Why is batting timing so off in MLB 15?

[elbomberoloco]

Re: Why is batting timing so off in MLB 15?

I also find it very frustrating I can not find a mode where the AI will pitch a strike every time. I have maxed out the sliders so that in theory I should be getting strikes and I still can draw a walk. I wish beginner mode was truly beginner because I agree the timing is "off". I understand that every batter swings a little different but I do not think it should affect timing to this extent. Maybe if you increase the difficulty but I just want to have a casual game of baseball sometimes and just be able to hit the ball and see what happens...

[thescottyglasgow]

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Yeah...Im glad you guys see this. I wasnt the greatest hitter in 14 but I was definitely above average and this year im like 30 points below my avg. I love how you square up the ball PERFECTLY location/timing everything and it even says "GOOD"....and the ball just fouls off...lol......Oh San Diego Studios what on earth did you do?

Infield pop ups, choppers, and foul balls constantly on good timing in the zone.

[Artman22]

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Infield pop ups, choppers, and foul balls constantly on good timing in the zone.

A lot of this happens because this game is heavily ratings based which is something I hate.

[canes21]

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A lot of this happens because this game is heavily ratings based which is something I hate.

You can easily cancel this out with difficulty levels and sliders.

[AceFan84]

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Yeah...Im glad you guys see this. I wasnt the greatest hitter in 14 but I was definitely above average and this year im like 30 points below my avg. I love how you square up the ball PERFECTLY location/timing everything and it even says "GOOD"....and the ball just fouls off...lol......Oh San Diego Studios what on earth did you do?

I've REALLY been struggling with this too, I always look at the recap when I am done with an at-bat and sometimes it makes me want to puke. I will get a fastball in the heart of the plate with good timing and I groundout into a DP or fly out to the outfield more often than not. It doesn't matter what player it's with either, Anthong Rizzo and Kris Bryant act the same as Junior Lake it seems, ratings don't seem to mean very much in this. I am playing with the Cubs in my franchise and am having an awful time trying to hit homeruns, I'd guess I average 1 HR every 4 games and this is on VETERAN difficulty!

I am just about ready to give up on this. It's extra frustrating too because I'm happy with the singles/doubles/triples ratio it's just that I CAN NOT HIT HOMERUNS! I am almost 50 games into my season and Bryant and Rizzo are leading me in HR's with 6 each lol.

[bigd51]

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Infield pop ups, choppers, and foul balls constantly on good timing in the zone.

I have the same issue too. Even in the friggin' training sessions throughout RTTS. Bat Control and Plate Discipline are harder than ever because a huge majority of 'Early' and 'Good' timed swings are fouled and deducts points from your score. And probably worst of all, this is happens with pitches I lock on, pitch type AND location. Seriously... how can a professional MLB miss a pitch he's completely locked on to with a 'Good/Early' timed swing?

I'm well aware that not all 'Good' or 'Early' swings are going to result in a base hit. I get that. I also get they too get fouled off. What is apparently wrong is that 'Good' and 'Early' timed swings are fouling, completely missing, or being chopped WAY too often, and I'm the kind that checks the timing of my last swing on every play, even the ones that go for hits, so I know how often they occur.

If I'm missing more of those pitches than I am putting them in play, does timing even matter really? I even turned foul frequency to 0 once and solid hits to 10 as a test and I was still fouling, missing, or chopping 'Good/Early' swings. It's definitely something that needs to be addressed in some way. It's not a coincidence a lot of players from last year suddenly can't hit good pitches anymore...

[jkhunt]

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I thought it was just me. Can't wait back on the change and always late on the fastball. Lowerer pitch speed just makes it too easy to hit singles. I'm batting .306 with terrible Red Sox but near bottom in homeruns. Alternating between HOF and all star settings.

[takki]

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Infield pop ups, choppers, and foul balls constantly on good timing in the zone.

Like in real baseball?

[bigd51]

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Like in real baseball?

If chopping the ball in front of the catcher 20 times a game after good timed swings for an out is like real baseball, then yes.

The problem isn't that it happens. The problem is it happens WAY too frequently. Even on pitches you double lock-on to. I've have that happen a lot, as well.

[bcruise]

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If chopping the ball in front of the catcher 20 times a game after good timed swings for an out is like real baseball, then yes.

The problem isn't that it happens. The problem is it happens WAY too frequently. Even on pitches you double lock-on to. I've have that happen a lot, as well.

20 times? Out of 24-27 outs in a game? If that's actually happening regularly you are playing on the wrong difficulty level. That's not even a slider issue - nothing else will fix something that ridiculous.

[bigd51]

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20 times? Out of 24-27 outs in a game? If that's actually happening regularly you are playing on the wrong difficulty level. That's not even a slider issue - nothing else will fix something that ridiculous.

Yeah, I was just exaggerating. I don't know the exact number, but I'm going to start counting and writing down swing results for a few games and see what I come up with.

BUT... that's not even including plays like these where you are safe:

(Sorry for the crap quality and light shaking. Had to free hand using my phone to get it up here.)

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That happens more than it should, as well. I'm hitting. That pitch was a fastball low and completely in the zone with an early timed swing. And going along with my earlier gripe about the catcher taking too long to get to some of these, do you notice how long it takes for the catcher to start running for the ball? And how the pitcher was basically already at it, but stopped and decided "Ehhh, I better not..." and just stands there? I probably see this happen at least twice a game. No exaggeration.

