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  • cardinalbird5
    MVP
    • Jul 2006
    • 2814

    #76
    Re: Too Many "Pedro Martinez" Type Changeups?

    Originally posted by HozAndMoose
    I agree. But it wont matter. If they change it everyone will just use players that still have it. There will always be BS cheese in online sports games. Especially ultimate team modes.
    True but i can live with facing guys that throw something that slow in real life. Darvish does ocassionally throw a 69 mph curve and Neshek throws a 70 mph change. I wont complain about those two at all.
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    • RandyBass
      MVP
      • Dec 2009
      • 1179

      #77
      Re: Too Many "Pedro Martinez" Type Changeups?

      Custom hitting cameras help tremendously.

      When setting one up I suggest:

      1. Tilt the camera slightly and move it too, so that you aren't looking straight at the pitch, and try to sort of simulate the angle a hitter would actually see the pitch. This helps pitch recognition.

      2. Adjust the zoom and height so that pitches at the bottom of the zone actually look low. To put it another way if your camera is too high, it is very difficult to decipher low pitches, especially change ups.

      3. Use all four slots for custom cameras, or at least multiple ones, and try different angles and different variations and combinations. Some of the preset ones make the pitcher appear closer or further away, and that makes a difference when choosing a camera as the base camera to begin with.

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      • jcar0725
        "ADAPT OR DIE"
        • Aug 2010
        • 3818

        #78
        Re: Too Many "Pedro Martinez" Type Changeups?

        Guys I'm not trying to sound like a jerk when I said "just get better at hitting", but I think there is at least some truth in that statement.

        I had a big problem with change-ups in this year's game. I have since made adjustments and now it's not problem, in fact most of it was in my head.

        So, a pitcher in the game has a good change-up, but the pitcher in real MLB doesn't really have a change-up. SO WHAT. This isn't reality. It's a video game.

        Sliders, Camera angles, Guess pitch, etc there are ways to help along with just practicing. I don't like when something is difficult and the fingers start pointing at it being someone else's fault, or THE GAME'S fault. Take it as a challenge, and try to beat it!
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        • Keirik
          MVP
          • Mar 2003
          • 3770

          #79
          Re: Too Many "Pedro Martinez" Type Changeups?

          Originally posted by jcar0725
          Guys I'm not trying to sound like a jerk when I said "just get better at hitting", but I think there is at least some truth in that statement.

          I had a big problem with change-ups in this year's game. I have since made adjustments and now it's not problem, in fact most of it was in my head.

          So, a pitcher in the game has a good change-up, but the pitcher in real MLB doesn't really have a change-up. SO WHAT. This isn't reality. It's a video game.

          Sliders, Camera angles, Guess pitch, etc there are ways to help along with just practicing. I don't like when something is difficult and the fingers start pointing at it being someone else's fault, or THE GAME'S fault. Take it as a challenge, and try to beat it!
          This game is all about realism. Always has and always will be. Even the devs say that. Just saying "so what if pitchers have a pitch that's not in their real arsenal" just seems pointless.
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          • cardinalbird5
            MVP
            • Jul 2006
            • 2814

            #80
            Re: Too Many "Pedro Martinez" Type Changeups?

            Originally posted by jcar0725
            Guys I'm not trying to sound like a jerk when I said "just get better at hitting", but I think there is at least some truth in that statement.

            I had a big problem with change-ups in this year's game. I have since made adjustments and now it's not problem, in fact most of it was in my head.

            So, a pitcher in the game has a good change-up, but the pitcher in real MLB doesn't really have a change-up. SO WHAT. This isn't reality. It's a video game.

            Sliders, Camera angles, Guess pitch, etc there are ways to help along with just practicing. I don't like when something is difficult and the fingers start pointing at it being someone else's fault, or THE GAME'S fault. Take it as a challenge, and try to beat it!
            I have no problem hitting. Thay does not mean I will turn my head for every flaw in the game and pretend the game is perfect. This is something simple to fix and there really is no excuse. I am about realism and this is a sim. The pitch edits should not be this off.

