Why is batting timing so off in MLB 15?

[KBLover]

Re: Why is batting timing so off in MLB 15?

I was a firm believer that the timing was off in this year's version. I was hitting at AS with the only slider adjustment was to bump up human timing to 6. Even with this adjustment I was late on 95% of fastballs and my splits were probably 10% pull, 30% center, 60% oppo. If it wasn't a fastball then I was usually early.


I could not figure out how to have good timing against the fastball to the point I tuned pitch speed to 4 and that still didn't help. Then I read this thread and saw someone mention watching the ball out of the pitchers hand. I can tell you this makes all the difference for me personally. My timing was so much better I actually tuned the timing/pitch speed to 5. I have even been early on 4FB which may have happened 1% of the time before. I will say since making the adjustment I have struggled to hit a bit but I chalk that up to inexperience with this new approach.

Are there any strategies out there for being early constantly?

As much as people mention that they are late a lot, I'm early just as often, even on fastballs. Seems like I'm on visually, but game and results show I'm early.

I have pitch speed at 10 and I hit better against the Chapman's of the world than guys with 89-91 MPH fastballs.

[bigd51]

Re: Why is batting timing so off in MLB 15?

Are there any strategies out there for being early constantly?

As much as people mention that they are late a lot, I'm early just as often, even on fastballs. Seems like I'm on visually, but game and results show I'm early.

I have pitch speed at 10 and I hit better against the Chapman's of the world than guys with 89-91 MPH fastballs.

What are the results of the play? Like are you getting hits when you're early or are you whiffing at them? And what are your timing and solid hits sliders set to? If you're whiffing, it could have something to do with the PCI position. Depends on how Directional hitting works, if that's what you're using. I know with batting on Pure Analog and Timing, the PCI will move at random in the zone without your input. You can tell because the swing timing indicator will be shown in different areas of the zone, not just the middle, signifying your PCI is being moved around automatically by the CPU at random. I'm still unclear of the exact details how Directional hitting works, though, so the PCI might not have a factor in that.

[KBLover]

Re: Why is batting timing so off in MLB 15?

What are the results of the play? Like are you getting hits when you're early or are you whiffing at them? And what are your timing and solid hits sliders set to? If you're whiffing, it could have something to do with the PCI position. Depends on how Directional hitting works, if that's what you're using. I know with batting on Pure Analog and Timing, the PCI will move at random in the zone without your input. You can tell because the swing timing indicator will be shown in different areas of the zone, not just the middle, signifying your PCI is being moved around automatically by the CPU at random. I'm still unclear of the exact details how Directional hitting works, though, so the PCI might not have a factor in that.

Yeah, I'm on Directional.

I'm trying with my Timing sliders on 10 - still happening. Sometimes it's K's but a lot of times it's just rolling over on stuff, even if it's in a terrible spot (for the pitcher).

It reminds me of MLB13 all over again. I had this issue in that game too. MLB14 where ever the timing window was just fit me fine.

I really wish we'd get a timing window slider where we can move where the timing window "sits". I don't think I need it wider, per se, but I think I need it to be more forward.

I would try a lower skill level, but I'm on All-Star and going to Veteran brings up the whole pounding the zone too much from CPU pitchers.

Good point about the PCI, though. Hard (impossible?) to tell where it is now since it doesn't show up on the feedback (WHY?!)

There's a little thing. Bring back the PCI location on the feedback when using a non-controlled PCI interface (Timing, Directional, etc)

[bigd51]

Re: Why is batting timing so off in MLB 15?

Yeah, I'm on Directional.

I'm trying with my Timing sliders on 10 - still happening. Sometimes it's K's but a lot of times it's just rolling over on stuff, even if it's in a terrible spot (for the pitcher).

It reminds me of MLB13 all over again. I had this issue in that game too. MLB14 where ever the timing window was just fit me fine.

I really wish we'd get a timing window slider where we can move where the timing window "sits". I don't think I need it wider, per se, but I think I need it to be more forward.

I would try a lower skill level, but I'm on All-Star and going to Veteran brings up the whole pounding the zone too much from CPU pitchers.

Well, I'll say this. I changed my batting interface from Directional to Pure Analog for the first time since buying this game, and while you don't have the benefit of Directional hitting, I have noticed early on with using Pure Analog that my timing is correlating better with the type of contact I'm putting on the ball. I'm making slightly better contact on 'early/good' timed swings as opposed to whiffs and weak choppers.

Try switching to Pure Analog and test it on your end to see if it makes a difference, because the reasons people are having trouble making contact on good timed swings could have something to do with Directional itself and/or the PCI for Directional hitting. I'd still need more info on how the PCI in Directional actually works, though.

[cvnvg]

Re: Why is batting timing so off in MLB 15?

