season.
      yes I agree but consistent post season heros should get some boost to their season ratings.

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      • Cavicchi
        MVP
        • Mar 2004
        • 2841

        #48
        Re: MLB 15 The Show Player Rating Predictions

        Originally posted by Will I Am
        yes I agree but consistent post season heros should get some boost to their season ratings.
        By consistent, do you mean over a number of years?

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        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52730

          #49
          Re: MLB 15 The Show Player Rating Predictions

          Originally posted by Will I Am
          yes I agree but consistent post season heros should get some boost to their season ratings.
          Maybe to their clutch rating, but I don't want to see a player who performs in the post-season get a overall, across the board ratings boosts for the next season.

          Plus if you're going to reward good play in the post season with ratings boosts, are you then going to penalize players with poor play in the post season with ratings declines?

          I could see it being part of the formula that determines ratings boosts/declines, but a very minimal part if at all.
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          • Cavicchi
            MVP
            • Mar 2004
            • 2841

            #50
            Re: MLB 15 The Show Player Rating Predictions

            Originally posted by countryboy
            Maybe to their clutch rating, but I don't want to see a player who performs in the post-season get a overall, across the board ratings boosts for the next season.

            Plus if you're going to reward good play in the post season with ratings boosts, are you then going to penalize players with poor play in the post season with ratings declines?

            I could see it being part of the formula that determines ratings boosts/declines, but a very minimal part if at all.
            I agree with most of what you said, except for that part regarding clutch. After seeing Freese get a 99 for clutch, I'm not interested in clutch being based on post season. There are 162 games available to ascertain a players statistical worth.

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            • Will I Am
              Pro
              • Nov 2013
              • 928

              #51
              Re: MLB 15 The Show Player Rating Predictions

              Originally posted by countryboy
              Maybe to their clutch rating, but I don't want to see a player who performs in the post-season get a overall, across the board ratings boosts for the next season.

              Plus if you're going to reward good play in the post season with ratings boosts, are you then going to penalize players with poor play in the post season with ratings declines?

              I could see it being part of the formula that determines ratings boosts/declines, but a very minimal part if at all.
              What I'd like to see is players who have performed well in playoffs get a boost when a team reaches the playoffs in the game but I'm not sure if the game can do that.

              Playoff stats if very poor or very good should somehow be included. I'm not sure if they have any effect as is or if it's all just season stats.

              Not sure if you've ever played PYS but that game gives players a ratings boost in certain situations. For instance if the bases are loaded a player who excels in that position will get a ratings boost.

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              • countryboy
                Growing pains
                • Sep 2003
                • 52730

                #52
                Re: MLB 15 The Show Player Rating Predictions

                Originally posted by Cavicchi
                I agree with most of what you said, except for that part regarding clutch. After seeing Freese get a 99 for clutch, I'm not interested in clutch being based on post season. There are 162 games available to ascertain a players statistical worth.
                Very good point. I honestly don't want to see post season give ratings boosts at all, at least not solely by itself.
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                • countryboy
                  Growing pains
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 52730

                  #53
                  Re: MLB 15 The Show Player Rating Predictions

                  Originally posted by Will I Am
                  What I'd like to see is players who have performed well in playoffs get a boost when a team reaches the playoffs in the game but I'm not sure if the game can do that.

                  Playoff stats if very poor or very good should somehow be included. I'm not sure if they have any effect as is or if it's all just season stats.
                  My issue with this is that players go through hot and cold streaks throughout the course of a season and the playoffs are no different. Meaning that a player could have a bad few games, his team get beat and then if his team reaches the playoffs the following year, you're suggesting his ratings should take a hit. I don't see where that is fair. A good player is a good player, an average player is an average player, and a poor player is a poor player.



                  Not sure if you've ever played PYS but that game gives players a ratings boost in certain situations. For instance if the bases are loaded a player who excels in that position will get a ratings boost.
                  Never played PYS. But the Show has a clutch rating that serves the same type of premise as to what you're describing.
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                  I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                  • Will I Am
                    Pro
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 928

                    #54
                    Re: MLB 15 The Show Player Rating Predictions

                    Do you know or have you noticed if the PCI gets bigger in a bases loaded type situation when a player has a high clutch rating?

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                    • RLebron12
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 769

                      #55
                      MLB 15 The Show Player Rating Predictions

                      I agree that you definitely have to take in account of the regular season more so than the play offs...but I think that it definitely needs to be in the formula some where.