[Artman22]

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Yeah, I was just exaggerating. I don't know the exact number, but I'm going to start counting and writing down swing results for a few games and see what I come up with.

BUT... that's not even including plays like these where you are safe:

(Sorry for the crap quality and light shaking. Had to free hand using my phone to get it up here.)

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That happens more than it should, as well. I'm hitting. That pitch was a fastball low and completely in the zone with an early timed swing. And going along with my earlier gripe about the catcher taking too long to get to some of these, do you notice how long it takes for the catcher to start running for the ball? And how the pitcher was basically already at it, but stopped and decided "Ehhh, I better not..." and just stands there? I probably see this happen at least twice a game. No exaggeration.

This happens way too often in this game. I keep telling people it's because this game is too ratings based. If you make solid contact how are foul balls going behind you? I don't feel i should have to lower the difficulty for me to have a fair game. I play in leagues and the difficulty is high. Like i said before this is more evident in this years game. The timing is also way off in this years version.

[canes21]

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If you foul a ball straight back in real life, then your timing was spot on? And if you are seeing these things far too often, then yes, you probably do need to lower the difficulty. If you aren't having a fair game on a certain level, then it's because you're not ready for that level. If one certain level was fair for all, then there would be no need for different settings.

If you want to play the game and have the ratings not dictate the results, then drop it down and mess with sliders to balance things out in the fashion you want to see. The game is made to make each player and their ratings play how they should, thus it is going to be heavily dictated by the ratings by default. If you do not want that, then change the settings to override it, or stop buying the wrong game for you. It's as simple as that.

The Show has its crowd, it does not need to nor does it try to be multiple games in on. It aims for baseball simulation that has the ratings dictate the flow of the game out of the box. Sure it has bugs and glitches here and there, but for the most part, it nails baseball down. Now if you don't want a ratings driven game, then like I said, drop down the difficulty to a level that is based more on user input, then tweak the sliders to make it play more like how you would like.

I don't know what else to tell you. I don't play on Hall of Fame because I use timing/directional hitting and on Hall of Fame you can't really do that, or in my experience. So instead of trying to make it work, I dropped the level down to All Star which allows for realistic results on my settings. From there I adjusted sliders and I have a game that mimics baseball down amazingly well.

Don't let your pride ruin your experience. Who cares if you play on HoF, All Star, Veteran, etc. Are you really going to let the name of the setting keep you from getting what you want out of the game?

[KBLover]

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This happens way too often in this game. I keep telling people it's because this game is too ratings based. If you make solid contact how are foul balls going behind you? I don't feel i should have to lower the difficulty for me to have a fair game. I play in leagues and the difficulty is high. Like i said before this is more evident in this years game. The timing is also way off in this years version.

Because the swing plane was just off or the timing wasn't exact.

Fouling a ball back irl means the swing was ALMOST perfect, just off by a fraction (the tiniest differences in timing or swing angle can make the difference between a scorching hit and a foul ball that scares everyone behind the screen behind home plate).

As for the choppers around the plate on good timing, swing timing is just one component. We don't know where the PCI was or where the batter actually swung. Same for a pop up. The problem I have with those is that the PCI is probably way off too often given the ratings of the players. We don't know because it doesn't show, but in MLB13 and 14, the placement of the PCI drove me up a wall a lot of times. No rhyme or reason to it, just all over the place or spot-on.

It is ratings-based, though, at least on Directional, the input I put in also makes a difference as for the type of influence I want to try to put on the ball and of course how well I mesh my timing with it.

[Artman22]

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If you foul a ball straight back in real life, then your timing was spot on? And if you are seeing these things far too often, then yes, you probably do need to lower the difficulty. If you aren't having a fair game on a certain level, then it's because you're not ready for that level. If one certain level was fair for all, then there would be no need for different settings.

If you want to play the game and have the ratings not dictate the results, then drop it down and mess with sliders to balance things out in the fashion you want to see. The game is made to make each player and their ratings play how they should, thus it is going to be heavily dictated by the ratings by default. If you do not want that, then change the settings to override it, or stop buying the wrong game for you. It's as simple as that.

The Show has its crowd, it does not need to nor does it try to be multiple games in on. It aims for baseball simulation that has the ratings dictate the flow of the game out of the box. Sure it has bugs and glitches here and there, but for the most part, it nails baseball down. Now if you don't want a ratings driven game, then like I said, drop down the difficulty to a level that is based more on user input, then tweak the sliders to make it play more like how you would like.

I don't know what else to tell you. I don't play on Hall of Fame because I use timing/directional hitting and on Hall of Fame you can't really do that, or in my experience. So instead of trying to make it work, I dropped the level down to All Star which allows for realistic results on my settings. From there I adjusted sliders and I have a game that mimics baseball down amazingly well.

Don't let your pride ruin your experience. Who cares if you play on HoF, All Star, Veteran, etc. Are you really going to let the name of the setting keep you from getting what you want out of the game?

Did you read anything I said? I clearly stated I play in leagues against other HUMANS. Rating should not be dictating outcomes. So if that's the case I lose to other teams just because they're rated better not because of user skill. And, if I hit a ball perfectly because it's so ratings based the game decides what's a hit and what's an out? Do you hear how foolish that sounds? Basically what you're saying is the game will take control out of my hand. In other words I'm playing an RPG? This argument should not be made when playing against other human opponents. Yes ratings should be involved when it comes to player attributes, but not giving the better team the edge just because they're rated better. Human skill is completely out the window when that happens.


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