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  • Armor and Sword
    The Lama
    • Sep 2010
    • 21792

    #46
    Re: Now that you played both 14 and 15, was it worth it?

    Originally posted by Cavicchi
    Yes, those two are the biggies for me. I would also take 14 with the graphical improvements and roster update. I'm even thinking of going back to 14 and look for a current roster in the vault. I spend too much time trying to find info on that last pitch and late or early and type, and batter tendencies, all so easy in 14.
    Well...hold on now. It's easy to get last pitch and late early info.

    Simply pull back R2.....press the D-Pad to the right and you will have last pitch, late, early or good info.

    I liked the info on 14 better. But it is not hard to get that particular info on 15.

    I liked the info on 14 better when you pressed up on the D-Pad than this year. I liked when you pressed the track pad you got hot zones and info for the batter and pitcher faster and easier.

    It was better on 14. But I can get it on 15.....I learned how and now it has become second nature after playing a ton of games.

    Also something on 15 that blows away 14 in terms of functionality is the quick shifts.

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    • Cavicchi
      MVP
      • Mar 2004
      • 2841

      #47
      Re: Now that you played both 14 and 15, was it worth it?

      Originally posted by Armor and Sword
      Well...hold on now. It's easy to get last pitch and late early info.

      Simply pull back R2.....press the D-Pad to the right and you will have last pitch, late, early or good info.

      I liked the info on 14 better. But it is not hard to get that particular info on 15.

      I liked the info on 14 better when you pressed up on the D-Pad than this year. I liked when you pressed the track pad you got hot zones and info for the batter and pitcher faster and easier.

      It was better on 14. But I can get it on 15.....I learned how and now it has become second nature after playing a ton of games.

      Also something on 15 that blows away 14 in terms of functionality is the quick shifts.

      AWESOME.
      I'm not thrilled about quick shifts. Last game I shifted extreme left for Goldy and Trumbo consecutive at bats. They both hit it where my second baseman would have been. Nope, no more shifting for me. By the way, there was only an option for one extreme shift, not both right and left. What I did was through defensive positioning.

      That is a bit awkward for pitch info, and what about batter tendencies? Honestly, I am not impressed with anything they did for 15 other than the graphics.

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      • bukktown
        MVP
        • Jan 2007
        • 3257

        #48
        Re: Now that you played both 14 and 15, was it worth it?

        They made fielding fun in 2015. The animations are better. It is approaching 2k basketball in the animation dept which is high praise from me.

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        • My993C2
          MVP
          • Sep 2012
          • 1588

          #49
          Re: Now that you played both 14 and 15, was it worth it?

          Originally posted by Armor and Sword
          after a nice patch forth coming to clean up some obvious bugs and hiccups this is hands down, and it is not even close, the very best sports game I have ever played.
          Don't get me wrong, I am having fun playing the game. But we need to wait to see what is actually changed in the next build before we proclaim a possible patch as the "patch that fixes all the issues". I have a growing laundry list of things that worked fine in MLB 14 that have either been outright removed from the game or just don't work anymore. It's as if the build they released to the world was not regression tested and if it was, the results of the tests were ignored. Now it can be argued that despite all these things that don't work like they used to, none of them are show stoppers, that the game is still playable. So in that regard we can still enjoy the game. But we don't know what they are working on. The vast majority of the bugs that the general public have raised still sit in an "Opened" state with no comments whatsoever in them. It's a great game, but it is still the buggiest release I have ever seen in the four years I've been playing the game.

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          • Armor and Sword
            The Lama
            • Sep 2010
            • 21792

            #50
            Re: Now that you played both 14 and 15, was it worth it?

            Originally posted by Cavicchi
            I'm not thrilled about quick shifts. Last game I shifted extreme left for Goldy and Trumbo consecutive at bats. They both hit it where my second baseman would have been. Nope, no more shifting for me. By the way, there was only an option for one extreme shift, not both right and left. What I did was through defensive positioning.

            That is a bit awkward for pitch info, and what about batter tendencies? Honestly, I am not impressed with anything they did for 15 other than the graphics.
            The game play improvements are off the charts.

