What is WAR?

[AC]

Re: What is WAR?

I'm more than happy to help explain other advanced stats (really not that advanced honestly), ITT or through PM

[BrianU]

Re: What is WAR?

http://www.fangraphs.com/library/

This has most of the advanced stats and explanations for them. Just put your mouse over the Offense Defense etc tabs on top.

[Jeffrey Smith]

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WAR is the reason Jason Heyward was offered over 200 millions by a couple of teams. The GMs of this generation view the game different than those of 1970 due to sabermetrics. Heyward settled for 184M, after just hitting 13 homers and 60 rbis. But his defense is so great that makes him a top 8 WAR guy. I by no means puts much emphasis on WAR but as this new age baseball era continues then the Show must also integrated into the game.


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Settled...bless his heart...

[kehlis]

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I'm more than happy to help explain other advanced stats (really not that advanced honestly), ITT or through PM

Not in this thread please.

[dalger21]

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I would be interested to see how the dev team implemented WAR into '16 (if it is indeed in) considering WAR takes into account defense.

[AC]

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I would be interested to see how the dev team implemented WAR into '16 (if it is indeed in) considering WAR takes into account defense.

I wish we got more defensive stats in the show in general, but I assume this would be done using a proxy of assists, putouts and errors.

[MLB Bob]

Re: What is WAR?

WAR is the reason Jason Heyward was offered over 200 millions by a couple of teams. The GMs of this generation view the game different than those of 1970 due to sabermetrics. Heyward settled for 184M, after just hitting 13 homers and 60 rbis. But his defense is so great that makes him a top 8 WAR guy. I by no means puts much emphasis on WAR but as this new age baseball era continues then the Show must also integrated into the game.


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pretty sure a lot more went into his payday than his defense. Looking at a few basic stats he was pretty good offensively. And Im glad GM's stopped using RBI as a stat to pay players.

WAR is a context stat. Since you compare players using a similar method you can get a broad view of comparison. Problem comes when people think its exact and definitive. I prefer a few stats that are mostly rate stats.

[AC]

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^That's a good point. People need to consider the error bars. That's the thing with an MVP race. If you say, "Clayton Kershaw contributed 8.17 WAR to a team and Bryce Harper 10.25, thus, we can assume the difference between the two players' contributions was in the neighborhood of two wins, and Harper is probably the MVP" (numbers off my head) that's a reasonable statement.

But if it comes down to "Josh Donaldson had 9.4 WAR and Mike Trout had 9.1 WAR, thus Josh Donaldson is more deserving of the AL MVP," that's pretty ridiculous. WAR doesn't have error bars down to 0.3 wins of accuracy. Like I can personally tell you from what I know that not even UZR has error bars down to 3 runs of accuracy for most players lol.

WAR is by far and away the best framework available right now in my mostly irrelevant opinion, but there's so much that can still be done with it. It doesn't contextualize, and should it? Should we be looking at stats like WPA to provide context, or should we not credit guys who are in clutch situations more because they're on more average teams (which might reflect on them)? How accurate are the park factors that go into WAR when you consider each player's batted ball profile is unique?

Still room for improvement.

[kehlis]

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Thanks.

Despite my requests to leave this about the game and not real life we've decided to do the opposite.

Original question was answered. Appreciate the cooperation shared by the few who chose to do so.