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  • Madden's Jowels
    MVP
    • Mar 2009
    • 1249

    #196
    Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.03 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

    Originally posted by HozAndMoose
    Im pretty sure they still get stamina back on off days. Its just really low.
    They should get the same amount of stamina back on an off-day as they would on a game day when they're just not pitching. That doesn't make any sense.

    And taking 7-8 or more days to get back your full stamina when it usually only takes 4 days during the regular season? Say I'm playing a game on tuesday, on the pitcher select screen my guy who is scheduled to pitch wednesday is usually always back to full already. Suddenly during the postseason everybody recovers at half-speed, the part of the year when the rotation always gets shorter? That's just bad.
    Last edited by Madden's Jowels; 05-16-2015, 06:13 PM.

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    • TheRealC7R
      Rookie
      • Apr 2015
      • 62

      #197
      Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.03 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

      Originally posted by HozAndMoose
      In the playoffs?
      I'm in the ALCS at the moment and I didn't see any issue. I did, however, notice that with the pitcher auto-rotation option enabled, the rotation is not the same as last year where if you won a series in 3 games, i.e, 3 starters, the first game of the next series would list the fourth guy as the starter while the CPU had their ace scheduled to pitch; one would have to manually choose the ace or fiddle with the rotation.

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      • BrianU
        MVP
        • Nov 2008
        • 1565

        #198
        Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.03 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

        On the upside it makes playing with historic rosters better. 1910's stamina ftw!

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        • sacbillsfan
          Rookie
          • Mar 2010
          • 154

          #199
          Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.03 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

          Not fixing the Wrigley issue is amateurish.

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          • countryboy
            Growing pains
            • Sep 2003
            • 52706

            #200
            Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.03 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

            Originally posted by sacbillsfan
            Not fixing the Wrigley issue is amateurish.
            Sometimes the downside to bugs, besides that they exist, is the fact that they cannot be fixed via a patch for any number of reasons (break something else, time consuming, or they just couldn't figure out the issue that was causing it)

            While I can appreciate the fact that, judging from your avatar, you are a Cubs fan and this means you deal with this issue more than those that don't play as the Cubs, I feel confident in saying that if the dev team could've fixed this issue via a patch they would have.

            Also, while its not perfect or maybe even ideal, there is a workaround for the issue, but I honestly don't remember what it is.

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            • ajblithe20
              Pro
              • Feb 2013
              • 845

              #201
              Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.03 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

              Originally posted by HozAndMoose
              Except that still doesnt make sense. The game is supposed to be realistic. 1 team in the last 5 years willingly started more that 4 pitchers in the playoffs. STL, SF and Cincy all did it in 2012. Cueto got hurt in his first start and Cincy had to go with a 5th guy. Same for STL and Jaime Garcia. SF went with 5 because Timmy sucked. That is 3 of 40 teams since 20 teams that used more than 4 starting pitchers.

              And sure it would be fine if after 5 days the pitcher had say 75% of his energy back. But he doesnt. Its not even half at times. Your pitcher would be out of energy by the 3rd or 4th and then you are pitching at a disadvantage.

              Now i havent went and looked at how many inning those guys were pitching for the teams that never used more than 4. But ill damn sure take the time if i have to.

              Yeah I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's just a possible reason they're doing it that way. The screenshots or video I saw showed about 75% stamina for a pitcher with 5 days rest, but I guess it's not like that all the time.

              If pitcher's don't even get half their stamina back after 5 days, then that is more of a problem than I thought


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              • Knight165
                *ll St*r
                • Feb 2003
                • 24964

                #202
                Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.03 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

                How are you guys testing this?

                I've run about a half dozen post seasons now....3 man rotations(by manually skipping the 4th pitcher....wish they would allow 3 man rotations to be set) and I've had good energy replacement with most pitchers going 6/7 innings and being nearly full 5 or 6 days later. Nobody so far I've seen needed 9 days for full recovery.

                I let Balt/Bos go with 4 man rotations for their series and the game 1 SP were full for game 5....Tillman and Lester with 6.0 IP in game 1.

                I simmed Bal/Bos and Minn/LA and manually entered Wash/Ari and N.Y./St. L Harvey went 8.0 IP and was ready full 6 days later. I probably could have pitched him if needed in game 4 or 5.(sweep by Mets)
                Gonzalez pitched 8.0 for Washington...2 days later was 50%.....

                Once I entered the game....I then used the FF opiton(not end game) to sim out the rest of the game....

                I am going to check how adjusting the SP fatigue slider effects this......

                Perhaps they could slightly increase the energy gain per day off....but I guess I could see where they are adding to the "pressure" of playoffs and multiple games pitched late in the year with less days off.

                M.K.
                Knight165
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                • HozAndMoose
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 3614

                  #203
                  Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.03 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

                  Originally posted by Knight165
                  How are you guys testing this?

                  I've run about a half dozen post seasons now....3 man rotations(by manually skipping the 4th pitcher....wish they would allow 3 man rotations to be set) and I've had good energy replacement with most pitchers going 6/7 innings and being nearly full 5 or 6 days later. Nobody so far I've seen needed 9 days for full recovery.

                  I let Balt/Bos go with 4 man rotations for their series and the game 1 SP were full for game 5....Tillman and Lester with 6.0 IP in game 1.