                      When you have people who have been to the post season several times and done amazing and someone who's been there several times and has bombed it...that needs to be reflected somewhere.

                      No way Kershaw should be OVR better in the post season than MadBum when the stats show Kershaw is just plain horrible in post season and MadBum is one of the best, and is the best once it's in the a World Series. Now I'm not sure how they would calculate that into he formula but to turn a blind eye to that would be wrong.


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                      • Cavicchi
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 2841

                        #56
                        Re: MLB 15 The Show Player Rating Predictions

                        Originally posted by RLebron12
                        I agree that you definitely have to take in account of the regular season more so than the play offs...but I think that it definitely needs to be in the formula some where.

                        When you have people who have been to the post season several times and done amazing and someone who's been there several times and has bombed it...that needs to be reflected somewhere.

                        No way Kershaw should be OVR better in the post season than MadBum when the stats show Kershaw is just plain horrible in post season and MadBum is one of the best, and is the best once it's in the a World Series. Now I'm not sure how they would calculate that into he formula but to turn a blind eye to that would be wrong.


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                        Because Kershaw did poorly against the Cardinals means he will always be like that in the post season? And because Bumgarner destroyed the mighty powerful Royals means he will always do it to any team? What was wrong with Bumgarner in the regular season? He wasn't trying, just lazy, tired?

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                        • RLebron12
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 769

                          #57
                          Re: MLB 15 The Show Player Rating Predictions

                          Originally posted by Cavicchi
                          Because Kershaw did poorly against the Cardinals means he will always be like that in the post season? And because Bumgarner destroyed the mighty powerful Royals means he will always do it to any team? What was wrong with Bumgarner in the regular season? He wasn't trying, just lazy, tired?

                          MadBum has been lights out in the World Series to any team he has pitched against. "the mighty powerful royals" the Tigers, and The Rangers. He has the lowest era in World Series having so many IP.

                          Kershaw on the other hand I believe is the only SP to have lost 4 straight Post Season games, and his era is not good and not even close to what it is in the regular season.

                          Nothing was wrong with Bum in the regular season he is still an amazing and dominant pitcher. Kershaw is the best regular season pitcher in the league im not doubting that. But something about the pressure or being in those big situations..Bum is better than Kershaw. I guess you could call that being Clutch


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                          • countryboy
                            Growing pains
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 52730

                            #58
                            Re: MLB 15 The Show Player Rating Predictions

                            Originally posted by Will I Am
                            Do you know or have you noticed if the PCI gets bigger in a bases loaded type situation when a player has a high clutch rating?
                            I don't play with the PCI on so I have no clue if it does.
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                            • Cavicchi
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 2841

                              #59
                              Re: MLB 15 The Show Player Rating Predictions

                              Originally posted by RLebron12
                              MadBum has been lights out in the World Series to any team he has pitched against. "the mighty powerful royals" the Tigers, and The Rangers. He has the lowest era in World Series having so many IP.

                              Kershaw on the other hand I believe is the only SP to have lost 4 straight Post Season games, and his era is not good and not even close to what it is in the regular season.

                              Nothing was wrong with Bum in the regular season he is still an amazing and dominant pitcher. Kershaw is the best regular season pitcher in the league im not doubting that. But something about the pressure or being in those big situations..Bum is better than Kershaw. I guess you could call that being Clutch


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                              I see it a different way, Bumgarner has been exceptional against teams that do not see him often, teams in the AL.

                              Kershaw should have been pulled before the storm came, but Mattingly left him in because of their bullpen. MLB, the TV station, rated the best pitchers and Kershaw was first on everyone's list.

                              Bumgarner has to show that "exceptional quality" in the regular season to be compared with Kershaw. Teams don't get to the playoffs every year, and rating Bumgarner or any player based on what they do in post season is wrong to me.

                              Now I can understand your feelings about Kershaw, you being a Giants fan, but the Cy Young trophy on three years belongs to Kershaw, and now an MVP as well. Thus, they don't rate pitchers based solely on post season. You can be a world series MVP, but that quite often has no bearing on regular season, example Freese.

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                              • Cavicchi
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 2841

                                #60
                                Re: MLB 15 The Show Player Rating Predictions

                                By the way, Bumgarner's "great" post season stuff didn't show up in 2012 when his ERA was 6.00

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