            1. Best fielding controls ever for The Show
            2. Best ball physics ever for The Show
            3. Best Pitching breaks, and ball spins and being able to read pitches ever.
            4. Amazing new animations
            5. CPU AI is even better than ever hands down.
            6. Franchise hub, menu's, radio show greatly enhanced and has made franchise feel far more alive this year IMO.
            7. Year to year saves.....insane feature.
            8. Licensed equipment add's so much. I never thought it would. It does.
            9. Ball off the bat visual is massive for impressiveness.
            10. Directional hitting is a god send. A pure god send for us Timed hitters.
            11. The new speed paradigm for outfielders and base runners is amazing and super realistic. It has made the game feel and play even more sim.
            11. Online has finally arrived for the series which opened up two modes for me. Diamond Dynasty and Online Franchise. Highly addictive. It is drugs for this long time baseball card junkie!!


            This game smokes 14. Not even close.
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            • DJ
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2003
              • 17756

              #51
              Re: Now that you played both 14 and 15, was it worth it?

              Originally posted by Armor and Sword
              The game play improvements are off the charts.

              1. Best fielding controls ever for The Show
              2. Best ball physics ever for The Show
              3. Best Pitching breaks, and ball spins and being able to read pitches ever.
              4. Amazing new animations
              5. CPU AI is even better than ever hands down.
              6. Franchise hub, menu's, radio show greatly enhanced and has made franchise feel far more alive this year IMO.
              7. Year to year saves.....insane feature.
              8. Licensed equipment add's so much. I never thought it would. It does.
              9. Ball off the bat visual is massive for impressiveness.
              10. Directional hitting is a god send. A pure god send for us Timed hitters.
              11. The new speed paradigm for outfielders and base runners is amazing and super realistic. It has made the game feel and play even more sim.
              11. Online has finally arrived for the series which opened up two modes for me. Diamond Dynasty and Online Franchise. Highly addictive. It is drugs for this long time baseball card junkie!!


              This game smokes 14. Not even close.
              Can't argue with any of this. I didn't play 14 a lot on the PS4 (didn't get a PS4 until the end of 2014), but when I did play, didn't feel like it was a big upgrade from the PS3 version I had been playing.

              MLB 15 is what I'd consider the first true offering on the PS4. This game blows away MLB 14 and it's not even close.
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              • Cavicchi
                MVP
                • Mar 2004
                • 2841

                #52
                Re: Now that you played both 14 and 15, was it worth it?

                Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                The game play improvements are off the charts.

                1. Best fielding controls ever for The Show
                2. Best ball physics ever for The Show
                3. Best Pitching breaks, and ball spins and being able to read pitches ever.
                4. Amazing new animations
                5. CPU AI is even better than ever hands down.
                6. Franchise hub, menu's, radio show greatly enhanced and has made franchise feel far more alive this year IMO.
                7. Year to year saves.....insane feature.
                8. Licensed equipment add's so much. I never thought it would. It does.
                9. Ball off the bat visual is massive for impressiveness.
                10. Directional hitting is a god send. A pure god send for us Timed hitters.
                11. The new speed paradigm for outfielders and base runners is amazing and super realistic. It has made the game feel and play even more sim.
                11. Online has finally arrived for the series which opened up two modes for me. Diamond Dynasty and Online Franchise. Highly addictive. It is drugs for this long time baseball card junkie!!


                This game smokes 14. Not even close.
                1. I use auto fielding.

                2. Haven't seen that much of a difference with ball physics, except for pitch types.

                3. Does not help me read pitches anymore than in 14. Still, I will say I like the way pitches move. However, I do not like this hitting changeups seems to be outs. I also don't like being late on an inside fastball and pulling it!

                4. Haven't seen that many amazing animations.

                5. CPU looks pretty much the same to me.

                6. I am not the least bit impressed with the radio show. They could have left it out as far as I'm concerned.

                7. Not important to me as I generally play one year. Progression based on performance is not something I like when CPU controls that aspect. Trout lost power against RHP and LHP after two games without facing a LHP. Kershaw lost stamina same as last year. Trout doesn't even feel like Trout--same as last year.

                8. Equipment is nice, but I'm more interested in gameplay. I see pretty much the same gameplay as in 14.

                9. The only time I'm interested in ball off the bat is getting hits.

                10. I turned off the directional arrows and use the same Timing as in 14.

                11. I still see those amazing CPU fielders running and diving as in 14.

                I don't play online.

