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  • Marino
    Moderator
    • Jan 2008
    • 18113

    #1

    Okay, we have to talk about it. Changeups.

    How does one hit this pitch? It seems like every game I play, the pitcher falls in love with the changeup, and it is impossible for me to pick up the difference between the changeup and fastball, leading a large number of strikeouts.

    Any tips on hitting this pitch, or is changeups just OP?
  • DallasRocks
    MVP
    • Jan 2005
    • 1625

    #2
    Re: Okay, we have to talk about it. Changeups.

    Originally posted by Marino
    How does one hit this pitch? It seems like every game I play, the pitcher falls in love with the changeup, and it is impossible for me to pick up the difference between the changeup and fastball, leading a large number of strikeouts.

    Any tips on hitting this pitch, or is changeups just OP?
    Patience, I treat pitches like knuckleballs.... If it's low let it go, high let it fly. Easier said then done though as I too strike out a lot on changeups, especially when they have a 94 mph fastball and 79 mph changeup, it's not even fair.
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    • Maverick09
      Rookie
      • Jun 2004
      • 267

      #3
      Re: Okay, we have to talk about it. Changeups.

      Originally posted by Marino
      How does one hit this pitch? It seems like every game I play, the pitcher falls in love with the changeup, and it is impossible for me to pick up the difference between the changeup and fastball, leading a large number of strikeouts.

      Any tips on hitting this pitch, or is changeups just OP?
      I can't hit it either. I find it especially difficult to hit when it's thrown below the strike zone, which makes me hit into a ton of groundballs and double plays; very frustrating. It seems like its going to be a strike, and falls off the table right as it goes over the plate.

      Some pitchers use it as their primary pitch, I can't do anything against DeGrom of the Mets. He practically pitches no-hitters every time I play against him.

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      • QuestGAV
        Rookie
        • Aug 2011
        • 315

        #4
        Re: Okay, we have to talk about it. Changeups.

        Originally posted by Marino
        How does one hit this pitch? It seems like every game I play, the pitcher falls in love with the changeup, and it is impossible for me to pick up the difference between the changeup and fastball, leading a large number of strikeouts.

        Any tips on hitting this pitch, or is changeups just OP?
        The pitchers on SCEA's rosters have ridiculously rated changeups with incredibly inflated differentials between their changeup velocities and their fastball velocities. I went through the roster and found over 150 instances of guys having their changeups significantly slower than in real life. I found two guys whose changeups were faster. Why they chose to do that I don't understand, but I put together a spreadsheet if you'd like to edit the pitchers in your chosen roster for more accurate FB/CHG velocities.

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        • slugga77
          Rookie
          • Feb 2010
          • 281

          #5
          Re: Okay, we have to talk about it. Changeups.

          Originally posted by Marino
          How does one hit this pitch? It seems like every game I play, the pitcher falls in love with the changeup, and it is impossible for me to pick up the difference between the changeup and fastball, leading a large number of strikeouts.

          Any tips on hitting this pitch, or is changeups just OP?
          Always have been a sucker for the low change ups. I always swing too early, no matter the pitch, but, I have been trying to make an adjustment to be able to hit the change up better. . . .

          Try to swing later on all pitches, drive fastballs up the middle, maybe even oppo.

          Therefore when the changeup comes, you will still be early but not too early.\

          Hope this helps

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          • geisterhome
            MVP
            • Sep 2011
            • 2101

            #6
            Re: Okay, we have to talk about it. Changeups.

            Having huge troubles with them too this year, with the offspeed stuff in general I have to say.
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            • Marino
              Moderator
              • Jan 2008
              • 18113

              #7
              Re: Okay, we have to talk about it. Changeups.

              I can pick up other pitchs just fine. But changeups are much worse this year. They look like a fastball coming out (I know) but its impossible to tell the difference until you swing way too early, every time. Thus leading to pitchers like Eddy Butler and Bronson Arroyo becoming strikeout gods.

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              • HimynameisMattyK
                Rookie
                • Jan 2012
                • 44

                #8
                Re: Okay, we have to talk about it. Changeups.

                Originally posted by Marino
                How does one hit this pitch? It seems like every game I play, the pitcher falls in love with the changeup, and it is impossible for me to pick up the difference between the changeup and fastball, leading a large number of strikeouts.

                Any tips on hitting this pitch, or is changeups just OP?
                Well, at least we know the game is realistic lol. The fastball changeup combo is the deadliest if controlled. MLB players will tell you this. With that being said, the changeup is definitely tough to time in this game. It's frustrating when they mix it up well but I always try to sit back and let the ball travel through the zone. Focus only on the fastball changeup regardless if they have a slider or curve.

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                • Moonripple
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 77

                  #9
                  Re: Okay, we have to talk about it. Changeups.

                  The changeup usually has a little dip out of the pitcher's hand, which helps identify it. Early in the count, I look for a changeup and do my best to react to a fastball. If I'm ahead in the count, our have two strikes, I'm sitting on a fastball. If the pitcher throws a well placed changeup on two strikes, I'm tipping my cap on the way back to the dugout.

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                  • zephyr13
                    X marks the spot
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 458

                    #10
                    Re: Okay, we have to talk about it. Changeups.

                    Just a thought, but an offset camera view might help you notice the change in velocity between the fastball and change up.
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                    • Thomas7
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 232

                      #11
                      Re: Okay, we have to talk about it. Changeups.

                      Yes SCEA intentionally did make the big speed difference in the change-up and fast ball to act like real life. Ramone spoke of this in an interview. Well they made their point. But it is too much. I am waiting for sean jeezy pitch edits. If it did not dip like a curve ball and every pitcher did not fall in love with it, it would be ok. But have you noticed the CPU lay dead for your changed up and it does not break like the cpu.

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                      • RogueHominid
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 10900

                        #12
                        Re: Okay, we have to talk about it. Changeups.

                        There was recently another thread on this topic and I think the gist was "there's nothing to see here."

                        Honestly, my approach is to use Classic Catcher for my camera and lay off stuff that looks thigh high coming in, as it will often break out of the zone. That means I'll take a few low FB, but I lay off a lot of bad sinkers, changes, and breaking balls with this general rule.

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                        • ZoltanZ
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 196

                          #13
                          Re: Okay, we have to talk about it. Changeups.

                          The change up is by far the most difficult pitch to hit and its rather annoying. You can get a fastball and a change up in the same spot, they look exactly the same but the change up is 15+ mph slower and impossible to hold back on. I have gotten to the point where I hit a lot of fastballs oppo but I still cant time up the change up consistently, which i think is ridiculous.

                          In my franchise last night, I played the Cubs and Wood threw 10 change ups in a row at one point. His change up confidence was maxed. I knew it was coming and still couldnt hit it.

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                          • Turbojugend
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 2242

                            #14
                            Re: Okay, we have to talk about it. Changeups.

                            Agreed on the change-up difficulty this year, even when I can connect -- which is rare -- I'm waaay out in front and end up pulling one down the line. I keep thinking I'll eventually get adjusted but it hasn't happened yet.
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                            • volsman
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 450

                              #15
                              Re: Okay, we have to talk about it. Changeups.

                              I haven't do so yet but has anyone tried messing with sliders a bit maybe consistency? Would that make it a little less likely to be thrown in that perfect spot right below the knees?
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