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  • HozAndMoose
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    • Mar 2013
    • 3614

    #16
    Re: Official "Wonky Logic" Thread

    Originally posted by ryanmc564
    I just had this happen to me tonight, where my out fielder got caught in a animation resulting in while I was still pressing forward to reach the ball. I never upload a video before so if this doesn't work I apologize.

    http:// https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vKbri_lVaFU

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    • ryanmc564
      Pro
      • Jan 2014
      • 765

      #17
      Re: Official "Wonky Logic" Thread

      Originally posted by HozAndMoose


      Thanks hozandmoose for the link fix!!

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      • Padgoi
        Banned
        • Oct 2008
        • 1873

        #18
        Re: Official "Wonky Logic" Thread

        Originally posted by tcorb95
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70qNwMF_D2Y


        This is just one instance the cpu does not score like this all the time but plays similar to ones in the video pile up and result in runs for the cpu. Moustakas could have easily fielded that bunt with his glove the runner was not even halfway down the line by the time he reached for it. I have no words for that "passed ball." On Heyward's hit the cpu base runner is rounding 3rd by the time I release the ball at short. He was halfway to the dugout by the time I got the ball home even if Hosmer had thrown home quickly he still would have been safe. Regardless, the passed ball the play before allowed that play to happen. If that guy stays at first and Escobar makes that play I had an easy out at second. I think what would be a really nice addition to this game would be a cpu aggressiveness slider, the cpu doesn't always need to be going 100%.
        These are more so the things I'm talking about and there's nothing you can do to combat that. A passed ball on a well-placed strike right on the outside corner that the catcher just doesn't catch. This happens in real baseball how often? When the catcher calls for a pitch, gets that pitch, the pitch is a well-placed strike and it hits off his facemask and caroms to the backstop? And before someone posts some random video showing it happen, keep in mind that things of this nature happen routinely on hall of fame level. And then the play following the passed ball where the CPU for some reason scores from second on an infield single which, again, happens once a year if that in real baseball? And certainly not by Eric Hosmer. It's things like this that I'm talking about where there's literally nothing you can do. The passed ball is an event (like we were discussing earlier) that clearly triggers the next event, being the ridiculous RBI infield single. The problem is there's literally NOTHING you can do about the passed ball trigger event.

        Originally posted by ryanmc564
        I just had this happen to me tonight, where my out fielder got caught in a animation resulting in aerror while I was still pressing forward to reach the ball. I never upload a video before so if this doesn't work I apologize.

        http:// https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vKbri_lVaFU
        1. That play was your fault, no offense. You didn't get to the spot the ball was landing. The game began an animation to try and catch the ball, but you were too far away, resulting in the error. The animation isn't your fault, it's just a very poor animation that SCEA hasn't accepted as being a problem. But the fact remains that you were in the wrong spot to catch the ball and it's still just a video game, so issues like this will occur from time to time.
        Last edited by Padgoi; 06-05-2015, 03:51 PM.

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        • ryanmc564
          Pro
          • Jan 2014
          • 765

          #19
          Re: Official "Wonky Logic" Thread

          Originally posted by P.A.D.

          1. That animation was your fault, no offense. You didn't get to the spot the ball was landing. The game began an animation to try and catch the ball, but you were too far away, resulting in the error. The animation isn't your fault, it's just a very poor animation that SCEA hasn't accepted as being a problem. But the fact remains that you were in the wrong spot to catch the ball and it's still just a video game, so issues like this will occur from time to time.


          P.A.D. I appreciate your input on the matter, however that animation triggered while I was still pressing right on the thumb stick to get to the ball, the outfielder had plenty of time to get to the ball, he just stop and went into the animation on its own. I would consider that a wonky error, since the fielder ran and got into that spot he started an animation on its own while I was still inputting a command. if anything the outfielder should of over ran the ball.


          edit: probably should of mention too, that I had edited bourjos fielding and speed set to a 95 and have my outfield error slider set to 2, I have no problem with the animation itself, its actually a good looking animation imo, seen plenty of ball players do that little move when they don't get to the ball. just this particular situation I don't think that animation should have triggered.
          Last edited by ryanmc564; 06-05-2015, 03:06 PM.

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          • 55
            Banned
            • Mar 2006
            • 20857

            #20
            Re: Official "Wonky Logic" Thread

            Originally posted by P.A.D.
            1. That animation was your fault

            The animation isn't your fault


            Seriously though, the fielding animations in this game are the epitome of "wonky logic" if you ask me. I hate, hate, hate manual fielding in this game. The CPU has so much of an advantage in that department that it is ridiculous.

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            • Padgoi
              Banned
              • Oct 2008
              • 1873

              #21
              Re: Official "Wonky Logic" Thread

              Originally posted by 55


              Seriously though, the fielding animations in this game are the epitome of "wonky logic" if you ask me. I hate, hate, hate manual fielding in this game. The CPU has so much of an advantage in that department that it is ridiculous.
              Oops, I meant the error was his fault, but not the actual animation. But after his explanation, I'm not so sure anymore.