            My problem is with the pitch edits. I can hit changeups fine like I can hit just about any pitch.

            To everyone saying "get better" answer this for me. If this game gave Colby Lewis, Mark Buerhle or Collmenter a 101 mph fastball would everyone be okay with that? If you complain then obviously its because you cannot hit the heat and would have nothing to do with their pitch edits being way off, right?

            This is a simulation and I want to experience a realistic MLB experience.
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            • jcar0725
              "ADAPT OR DIE"
              • Aug 2010
              • 3818

              #81
              Re: Too Many "Pedro Martinez" Type Changeups?

              Well, then maybe I'm wrong. I just don't find it that big of a deal, but maybe that's my bad.
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              • Keirik
                MVP
                • Mar 2003
                • 3770

                #82
                Re: Too Many "Pedro Martinez" Type Changeups?

                Originally posted by jcar0725
                Well, then maybe I'm wrong. I just don't find it that big of a deal, but maybe that's my bad.
                Everyone is different, just this game revolves around realism, whether its from the likeness of the player to the gameplay, so that makes this one part of the game seem sort of....off.
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                • orion523
                  All Star
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 6709

                  #83
                  Re: Too Many "Pedro Martinez" Type Changeups?

                  Originally posted by HozAndMoose
                  I agree. But it wont matter. If they change it everyone will just use players that still have it. There will always be BS cheese in online sports games. Especially ultimate team modes.
                  And that was my exact point.

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                  • orion523
                    All Star
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 6709

                    #84
                    Re: Too Many "Pedro Martinez" Type Changeups?

                    Originally posted by cardinalbird7
                    I have no problem hitting. Thay does not mean I will turn my head for every flaw in the game and pretend the game is perfect. This is something simple to fix and there really is no excuse. I am about realism and this is a sim. The pitch edits should not be this off.

                    My problem is with the pitch edits. I can hit changeups fine like I can hit just about any pitch.

                    To everyone saying "get better" answer this for me. If this game gave Colby Lewis, Mark Buerhle or Collmenter a 101 mph fastball would everyone be okay with that? If you complain then obviously its because you cannot hit the heat and would have nothing to do with their pitch edits being way off, right?

                    This is a simulation and I want to experience a realistic MLB experience.
                    I agree with you here, there's really no reason in this day and age with all of the information available for a baseball "sim" to not have most if not all pitcher's repertoires spot on. My comment about online had less to do about this issue and more about the other problems online sports gamers run into which in the grand scheme of things are way more serious, and problem causing.

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                    • gjhnn
                      Just started!
                      • May 2015
                      • 4

                      #85
                      Re: Too Many "Pedro Martinez" Type Changeups?

                      I play on All Star, zone pci off button hitting. I almost always only use x to hit as i tuned tje sliders for more power since i personally prefer a one button type of batting.

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                      • jyoung
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 11132

                        #86
                        Re: Too Many "Pedro Martinez" Type Changeups?

                        Originally posted by RandyBass
                        Custom hitting cameras help tremendously...
                        ...but they still cannot be used in any online mode.

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                        • joshjays44
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 66

                          #87
                          Re: Too Many "Pedro Martinez" Type Changeups?

                          I think Sony should make 2 versions of this game for 2016. Causal/amateur and Simulation, with all the goody stuff like Stride analog. Then we'll all be happy

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                          • hinjgb
                            Banned
                            • May 2015
                            • 4

                            #88
                            Re: Too Many "Pedro Martinez" Type Changeups?

                            Not that this would be a solution, just a curious suggestion I suppose but would manual catching improve this at all?

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                            • Keirik
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 3770

                              #89
                              Re: Too Many "Pedro Martinez" Type Changeups?

                              Originally posted by hinjgb
                              Not that this would be a solution, just a curious suggestion I suppose but would manual catching improve this at all?
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                              • Madden's Jowels
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 1249

                                #90
                                Re: Too Many "Pedro Martinez" Type Changeups?

                                Originally posted by Keirik
                                ????????????
                                It's a bot that reposts things for some reason I don't understand.

                                That was a post from the other thread about too many outfield errors

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