New The show payer already dissapointed im wrong?

[gustavus]

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I'm disappointed in a lot of things absent in MLBTS that were key to what made 2K baseball fun and compelling. It blows my mind that they don't have Inside Edge stats that drive the tendencies of players, as well as realistic strengths and weaknesses of pitchers and hitters. It feels like going back to baby baseball.



The new analog hittind, combined with directional control is awesome. But I will miss the Hitter's Eye, which was a perfect way to give better hitters a realistic advantage that not only led to better contact, but more drawn walks.



I wish SCEA felt more comfortable copying 2K:s gesture pitching, too. Although, they could one up 2K by bringing back the third step VC eliminated in 2K9.



There is so much that it is better about MLBTS, that it kills me that the key components of hitting and pitching is such a letdown.

[Cavicchi]

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I'm disappointed in a lot of things absent in MLBTS that were key to what made 2K baseball fun and compelling. It blows my mind that they don't have Inside Edge stats that drive the tendencies of players, as well as realistic strengths and weaknesses of pitchers and hitters. It feels like going back to baby baseball.



The new analog hittind, combined with directional control is awesome. But I will miss the Hitter's Eye, which was a perfect way to give better hitters a realistic advantage that not only led to better contact, but more drawn walks.



I wish SCEA felt more comfortable copying 2K:s gesture pitching, too. Although, they could one up 2K by bringing back the third step VC eliminated in 2K9.



There is so much that it is better about MLBTS, that it kills me that the key components of hitting and pitching is such a letdown.

Yup, I also loved that Inside Edge and how it translated to realism. Inside Edge is what I miss most, pitching with meaningful knowledge of the hitter.

[CaseIH]

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Yup, I also loved that Inside Edge and how it translated to realism. Inside Edge is what I miss most, pitching with meaningful knowledge of the hitter.

Yeah stat wise MLBTS has always lacked, but I will take that over having stats like MLB2k did, but the game being glitched and basically unplayable, or atleast in franchise mode, plus you couldn't get realistic stats.


Definitely hope MLBTS starts to improve on added stats soon, as that really is the only thing missing or lacking.


As for the way 2k did their pitching, to me wasn't realistic, turning you control in a circle or going half way them turn it the other way just added difficulty, but personally analog throwing is more realistic IMO, but 2k did make it a challenge to throw pitches, personally I hated that way of doing it, but that's just personal preference.

[catswithbats]

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Its up to you. It's really the only game out there for baseball fans. I wish mvp would come back. The trade logic has gone unchanged since 2006 and is about as bad as it gets. Players aged 34 and 35 putting up big numbers retire with years left on their contracts. It's extremely frustrating. While playing rtts the rosters are unrecognizable two years in with the amount of insane trades. They could easily fix this issue by allowing us to turn trades off during rtts. I have no idea why this isn't an option.

I know for sure this isn't true because I have players hanging onto their careers at 34 or 35 that I'd wish would just retire and they refuse.

[catswithbats]

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I'd love to see them go with a two man team of Matty V and Harold Reynolds. Any of the mainstays from MLB Network would be good with me.

If The Show adds Harold Reynolds as a commentator I'll stop buying it.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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If The Show adds Harold Reynolds as a commentator I'll stop buying it.

If that's because of his "off the field" behaviour I can understand that.
If it's because of his style of announcing. I'm sure there'd be an option to mute him

[Pared]

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Yes. You are.

[My993C2]

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I was on the fence contemplating playing another year with MLB 14 and then picking up MLB 15 this time next season at a discounted price. However I nixed that idea last night. I'm in, I pre-ordered the game on the PSN. Are all my concerns about MLB The Show addressed with how I play the game? Of course not. But I've seen enough from the various feature + game play video streams in the last week to see there are enough new changes that I will enjoy and did I really want to wait a whole year for these changes all to save $40?

I am a "Manage Only Mode" + "Season Mode" player who tries to mirror the real world schedule as close as I can. Unless I am in a big rush to get the day's game in, I tend to play my MoM games with Quick Counts disabled and play it will the full presentation and there are two things I am looking forward to in MLB 15.

1) I am looking forward to the enhanced graphics where the sun is more realistic in not only the Spring and Fall games versus the Summer games. But I am also looking forward to how the early evening games start with the sun and progress into night.

2) The other change I am looking forward to is all the new situation animations which "knock on wood" will make the game even more realistic. You know stuff like the new animations where the infielders field the ball and don't rush their throws to first because the base runner realizes he has no chance of beating out the throw to 1st and doesn't not sprint to the bag.

Also I have started my MLB 15 Spring Training season (5 games into it) already albeit using MLB 14 with modified 2015 OSFM rosters and when I play my MoM Spring Training games (or watch other CPU vs CPU games) I say to myself "You know MLB 14 for the PS4 is a great game, I can't wait to see the improvements in MLB 15".

[Ruffy]

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They say the trade logic is reworked every year and it never is. "The Show has fewer trades than real baseball"? You're joking right? Rtts the last place twins trade Top prospects Miguel Sano and Byron Buxton for a middle aged relief pitcher. Derek Jeter was traded to the padres, Jon Lester straight up for Strasburg even though he was in the last year of his deal!! Giancarlo Stanton straight up for Josh Reddick!! i could go on and on, but there's not enough room. By the end of year 2 most of the teams only have a handful of players left. Players retire way too early and are replaced by generic cartoon looking characters (White guys with pimples and cornrows, Black guys with blonde beards and blonde hair!) All I'm asking for is the option to turn trades off during rtts.. Why is that so difficult?