                The biggest loser for me is pitch info, and performance based progression could very well be a downer as well. The AI can easily get any player to perform poorly. I would rather they let us have the option to turn that off, just like GM contracts.

                Forgot to mention auto baserunning looks worse than last year. Through 6 games I've had quite a number of players out trying to steal and advancing. Even Trout was an easy out trying for a triple. Oh really, Trout is not a good base runner? He's been thrown out trying to steal and advancing-all in six games, not to mention the many double plays he hits into. Low ball threat? Nah, just another singles hitter--same as in 14.
                Last edited by Cavicchi; 04-14-2015, 06:48 PM.

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                • Knight165
                  *ll St*r
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 24964

                  #53
                  Re: Now that you played both 14 and 15, was it worth it?

                  This really took me by surprise.

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                  • grubby
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 21

                    #54
                    Re: Now that you played both 14 and 15, was it worth it?

                    I really liked the chance to continue my rtts.
                    the overall game just seems to be better, it's very smooth

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                    • TheRealC7R
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 62

                      #55
                      Re: Now that you played both 14 and 15, was it worth it?

                      Originally posted by Cavicchi
                      Yes, those two are the biggies for me. I would also take 14 with the graphical improvements and roster update. I'm even thinking of going back to 14 and look for a current roster in the vault. I spend too much time trying to find info on that last pitch and late or early and type, and batter tendencies, all so easy in 14.
                      I've already went back to 14 until a patch is released for 15, which hopefully fixes the major bugs and tightens up the lighting/presentation hiccups that I've seen. Striking out on a two strike count because of a pitch in the dirt in irritating, as is hitting what should be a go-ahead homer, only to see the runner still on first. Also, for some reason, it seems to me that 14 has a slightly better frame-rate when throwing from the outfield to the infield or from 3B/SS to 1B.

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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52731

                        #56
                        Re: Now that you played both 14 and 15, was it worth it?

                        Originally posted by Zinger
                        A statement like this makes me scratch my head in puzzlement. I only ever play season mode. Twice in 8 games in my Pirates season I have had to restart games because of game freezes triggered by onfield gameplay. If you go to the bugs thread you will see that many, many people have reported these game-breaking freezes. So why do you and many others say that the game runs smoother than ever this year? We all have the same software, don't we??? I agree that overall the game is better than ever this year but for me it has become unplayable until a patch fixes the onfield gameplay freeze issues.
                        If you're experiencing the same freeze that I had once, just pause the game go to the menu, save the game, go to the frontend of the game (out of franchise/season mode) and then reload the game. It will pick up to what happened just before the freeze and continue.

                        Cumbersome I know, but it resolves the freeze issue. At least the one I experienced.
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                        • Armor and Sword
                          The Lama
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 21792

                          #57
                          Re: Now that you played both 14 and 15, was it worth it?

                          Originally posted by Cavicchi
                          1. I use auto fielding. - So do I, but online you can't. I am sure your not playing online.....your loss.

                          2. Haven't seen that much of a difference with ball physics, except for pitch types. - Incredible. I have played 50 plus games...massive improvement.

                          3. Does not help me read pitches anymore than in 14. Still, I will say I like the way pitches move. However, I do not like this hitting changeups seems to be outs. I also don't like being late on an inside fastball and pulling it! - That's a shame. I read pitches better than ever. I can clearly tell a change, slider, curve, splitter, sinker etc better than ever.

                          4. Haven't seen that many amazing animations. - I have seen well over a dozen new fielding animations.....and I expect to keep seeing more and more.

                          5. CPU looks pretty much the same to me. - Not to me. They are more aggressive and the CPU pitchers on all-star and above are smarter.

                          6. I am not the least bit impressed with the radio show. They could have left it out as far as I'm concerned. - Too bad. I love using it just like Knight described in his impression post. It just makes the league feel alive while I do my scouting, stat finding, lineup management, trade block, who's hot who's not etc etc.

                          7. Not important to me as I generally play one year. Progression based on performance is not something I like when CPU controls that aspect. Trout lost power against RHP and LHP after two games without facing a LHP. Kershaw lost stamina same as last year. Trout doesn't even feel like Trout--same as last year. - Important to me and tons of Show players. - It is an amazing, game changing feature. There are an incredible amount of Show players who love this feature.