I was having the same issues with timing and squaring up pitches using Directional, so I knocked the pitch speed slider down a tick while increasing the solid contact slider 1 tick. Seems to be helping.

[Artman22]

Re: Why is batting timing so off in MLB 15?

I was having the same issues with timing and squaring up pitches using Directional, so I knocked the pitch speed slider down a tick while increasing the solid contact slider 1 tick. Seems to be helping.

Yea once you lower the pitch speed it helps, but out the box and when playing online in leagues or online ranked matches you're going to always have this problem. I never had this issue before until this years game.

[thescottyglasgow]

Re: Why is batting timing so off in MLB 15?

Yea once you lower the pitch speed it helps, but out the box and when playing online in leagues or online ranked matches you're going to always have this problem. I never had this issue before until this years game.

Yeah this is my problem I play online and DD sometimes.

[bobloblah1980]

Re: Why is batting timing so off in MLB 15?

Well, I'll say this. I changed my batting interface from Directional to Pure Analog for the first time since buying this game, and while you don't have the benefit of Directional hitting, I have noticed early on with using Pure Analog that my timing is correlating better with the type of contact I'm putting on the ball. I'm making slightly better contact on 'early/good' timed swings as opposed to whiffs and weak choppers.

Try switching to Pure Analog and test it on your end to see if it makes a difference, because the reasons people are having trouble making contact on good timed swings could have something to do with Directional itself and/or the PCI for Directional hitting. I'd still need more info on how the PCI in Directional actually works, though.

That's funny. I went the other way. I was having trouble timing it up with pure analog and I switched to directional, also partly because there is no true contact swing with Pure analog only the push the thumbstick in the direction of the ball ability. So I was striking out a lot on stuff I would have normally fouled off in tough 2 strike situations

[bigd51]

Re: Why is batting timing so off in MLB 15?

That's funny. I went the other way. I was having trouble timing it up with pure analog and I switched to directional, also partly because there is no true contact swing with Pure analog only the push the thumbstick in the direction of the ball ability. So I was striking out a lot on stuff I would have normally fouled off in tough 2 strike situations

Hmmm. I'll have to go back and check that. I've been on Pure Analog for a couple of days now, and it seemed to me that Pure Analog was the same as Directional in regards to swinging (up for normal, side for contact, down-up for power). I just assumed that though, with the new controls for Directional.

I guess I just don't know for sure how Directional works. When you 'aim' at an area of the zone with the left stick, are you moving an invisible PCI like you do with Zone hitting? Or is the PCI randomly moved by the computer like it is when PCI is turned off with Timing? What if you leave the left stick alone and don't aim with the arrows in the zone? Is the PCI still there, albeit invisible, and sitting in the middle of the zone? I think the whole PCI thing is just throwing me off...

I guess one thing I like more about Pure Analog so far is the feedback of the PCI location it gives you after each swing. With Directional, you only get the feedback for swing timing, but not location of the PCI, so at least I'll know why I hit the ball a certain way.

[bobloblah1980]

I am.with you on the pci feedback for analog..I still don't understand why they removed it from directional anyways..but yeah there is a great thread on here by Cardinal7 about how pure analog actually works it includes a video..great info on it you should check it out

[bigd51]

Re: Why is batting timing so off in MLB 15?

I am.with you on the pci feedback for analog..I still don't understand why they removed it from directional anyways..but yeah there is a great thread on here by Cardinal7 about how pure analog actually works it includes a video..great info on it you should check it out

Good deal. I'll make sure I look for that sometime. Thanks bud.

[berenjena]

Re: Why is batting timing so off in MLB 15?

Maybe you're just not as good as you think. Lack of reaction or lost your edge.

[Artman22]

Re: Why is batting timing so off in MLB 15?

Maybe you're just not as good as you think. Lack of reaction or lost your edge.

Yea it just happened from 1 year to the next, but when you put MLB 14 back in the console the timing skills comeback lol...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Sora_529]

Re: Why is batting timing so off in MLB 15?

Until very recently I thought hitting was impossible this year. I was striking out 12-15 times per game on Veteran against 69 overall nobodies, when in the past I've always played on All-Star. Just a couple of weeks ago I found out that they slightly changed the Pure Analog method this year. I knew the game timed the stride for you, but I would still be pulling down on the right analog stick as the pitch came, just as a timing mechanism for myself. Well, turns out that this year, down then up on the stick is a power swing, so I was striking out at an unbelievable rate because I was literally power swinging at every single pitch. D'oh

[stephens123]

Re: Why is batting timing so off in MLB 15?

14 is definitely different than 15...Im sure of it. When I play online...EVERYTHING is late...never was the case last year. I know it has something to do with the syncing up the ball to the bat this year...unlike previous years. What a shame.