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  • ManiacMatt1782
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    • Jul 2006
    • 3982

    #31
    Re: Bunts are such a glaring problem compared to everything else

    The biggest problem is having to actually play in or bunt defense for it. Playing 3b cover drag does not leave the 3b in a good enough position to make a play, making a drag bunt down the 3rd base line pretty exploitable.
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    • JLoco11
      Rookie
      • Jun 2013
      • 236

      #32
      Re: Bunts are such a glaring problem compared to everything else

      I just had the CPU drop 2 straight squeeze bunts on me in a 1 run game.

      First one they got me... wasn't paying attention, but they laid the bunt down perfectly.

      Second I moved my infield in for a bunt, threw a pitch over the batters head and the game STILL laid down a bunt (ball was 5 feet over the bat).

      Pitcher picked up the ball and positioned himself to throw to first, instead of home. I had a chance at the home runner, but the mechanics wanted me to go to first and when I threw home, it took an extra 2 seconds for him to turn around.

      Lesson learned, pitch out next time.

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      • Bobhead
        Pro
        • Mar 2011
        • 4926

        #33
        Re: Bunts are such a glaring problem compared to everything else

        Originally posted by rjackson
        Great ideas. Sometimes I get too automatic when playing and need to remember the situations as the CPU does take advantage of me sometimes.

        If I recall correctly, Brett Butler hit .498 in his career on drag bunts or bunts for hits. However, I definitely agree that players with poor bunting ratings don't have a difficult enough time laying down a good bunt. Been this way for a number of years. Looks like the MLB success rate is something like 62-66% over the past few years.

        http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...-batting.shtml
        Right, and that 66% stat applies to bunting for a sacrifice. It seems in The SHow, that anyone can bunt, and get on base, about 66% of the time.

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        • CujoMatty
          Member of Rush Nation
          • Oct 2007
          • 5444

          #34
          Re: Bunts are such a glaring problem compared to everything else

          It's definetly not good I'm just thankful I play in the AL so it's toned down a bit.

          Had a game a couple days ago against Atlanta 14th inning young Jr gets a bunt single on the first pitch. Whoever was next goes to sacrifice bunt. Perfectly down the 3rd baseline 1st pitch out of the zone. Gets a single. Next guy sacrifice bunt. 1st pitch low curveball outside perfectly down 3rd baseline. Gets a single. Freeman then hits a grandslam on a change up outside and low. First pitch and he pulled it as well. I rage quit lol luckily that doesn't happen very often.

          Just now on my closer in RTTS I had saved like 15 or 16 games in a row and I had a feeling I was due for some shenanigans. I get called in 1 run game. Let me add here that my guy throws 100 mph fastballs.
          1st batter. First pitch at his chest 100 mph fastball perfect bunt 3rd base line. Base hit.
          2nd batter. First pitch above his chest out of the strike zone 100 mph hoping to make him pop it up because I had a feeling what I was in for. Perfect bunt down the 1st baseline catcher doesn't even throw it. Base hit.
          3rd batter. Intentionally miss the strike zone by a mile with a slider. Doesn't square up. Sweet. 2nd pitch 98 mph fastball up bunts perfectly down the 3rd base line. And my third baseman does the animation where he goes to bare hand it but comes up empty. Loaded bases no outs.
          4th batter and I swear to god this is true. 99 mph fastball in the strike zone high and away my catcher just misses it hits him in the shoulder trickles 2 feet away he picks it up and watches the guy on third score. Doesn't move. I proceed to go nuclear with eff bombs and uh ya. Then to add insult to injury the wife wakes up and says jeez it's just a game..............rage quit.

          I've played I dunno probably 60 franchise games and alot of RTTS and these are the only 2 really overt instances where I genuinely felt jobbed and who knows maybe I could have did something different but no real big deal love the game but in my experiences I agree bunting for singles seems too easy.
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          • Smallville102001
            All Star
            • Mar 2015
            • 6542

            #35
            Re: Bunts are such a glaring problem compared to everything else

            I would say this is about the only gameplay problem left in the game. While that and to many balls hit up the middle and hitting the pitcher lol. But this has always been a problem in the show not so much that I can bunt for a hit all the time but if you want to sac bunt its like a 98% success rate. Like ever bunt in the game goes down. You like never see bunts that go in the air or foul. I also noticed that once in a while when a bunt dose go back to the pitcher or something that a lot of times the CPU wont even throw the ball to second base even when it would be a easy out at second. You like never seen bunts that are double plays or unsuccessfully sac bunts. I guess I am very lucky though because I am see like ever one saying that the CPU tries to squeeze bunt or even suicide squeeze all the time and I have not once ever seen the CPU try that ageist me and I have played ever mlb the show from 08-15. The only time the CPU tries to bunt ageist me is when there is a guy a first to try to get him over to second or when no one is one base. I don't get why I am not having the CPU trying that ageist me when ever one else is but that is a good thing.
            Last edited by Smallville102001; 04-21-2015, 03:46 AM.

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            • takki
              Pro
              • Mar 2010
              • 643

              #36
              Re: Bunts are such a glaring problem compared to everything else

              Yeah, this is definitely the one problem they need to fix, along with the freezing online sometimes if you hit a batter.

              They need to work whatever magic they need to do to make it so that batters without 80+ in bunting have a harder time doing so.