Why an infraction for that? Was a little aggressive i suppose.

[CaseIH]

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Why an infraction for that? Was a little aggressive i suppose.

I agree, maybe he could have worded it better, but he is speaking the truth about trade logic. The devs say every year they have reworked trade logic, and every year its horrible, and everyone complains. I love this game, but trade logic is 1 of the rare things they don't do great.


Obviously they will never get it perfect to everyones liking whether its MLBTS or NBA2k as well as Madden, but trade logic in all these games have been very bad.


Im sure its easier said than done, but with the technology today you would think it would be a lot better than it is. Hopefully this is the yr that the trade logic gets done right, but atleast we have 30 team control, so we can nix stupid trades. Having all team control is the best thing they ever done for sports games, along with MLBTS adding the ability to manual injure players.


The MLBTS devs have always been top notch, so if its possible to get trade logic right they will get it done before Madden or NBA2k does, I can guarantee that.

[kehlis]

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Why an infraction for that? Was a little aggressive i suppose.

PM a mod in the future with this question.

Most people you see randomly banned are because their previous name was banned. It's wrong to derail a thread with this discussion and you should know that.

[Ruffy]

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PM a mod in the future with this question.

Most people you see randomly banned are because their previous name was banned. It's wrong to derail a thread with this discussion and you should know that.

I don't think it derailed the thread. He had some points via the trade situations.

In the streams the team has said they have put considerable time on that to fix the multi deals etc.

Its hard to have good trade logic even OOTP15 has some weird ones.

I think sometimes guys here try to start fights so they can ban or issue a warning.

[kehlis]

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I don't think it derailed the thread.

We're now five unnecessary posts deep talking about why someone who was previously banned was banned again. That is something that shouldn't be discussed publically at all. Definition of derailing a thread.

You asked why he was banned. Your post made no mention of the overall point of his post.

He had some points via the trade situations.

Great. Didn't say they weren't valid. A PBU is a PBU.

Had you been discussing his post rather than his status here this wouldn't even be a discussion.

[cervin29]

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I was also a 2K player through 2K12 (When I saw the release for 13 was going to be the exact game I balked on it) and was always pretty satisfied. I loved the analog control system that they used which built off of what was done in the MVP games including the college effort they put out.

I began watching youtube videos on MLBTS 13 contemplating buying a PS3 just to have it because I loved what I saw. I ended up buying a PS4 and got the show 14 as my first experience and I love it. Overall I think MLBTS is better and you'll enjoy the switch.

My pros for MLBTS are definitly the graphics especially in regards to the players and stadiums. It overall feels much more like a representation of real baseball. The fielding is by far smoother with plenty of different animations, you don't feel like you are watching the same thing over and over like in 2K. The customization ability in MLBTS is way more advanced too which I liked. The A.I in MLBTS is also a difference maker and it helps make the experience different from game to game. In 2k I was always really dominant but in MLBTS I have games where I am just clicking on all cylinders but some games I can't do anything right lol and I love that.

My cons coming from 2K are small but the thing that I miss is the analog controls for hitting and pitching. I don't like in MLBTS 14 how with the analog hitting you don't control your type of swing like you can with the other options where you have power, normal, and contact. In 2K you had the option to move the stick down to load up and then forward for a power swing, a risk and reward type scenario. You also had the option to press up on the stick for a contact swing, higher chance of contact and you did see a decrease in power. I could tell the difference in my ability to time a pitch between the two swing types (I could time a swing much better with the contact swing, and you could get into some real duels with the pitcher to get a pitch to hit). The analog control in MLBTS I just don't feel like I have control over the type of swing I am putting on the ball, I could have perfect timing and location and hit a sharp grounder to 2nd but the next batter my timing could be a little off and I am rifling one to the gap.
The same goes for pitching, I saw someone had mentioned they didn't like the motion control to create the pitch pattern but I loved it because you had to really slow down and concentrate on what you were doing and had a much better idea of what you did wrong. The analog pitch control in MLBTS is just boring because its the same thing over and over and it becomes very easy to repeat. I also really liked the hitter's eye as opposed to the guess pitch option, in real life hitters often take advantage of mistake pitches but in MLBTS they seem to catch me off guard more than anything where in 2K you can really feel the advantage and capitalize on bad mistakes.
The only other thing I will say that 2K did better than MLBTS is swing fluidity, the one handed swing in MLBTS is terrible to be honest. Everyone with it finishes the exact same and it just looks awkward and uncomfortable.


Overall there was a good adjustment phase I went through but I can definitely say I am 100% happy with MLBTS and I would still prefer it over 2K even if it was still being made. You can tell the guys the work on the game take pride in what they do and really care about the people who play the game.

[ryanmc564]

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My cons coming from 2K are small but the thing that I miss is the analog controls for hitting and pitching. I don't like in MLBTS 14 how with the analog hitting you don't control your type of swing like you can with the other options where you have power, normal, and contact. In 2K you had the option to move the stick down to load up and then forward for a power swing, a risk and reward type scenario.

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lucky for you MLB 15 the show switch the analog controls to like the last few 2k games had, batting wise, pitching is staying the same