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  • tnixen
    MVP
    • Oct 2011
    • 3184

    #1

    What is WAR?

    Can someone explain to me what WAR is and why so many want in in MLB The Show?

    Thanks
    Last edited by tnixen; 02-12-2016, 05:52 PM.
  • dubplate
    MVP
    • Dec 2002
    • 3781

    #2
    Re: What is WAR?

    Originally posted by tnixen
    Can someone explain to what WAR is and why so many want in in MLB The Show?

    Thanks

    Wins Above Replacement (WAR) is an attempt by the sabermetric baseball community to summarize a player’s total contributions to their team in one statistic. You should always use more than one metric at a time when evaluating players, but WAR is all-inclusive and provides a useful reference point for comparing players. WAR offers an estimate to answer the question, “If this player got injured and their team had to replace them with a freely available minor leaguer or a AAAA player from their bench, how much value would the team be losing?” This value is expressed in a wins format, so we could say that Player X is worth +6.3 wins to their team while Player Y is only worth +3.5 wins, which means it is highly likely that Player X has been more valuable than Player Y.

    WAR is not meant to be a perfectly precise indicator of a player’s contribution, but rather an estimate of their value to date. Given the imperfections of some of the available data and the assumptions made to calculate other components, WAR works best as an approximation. A 6 WAR player might be worth between 5.0 and 7.0 WAR, but it is pretty safe to say they are at least an All-Star level player and potentially an MVP.

    While WAR is not as complicated as some might think, it does require a good bit of information to calculate and understand. Below you can find general information about WAR and links to specific information about position players and pitchers, as WAR is obviously calculated differently for each.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/library/misc/war/

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    • TripleCrown9
      Keep the Faith
      • May 2010
      • 23676

      #3
      Re: What is WAR?

      It's a stat to determine a player's value, Wins Above Replacement.
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      • redsox4evur
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2013
        • 18169

        #4
        Re: What is WAR?

        Originally posted by dubplate
        Wins Above Replacement (WAR) is an attempt by the sabermetric baseball community to summarize a player’s total contributions to their team in one statistic. You should always use more than one metric at a time when evaluating players, but WAR is all-inclusive and provides a useful reference point for comparing players. WAR offers an estimate to answer the question, “If this player got injured and their team had to replace them with a freely available minor leaguer or a AAAA player from their bench, how much value would the team be losing?” This value is expressed in a wins format, so we could say that Player X is worth +6.3 wins to their team while Player Y is only worth +3.5 wins, which means it is highly likely that Player X has been more valuable than Player Y.

        WAR is not meant to be a perfectly precise indicator of a player’s contribution, but rather an estimate of their value to date. Given the imperfections of some of the available data and the assumptions made to calculate other components, WAR works best as an approximation. A 6 WAR player might be worth between 5.0 and 7.0 WAR, but it is pretty safe to say they are at least an All-Star level player and potentially an MVP.

        While WAR is not as complicated as some might think, it does require a good bit of information to calculate and understand. Below you can find general information about WAR and links to specific information about position players and pitchers, as WAR is obviously calculated differently for each.

        http://www.fangraphs.com/library/misc/war/

        To summarize this post easily...it's how many more Wins that Mike Trout or player X gives your team than Daniel Nava.
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        • tnixen
          MVP
          • Oct 2011
          • 3184

          #5
          Re: What is WAR?

          cool thanks for the info sounds like a great feature for all the stat heavy gamers

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          • breakfastcat
            MVP
            • Jan 2013
            • 1018

            #6
            Re: What is WAR?

            Originally posted by redsox4evur
            To summarize this post easily...it's how many more Wins that Mike Trout or player X gives your team than Daniel Nava.
            That's funny because Trout and Nava are both gonna start in the same outfield.


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            • TripleCrown9
              Keep the Faith
              • May 2010
              • 23676

              #7
              Re: What is WAR?

              Originally posted by breakfastcat
              That's funny because Trout and Nava are both gonna start in the same outfield.


              How about...Mike Trout had a WAR of 9.39 in 2015. His projected backup, Craig Gentry, had a WAR of -.7 in 2015.
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              • tessl
                All Star
                • Apr 2007
                • 5683

                #8
                Re: What is WAR?

                My view on WAR is it's a contrived stat which should only be used as a stat and not an attribute.

                It assigns an arbitrary value to each defensive position on the field and attempts to use it to determine the value of a player. If WAR ever becomes an attribute the show has lost its way.

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                • TripleCrown9
                  Keep the Faith
                  • May 2010
                  • 23676

                  #9
                  Re: What is WAR?

                  Originally posted by tessl
                  My view on WAR is it's a contrived stat which should only be used as a stat and not an attribute.

                  It assigns an arbitrary value to each defensive position on the field and attempts to use it to determine the value of a player. If WAR ever becomes an attribute the show has lost its way.
                  There's no way to make it an attribute.
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                  • Madden's Jowels
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1249

                    #10
                    Re: What is WAR?

                    Originally posted by tessl
                    My view on WAR is it's a contrived stat which should only be used as a stat and not an attribute.

                    Considering it's a stat that accumulates throughout a season with every game played and not an inherent skill, I don't think you ever have to worry about it being made into an attribute, since that would make no sense whatsoever.

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                    • Ghost Of The Year
                      Life's been good so far.
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 6352

                      #11
                      Re: What is WAR?

                      The real question is 'What is it good for?'
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                      • 55
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 20857

                        #12
                        Re: What is WAR?

                        Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
                        The real question is 'What is it good for?'
                        Absolutely nothing.

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                        • WaitTilNextYear
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                          • Mar 2013
                          • 16830

                          #13
                          Re: What is WAR?

                          And this is for the youngsters who might not get it...

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                          • SmooveMove
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 1349

                            #14
                            Re: What is WAR?

                            So just to help me understand, someones war depends on who is backing them up? In other words if Mike Trouts replacement was Andre Mccutchen would him war look different?
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                            • TripleCrown9
                              Keep the Faith
                              • May 2010
                              • 23676

                              #15
                              Re: What is WAR?

                              Originally posted by SmooveMove
                              So just to help me understand, someones war depends on who is backing them up? In other words if Mike Trouts replacement was Andre Mccutchen would him war look different?
                              No, it's just an individual stat. The difference in WAR depends on the players, but a player's WAR is based solely on his own performance.
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