BA/Hits drop off cliff simming 8+ seasons into Franchise

[bobloblah1980]

Re: BA/Hits drop off cliff simming 8+ seasons into Franchise

This has been known... or at least I also noticed it at the community week event and left a note about it. It used to be the offense getting inflated, but it's the other way now.

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[fakeusername 2]

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Does anyone know if the OSFM v2 fixes this issue of pitcher domination 8+ years into a franchise??

I was wondering the same thing. If it was fixed with the update, all that may be necessary is to adjust the potential of all the pitchers drafted each year.

[Tweeg]

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To the guys editing pitch velocity -

Are you dropping just the fastball each year, or are the players gaining velocity for each pitch?

[bobloblah1980]

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To the guys editing pitch velocity -

Are you dropping just the fastball each year, or are the players gaining velocity for each pitch?

Me? I say both.. I edit the velocity of each team as I play them 1st time through. I usually just fix the change/fb issues but if the guy has a slider that's stupid like 90+ then I lower it down to around 88ish.. they will go up regardless so it's a never ending thing but it's just to keep it under control. nothing will"fix" it unless the devs do something which is unlikely now

I was wondering the same thing. If it was fixed with the update, all that may be necessary is to adjust the potential of all the pitchers drafted each year.

I believe willards may be your best bet, He has stated he tried to put some progression adjustments in but it still won't solve the issue though

[bobloblah1980]

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A little update here guys. I started a new one once again using Willards rosters and I changed my scouting strategy a bit and I found that if YOU don't scout pitch velocity, the amount of high velocity pitchers in the draft are reduced dramatically! I am 4 years in and I am finding way less 99mph guys now and I also scout basically 1 day for each area of the type (infield, outfield, pitcher) and there aren't nearly as many crazy high potential guys in the draft each year

[sljivo]

Re: BA/Hits drop off cliff simming 8+ seasons into Franchise

A little update here guys. I started a new one once again using Willards rosters and I changed my scouting strategy a bit and I found that if YOU don't scout pitch velocity, the amount of high velocity pitchers in the draft are reduced dramatically! I am 4 years in and I am finding way less 99mph guys now and I also scout basically 1 day for each area of the type (infield, outfield, pitcher) and there aren't nearly as many crazy high potential guys in the draft each year

Please elaborate on exactly what you did with scouting to solve this issue.

[bobloblah1980]

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Please elaborate on exactly what you did with scouting to solve this issue.

Ok so there is a scouting issue that is/was discussed here. and to be honest I didn't even know about because I would only "scout" individual players that were 22 yrs old or younger or 5 years eta or less.

http://http://www.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show/842677-scouting-doesnt-matter.html

So I changed my scouting "scheme" if you will. Now, I discover each position for instance infield- speed/fielding/ west for 1 day then do central the next day and then east the next international. at that point I switched to catcher or outfield so I only discover for a MAX of 12 days for fielders or 8 days for pitchers

For pitchers I only discovered Velocity I believe 1 of the 4 years and when doing my fb/change edits I am not seeing nearly as many 99mph guys as I had been seeing in previous franchises I had been doing

Also Even though Willards rosters is much much better for the SP/CP progression bug but I still had to go through and lower some of the prospects potentials . basically any "B's" I lowered by 5 and "A's" by 10 and it's made way less B & A guys so far.

It still looks like the ERA's and BA's are better but still a little out of whack but at this point there's nothing left to do and it is inherently going to happen no matter what you do

[thawkprime 21]

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Sorry if this has been asked or discussed earlier. But could an issue with pitchers progressing so much also be an issue with not enough good hitters in AA and AAA. If pitchers progress based not only on their potential but also based on performance, then they need to proform worse at the start of thier baseball career to deter rapid progression in talent. If pitchers get hit hard early on their potential may decress by defualt.

If anyone has tested this please let me know.

[bobloblah1980]

Absolutely that is the issue, as discussed earlier its a flip flop from last year where there was a ton of big bats but you could only get pitchers up to around 85 potential i believe

[thawkprime 21]

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so should we not only be dropping pitcher potential and maybe pitch speed but also increasing batter hitting ratings and not nessesarly thier potential.

[bobloblah1980]

Could do. Totally up to you..thr pitch edits is enough for me, thats enough work ..lol

[NDAlum]

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I might just look at it towards the end of each season and adjust accordingly


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[Tweeg]

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I might just look at it towards the end of each season and adjust accordingly


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I think this is the way to go as well. I just simmed to 2022 while editing SP potential -15 for each draft class. League-wide ERA and batting averages look great, but there's a 'realism' problem I don't like.

When the SP potential is nerfed to this degree, you will almost never see any SP good enough to make a rotation until they are about 28 years old. Overall ratings were outstanding, and almost exactly matched the roster that I started with, but you never get any younger players cracking the rotation.

Another thing to look out for is the fringe SP 70-75. They will just hang in that range until they hit their declining age. I plan on manually regressing some of these guys each year depending on their stats. Without doing so, they just kind of clog up the 5th/6th starter spots instead of going away as they tend to in real life.

[elbomberoloco]

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I might just look at it towards the end of each season and adjust accordingly


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how do you adjust them ?

[elbomberoloco]

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After having a couple of franchise's "ruined" by this bug, started a new one last night. I've taken a hybrid approach and changed all pitchers coming in the league. If they were in the first or second round I took off 5-10 just depend on age and current skill (Had an 18yo with skill of 48 and pot of 98, he went to 92, had a 23yo skill 64 and pot of 97, he went down to 88). Both first round picks. My logic was the younger guy will have more years and the other one had pitched in college. The highest I left was a 94 and only one. There was a 99 closer who I dropped to 91. After the second round no one was over 85. I logged them all in a spreadsheet and plan to update. However I sim to the draft and then play every 5th game or so. I'll try and update when possible but might be some time in between.