                  I simmed Bal/Bos and Minn/LA and manually entered Wash/Ari and N.Y./St. L Harvey went 8.0 IP and was ready full 6 days later. I probably could have pitched him if needed in game 4 or 5.(sweep by Mets)
                  Gonzalez pitched 8.0 for Washington...2 days later was 50%.....

                  Once I entered the game....I then used the FF opiton(not end game) to sim out the rest of the game....

                  I am going to check how adjusting the SP fatigue slider effects this......

                  Perhaps they could slightly increase the energy gain per day off....but I guess I could see where they are adding to the "pressure" of playoffs and multiple games pitched late in the year with less days off.

                  M.K.
                  Knight165
                  When i tested i play the first game of the division series then start the rest of the games and FF till the end. I have noticed that when i FF or just sim the players arent losing the same amount of stamina as when i pitch every inning. Pitcher A and B have 90 stamina. I pitch with Pitcher A for 7 innings and he has say 20% energy left. If i FF with Pitcher B and he goes 7 innings he may have 50%+ energy left. Need to check it out a little more though.

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                  • thaSLAB
                    [Player 1]
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 4495

                    #204
                    Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.03 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

                    Originally posted by HozAndMoose
                    When i tested i play the first game of the division series then start the rest of the games and FF till the end. I have noticed that when i FF or just sim the players arent losing the same amount of stamina as when i pitch every inning. Pitcher A and B have 90 stamina. I pitch with Pitcher A for 7 innings and he has say 20% energy left. If i FF with Pitcher B and he goes 7 innings he may have 50%+ energy left. Need to check it out a little more though.
                    Interesting. Which pitching interface are you using? I wonder if that has something to do with it too... I'm in 2018 (11 games in) of my franchise, but I didn't reach the playoffs in 2017 (I carried over to MLB 15 in late-September of 2017), so I haven't experienced the rotation changes yet in this year's game.

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                    • HozAndMoose
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 3614

                      #205
                      Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.03 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

                      Originally posted by thaSLAB
                      Interesting. Which pitching interface are you using? I wonder if that has something to do with it too... I'm in 2018 (11 games in) of my franchise, but I didn't reach the playoffs in 2017 (I carried over to MLB 15 in late-September of 2017), so I haven't experienced the rotation changes yet in this year's game.

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                      Im using classic.

                      Just started up another test and simmed the first game of the NLDS LAD vs MIA. Kershaw goes 9 innings and has 50%+ stamina left. Cant say for sure how many pitches he threw but it had to be enough that his energy shouldnt be that high.

                      Spoiler


                      Starting the game and using FF. Kershaw at 131 pitches with likes 33% energy left.

                      Spoiler


                      So from what i can tell. If you sim from the calender screen. Or enter game and FF then the pitcher doesnt lose as much energy as playing the game so they can recover for their next start. But if you play they cant recover in time. And its happening every time for me.
                      Last edited by HozAndMoose; 05-16-2015, 08:05 PM.

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                      • MLB14
                        Pro
                        • May 2014
                        • 636

                        #206
                        Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.03 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

                        Does anyone think they'll release another patch? Was this one the third patch?
                        Do it. (Release The Show for PC)

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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52706

                          #207
                          Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.03 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

                          Originally posted by MLB14
                          Does anyone think they'll release another patch? Was this one the third patch?
                          Yes, this was the third patch.

                          And in my opinion, I don't think we will see another patch. I think they will now shift focus to next year's version of the game.
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                          • MLB14
                            Pro
                            • May 2014
                            • 636

                            #208
                            Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.03 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

                            Originally posted by countryboy
                            Yes, this was the third patch.

                            And in my opinion, I don't think we will see another patch. I think they will now shift focus to next year's version of the game.
                            I just really hope they're aware of the player lock issue for next year.
                            Do it. (Release The Show for PC)

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                            • Heroesandvillains
                              MVP
                              • May 2009
                              • 5974

                              #209
                              Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.03 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

                              Originally posted by HozAndMoose
                              Im using classic.

                              Just started up another test and simmed the first game of the NLDS LAD vs MIA. Kershaw goes 9 innings and has 50%+ stamina left. Cant say for sure how many pitches he threw but it had to be enough that his energy shouldnt be that high.

                              Spoiler


                              Starting the game and using FF. Kershaw at 131 pitches with likes 33% energy left.

                              Spoiler


                              So from what i can tell. If you sim from the calender screen. Or enter game and FF then the pitcher doesnt lose as much energy as playing the game so they can recover for their next start. But if you play they cant recover in time. And its happening every time for me.
                              How many off days between starts here?

                              Yeah, even though you threw 133 pitches, if he had 4+ days rest, I would definitely agree with you guys that this puts the human player at a huge disadvantage to the CPU and I'd consider it a bug too.

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                              • HozAndMoose
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 3614

                                #210
                                Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.03 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

                                Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
                                How many off days between starts here?

                                Yeah, even though you threw 133 pitches, if he had 4+ days rest, I would definitely agree with you guys that this puts the human player at a huge disadvantage to the CPU and I'd consider it a bug too.
                                I didnt check after the 133 pitch game. But the one where i simmed from the calender screen and he went the full 9 he pitched the 4th game. So game 1 played, game 2 rest, off day. game 3 rest. game 4 play.

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