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              • HouseKeepinItReal
                Banned
                • Apr 2012
                • 238

                #37
                Re: Bunts are such a glaring problem compared to everything else

                bunting is so easy in real life it takes no skill. i haven't played organized baseball in over 13 years but i go to the batting cages every so often to work on my eye-hand coordination for hockey and i can easily lay down a bunt from my wrong batting hand . you have to give these athletes more credit. anyone can bunt. imagine how easy it is for people who do this for a living! in addition, your difficulty settings and pitching strategies are very much related to your problem.
                Last edited by HouseKeepinItReal; 04-21-2015, 12:14 PM.

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                • Smallville102001
                  All Star
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 6542

                  #38
                  Re: Bunts are such a glaring problem compared to everything else

                  Originally posted by HouseKeepinItReal
                  bunting is so easy in real life it takes no skill. i haven't played organized baseball in over 13 years but i go to the batting cages every so often to work on my eye-hand coordination for hockey and i can easily lay down a bunt from my wrong batting hand . you have to give these athletes more credit. anyone can bunt. imagine how easy it is for people who do this for a living! in addition, your difficulty settings and pitching strategies are very much related to your problem.


                  I kind of agree but disagree with you on that. I think bunting is like the easiest thing to do in baseball by far and any one should be able to lay down a sac bunt with easy but I would say its not easy to lay down a bunt hit.

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                  • mikeq672
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 1761

                    #39
                    Re: Bunts are such a glaring problem compared to everything else

                    Originally posted by HouseKeepinItReal
                    bunting is so easy in real life it takes no skill. i haven't played organized baseball in over 13 years but i go to the batting cages every so often to work on my eye-hand coordination for hockey and i can easily lay down a bunt from my wrong batting hand . you have to give these athletes more credit. anyone can bunt. imagine how easy it is for people who do this for a living! in addition, your difficulty settings and pitching strategies are very much related to your problem.

                    Do you watch baseball? this is so false its not even funny. Most professional players cant bunt. The sacrifice bunt rate was under 70% in baseball last year, and that is just sacrifices, doesnt include bunting for hits.

                    MLB teams averaged 18 bunt hits per year last year, there were 4 players in MLB last year with double digit bunt hits for the year.

                    In 650 at bats, Dee Gordon led baseball with 20, thats one every 8 games.

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                    • NiteLordz
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 471

                      #40
                      Re: Bunts are such a glaring problem compared to everything else

                      and of those successful sacrifice bunts, a majority of them are pitchers! not your everyday players. especially in the american league, where small ball is not the norm

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                      • Gagnon39
                        Windy City Sports Fan
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 8544

                        #41
                        Re: Bunts are such a glaring problem compared to everything else

                        I have no issues with bunting.
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                        • Smallville102001
                          All Star
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 6542

                          #42
                          Re: Bunts are such a glaring problem compared to everything else

                          Originally posted by mikeq672
                          Do you watch baseball? this is so false its not even funny. Most professional players cant bunt. The sacrifice bunt rate was under 70% in baseball last year, and that is just sacrifices, doesnt include bunting for hits.

                          MLB teams averaged 18 bunt hits per year last year, there were 4 players in MLB last year with double digit bunt hits for the year.

                          In 650 at bats, Dee Gordon led baseball with 20, thats one every 8 games.


                          Those are some interesting stats right there.

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                          • My993C2
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 1588

                            #43
                            Re: Bunts are such a glaring problem compared to everything else

                            Originally posted by Gagnon39
                            I have no issues with bunting.
                            Are you a Quick Counts player? Quick Count games will definitely cut down on the in-game bunting opportunities especially the infamous "suicide squeeze" attempts which from what I have witnessed so far happens usually on 0-0, 1-0 or 0-1 counts when a base runner is on 3rd and the CPU needs a run late in the game.

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                            • CaseIH
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 3945

                              #44
                              Re: Bunts are such a glaring problem compared to everything else

                              Originally posted by mikeq672
                              Do you watch baseball? this is so false its not even funny. Most professional players cant bunt. The sacrifice bunt rate was under 70% in baseball last year, and that is just sacrifices, doesnt include bunting for hits.

                              MLB teams averaged 18 bunt hits per year last year, there were 4 players in MLB last year with double digit bunt hits for the year.

                              In 650 at bats, Dee Gordon led baseball with 20, thats one every 8 games.




                              Yeah bunting is far from easy, I never was worth a darn at it, and I was a pitcher,lol. If it was easy then Billy Hamilton would be bunting for base hits all the time with his speed, and guys that get shifted hard on would just be laying down bunts with ease.


                              Big difference between practice bunting with a pitching machine or batting practice, much different and a lot harder to get it done in a game, especially with not knowing whats coming and 95+ heat as well.
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                              • Bobhead
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 4926

                                #45
                                Re: Bunts are such a glaring problem compared to everything else

                                Originally posted by HouseKeepinItReal
                                bunting is so easy in real life it takes no skill. i haven't played organized baseball in over 13 years but i go to the batting cages every so often to work on my eye-hand coordination for hockey and i can easily lay down a bunt from my wrong batting hand . you have to give these athletes more credit. anyone can bunt. imagine how easy it is for people who do this for a living! in addition, your difficulty settings and pitching strategies are very much related to your problem.
                                Yes but there's a huge difference between laying a bunt down (agreeably easy) and laying down a bunt so good it nets you a hit.

                                The latter scenario is the one that occurs far too frequently.

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