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              • dubplate
                MVP
                • Dec 2002
                • 3784

                #22
                Re: Official "Wonky Logic" Thread

                Originally posted by 55


                Seriously though, the fielding animations in this game are the epitome of "wonky logic" if you ask me. I hate, hate, hate manual fielding in this game. The CPU has so much of an advantage in that department that it is ridiculous.
                It can be really frustrating at times. I understand and appreciate that they are trying to make it more realistic and more exciting as it was automatic in years past to field fly balls, but I have seen some good fielders miss some easy balls because of wonky animations and it just pisses me off sometimes and ruin an otherwise fun game you are having. Especially when it costs you a run or possibly the game.

                I have no problems when odd things happen to bad players as it should but it needs to be dialed back a bit or the whole system reworked for next year.

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                • Caucasianator
                  Rookie
                  • May 2015
                  • 46

                  #23
                  Re: Official "Wonky Logic" Thread

                  So I had a hard time believing in "Wonky Logic" until today. Maybe this was just the horrible game, being horrible for me at the wrong moments. I was playing a Diamond Dynasty game, pretty clean until about the 6th inning. I was already up 3-0 with 7 hits, and Cole Hamels was pitching great, think he had only allowed 3 or 4 hits. However, Giancarlo Stanton came up (dude was hitting .199 with him, so I hardly showed him respect.) But Giancarlo hit a chopper out of play but the guy could still run with Giancarlo. Batboy seriously picked up the ball, went to sit down and Giancarlo got an Inside the Parker.

                  So it became 3-1, but the guy wasn't that great so I wasn't worried. Wish I saved the video but I was shocked, and therefore didn't think about it. Nonetheless, can't remember who, but someone got a nice single off of Hamels right after that. Wasn't worried, was probably me. But the next AB, someone, again can't remember who, hit a pop up into shallow right field. Michael Cuddyer caught it, threw it to second and the runner on first was able to run back, and tag up because my guy wouldn't move, or throw it anywhere.

                  Thank god he hadn't figured it out and continued running, or I think that would've been another run. But again, can't remember who, hit a HR right off Hamels on the next AB. Long story short, game was 3-3 until the bottom 10th, I was on third (Cuddyer) with two outs and Billy Butler was up. Dude threw a wild pitch and I said "**** it" and went home with Cuddyer. Cuddyer isn't that fast, and actually wasn't for the play. But when his pitcher (who was covering home) caught it, he had his pitcher immediately dive, and therefore miss me.

                  I would've been so pissed if he pulled out the W.
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                  • thaSLAB
                    [Player 1]
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 4495

                    #24
                    Re: Official "Wonky Logic" Thread

                    Interesting. This was against a human opponent, correct?

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                    • MythicalGnome
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 271

                      #25
                      Re: Official "Wonky Logic" Thread

                      Originally posted by P.A.D.
                      Here's one (it should be noted, I'm playing on Hall of Fame difficulty, which really shouldn't mean anything except it does):

                      I'm the Yankees, up 6-0 in the fifth inning on the Blue Jays and lighting up Buehrle. Meanwhile, Sabathia is cruising, having given up 2 hits through 4. Top of the 5th, lead-off hitter singles, then another single, then a 3-run homer so it's 6-3. I "managed" to get out of the 5th without any further damage. In the bottom of the 5th, I had a runner on third with 1 out but failed to get him home because I popped out (happens ENTIRELY too often with runners on third and less than 2 outs) and at that point I could smell something going on.

                      Top of the 6th, I bring in Carpenter who had started warming up in the previous half inning. I also had Wilson ready in case I got into trouble. Carpenter walks the first batter on a 3-2 pitch that I aimed right down the middle, but it ends up outside by at least 6 inches. Next batter, first pitch double into the right centerfield gap, scoring the run and making it 6-4. I do a mound visit to relax my pitcher. First pitch next at bat, guy hits it to the EXACT same location of the previous batter (even though it was an inside fastball to a righty), resulting in an RBI triple and a 6-5 game. That's it for Carpenter, so I bring in Wilson. Next batter hits a sac fly to tie it at 6. One batter later, Dioner Navarro jack and I'm down 7-6. So they score 7 unanswered runs while making 5 outs to take the lead. Expletives were then thrown at the television. I ended up losing 7-6.
                      That sounds terrible. I hope Jordy Cake was not around to see that .

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                      • bellz666
                        Don Mattingly is God
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 1090

                        #26
                        Re: Official "Wonky Logic" Thread

                        Originally posted by P.A.D.
                        I popped out (happens ENTIRELY too often with runners on third and less than 2 outs)
                        Oh how true this is....
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                        • geisterhome
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 2101

                          #27
                          Re: Official "Wonky Logic" Thread

                          I don't believe in boots for the cpu late in games or even a comeback code but still I keep seeing a lot of weird things happening on the field, the corner infielder letting the pass by them with and odd animation, tons of hits ending up right at pitcher or way too many double plays..
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                          • Caucasianator
                            Rookie
                            • May 2015
                            • 46

                            #28
                            Re: Official "Wonky Logic" Thread

                            Originally posted by thaSLAB
                            Interesting. This was against a human opponent, correct?

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                            Me? Yea, was against a human opponent.
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