                          8. Equipment is nice, but I'm more interested in gameplay. I see pretty much the same gameplay as in 14. - Gameplay is always first for me....like I said I never thought it would be a big deal...until I saw it. Now it makes the game even more real and feel like The real Show. I see and feel gameplay that blows away 14....and I played 14 for the entire year and loved it. This game is miles better.

                          9. The only time I'm interested in ball off the bat is getting hits. - huh....yeah that's what I am talking about when you hit the ball you see it off the bat now.

                          10. I turned off the directional arrows and use the same Timing as in 14. - I have the arrows off too.....I still use it and it makes hitting more organic. Too bad your not taking advantage of an outstanding feature.

                          11. I still see those amazing CPU fielders running and diving as in 14. - you don't get it.

                          I don't play online. - Your loss.

                          The biggest loser for me is pitch info, and performance based progression could very well be a downer as well. The AI can easily get any player to perform poorly. I would rather they let us have the option to turn that off, just like GM contracts.

                          Forgot to mention auto baserunning looks worse than last year. Through 6 games I've had quite a number of players out trying to steal and advancing. Even Trout was an easy out trying for a triple. Oh really, Trout is not a good base runner? He's been thrown out trying to steal and advancing-all in six games, not to mention the many double plays he hits into. Low ball threat? Nah, just another singles hitter--same as in 14.
                          Best advice I can give you is to trade the game in quick so you can get the most value for it!

                          Your opinion. And your obviously entitled to it. Too bad. I think the game is brilliant.
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                          • Cavicchi
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 2841

                            #58
                            Re: Now that you played both 14 and 15, was it worth it?

                            Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                            Best advice I can give you is to trade the game in quick so you can get the most value for it!

                            Your opinion. And your obviously entitled to it. Too bad. I think the game is brilliant.
                            Regression at age 23 does not seem brilliant to me. Trout not only lost power, but he also lost speed. I thought his speed was 87 until I looked at the starting roster and saw he had 88 speed. now all this occurring within the first few games of the season is not brilliant to me. When you can't accurately reproduce what many consider the best player in the game, the reflection is on the product, not the player. I saw it in 14 as well. Thus, I experimented last year by putting McCutchen on my team playing him in LF with Trout in CF. Sure enough, McCutchen was getting nice pitches to hit, but not so with Trout.

                            I have the digital version of 15 so trading it in will not work. I still have 14 (digital version).

                            Trout is the youngest player in my starting lineup, and seeing him "regress" at age 23, losing power and speed, would, I guess, make sense to you. After all, you did say the game is brilliant.

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                            • zxfg
                              Just started!
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 4

                              #59
                              Re: Now that you played both 14 and 15, was it worth it?

                              15 is worth it for the new lighting engine alone, imo, but that's just me being a lighting whore. ymmv.

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                              • badmrfrosty7
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 219

                                #60
                                Re: Now that you played both 14 and 15, was it worth it?

                                Originally posted by Cavicchi
                                Regression at age 23 does not seem brilliant to me. Trout not only lost power, but he also lost speed. I thought his speed was 87 until I looked at the starting roster and saw he had 88 speed. now all this occurring within the first few games of the season is not brilliant to me. When you can't accurately reproduce what many consider the best player in the game, the reflection is on the product, not the player. I saw it in 14 as well. Thus, I experimented last year by putting McCutchen on my team playing him in LF with Trout in CF. Sure enough, McCutchen was getting nice pitches to hit, but not so with Trout.

                                I have the digital version of 15 so trading it in will not work. I still have 14 (digital version).

                                Trout is the youngest player in my starting lineup, and seeing him "regress" at age 23, losing power and speed, would, I guess, make sense to you. After all, you did say the game is brilliant.
                                I think the idea of progressive regression is meant to mimic "Condition" in other sports games but it gives you an actual number for how the attributes are affected instead of an upward/downward arrow or smiley/sad face. I'd hate to believe that Trout regresses in every user's franchise and it's more likely you just have to play through his slump and reap the benefits when he gets on track.

                                Now if that's not happening because he's not getting the same hit variety or pitches as he does in real life, that's a different argument. Or if you feel he's underrated, re-rate him before starting your season. But I feel Franchise needs something like this to best reflect the ups and downs of a long year and give some life to it.

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