MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[GamecocksLaw17]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Fair trade?

DET (21-21) acquires SP Tyler Skaggs (1-0, 7.1 IP, 6 K) from LA (17-25) for RF JD Martinez (.212, 6 HR, 17 RBIs) and RP Bruce Rondon (No ML stats)...

Thoughts?

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No. JD Martinez alone is worth at least on legit prospect, Martinez has been over 5 WAR and is more than a rental. The Angels cannot get Martinez, unless you want to move Kole Calhoun plus more. The Angels farm is literally the worst in baseball

[Scott]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

No. JD Martinez alone is worth at least on legit prospect, Martinez has been over 5 WAR and is more than a rental. The Angels cannot get Martinez, unless you want to move Kole Calhoun plus more. The Angels farm is literally the worst in baseball

That's what I figured. Was a cpu trade, I'll override it.

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[ShowTyme15]

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Astros franchise. I'm going to let Carlos Gomez walk at the end of the year. I was looking and possibly getting Kevin Kiermaier as a replacement. What should I give up to get him? Michael Taylor of the Nationals is also an option. Thoughts and Ideas would be great. Thanks.

[CBoller1331]

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Astros franchise. I'm going to let Carlos Gomez walk at the end of the year. I was looking and possibly getting Kevin Kiermaier as a replacement. What should I give up to get him? Michael Taylor of the Nationals is also an option. Thoughts and Ideas would be great. Thanks.

Offseason trades or deadline deals?

[ShowTyme15]

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Offseason trades or deadline deals?

Off season trades.

[CBoller1331]

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Depending on how well Kiermaier hit, I think you can kind of look at the Andrelton Simmons trade. An elite defender, if he can provide average offense he would probably command a pretty big return. Tampa Bay would probably want young hitters in return, I don't think Bregman or Reed are necessary but Kyle Tucker/Daz Cameron + could probably get it done.

[s0crates12]

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So I am playing as the Padres, trying to speed up the rebuild/restock of the main roster. At the end of June and want to bring in two players I see as vital to the teams future and direction.

The two players are both from the Dodgers, which as its in division would usually make it more difficult but the two have a history of trades. The dodgers lead the division by 4.5 games at this point and have already acquired Michael Brantley from the Indians. My Padres are 20.5 games back at this point.

What would it take to get these two:
LF Trayce Thompson - .210 AVG, 4 HRs, 12 RBIs (DL for May)
2B? Kike Hernandez - .207 AVG, 6 HRs, 15 RBIs

[NDAlum]

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One criticism of the thread:

It places too much of an emphasis on real life. I think if a person doesn't paint the picture of their franchise, then sure default to real life.

Do I think real life should have an impact? Yes.

I just believe the game ratings + contract + potential + performance + real life value need to be included in the decisions. For example an injury to Tyson Ross IRL =/= what he's doing in the game.

Also for me a guy like Pomeranz doesn't hold the current value he does IRL because his performance for me in 2017 is flat out horrible.

So gentlemen, please include stats and other info when requesting feedback. These additional variables help people give you better feedback!

[GamecocksLaw17]

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One criticism of the thread:

It places too much of an emphasis on real life. I think if a person doesn't paint the picture of their franchise, then sure default to real life.

Do I think real life should have an impact? Yes.

I just believe the game ratings + contract + potential + performance + real life value need to be included in the decisions. For example an injury to Tyson Ross IRL =/= what he's doing in the game.

Also for me a guy like Pomeranz doesn't hold the current value he does IRL because his performance for me in 2017 is flat out horrible.

So gentlemen, please include stats and other info when requesting feedback. These additional variables help people give you better feedback!

As long as I've been a member of OS. This thread has primarily been for fair and realistic trades. IF you specify enough information from your franchise we can do the trade based on that, but no one in this thread can assume how players are playing in every franchise. It also stems from the game allowing horrid trades and people think those are acceptable when for the most part they aren't

[IXI DECAY IXI]

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So I'm running a Braves franchise, coming out of the all star break, the Angels offered me a trade for Aybar. I didn't think much of it at first but now it's got me thinking.

I see they have lost Simmons for 2 months and they are currently 6 games back in the wild card race. Their current team strategy is playoff push.

Aybar isn't exactly lighting it up for me although he is currently hot at the moment. He's batting .233 with 2 HR, and 25 RBI's. He's an 84 overall player. The Angels are currently using Rey Navarro, a 73 OVR with a .225 AVG.

Would I be able to get some good value for Aybar or should I just move along?

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

One criticism of the thread:

It places too much of an emphasis on real life. I think if a person doesn't paint the picture of their franchise, then sure default to real life.

Do I think real life should have an impact? Yes.

I just believe the game ratings + contract + potential + performance + real life value need to be included in the decisions. For example an injury to Tyson Ross IRL =/= what he's doing in the game.

Also for me a guy like Pomeranz doesn't hold the current value he does IRL because his performance for me in 2017 is flat out horrible.

So gentlemen, please include stats and other info when requesting feedback. These additional variables help people give you better feedback!

As long as I've been a member of OS. This thread has primarily been for fair and realistic trades. IF you specify enough information from your franchise we can do the trade based on that, but no one in this thread can assume how players are playing in every franchise. It also stems from the game allowing horrid trades and people think those are acceptable when for the most part they aren't

It depends. Some people want it to be uber realistic and some people give more weight to in game performance. Some people just want fair value and some guys just trade for the sake of trading. It's really up to the question-asker to paint the picture of what they want and what they're looking for. If there's no info or it seems cheap/unrealistic, I usually don't even bother responding. Ditto with guys who only ask and never answer questions. Sometimes I don't respond anyway, lol.

That said, the more info the better (you can spoiler it to make your posts more digestible to people--otherwise nobody will read a page long post). The problem we usually have is people not giving any info or not enough info. Secondary problem is people don't do any research and ask about the same players all the time, which is annoying.

[adamj2281]

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So I'm running a Braves franchise, coming out of the all star break, the Angels offered me a trade for Aybar. I didn't think much of it at first but now it's got me thinking.

I see they have lost Simmons for 2 months and they are currently 6 games back in the wild card race. Their current team strategy is playoff push.

Aybar isn't exactly lighting it up for me although he is currently hot at the moment. He's batting .233 with 2 HR, and 25 RBI's. He's an 84 overall player. The Angels are currently using Rey Navarro, a 73 OVR with a .225 AVG.

Would I be able to get some good value for Aybar or should I just move along?

If you are going the realistic route, I'd say a RP prospect in the C range, or some other position other than SP.

[KBLover]

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I'm somewhat on the fence for a valuation for a fictional in my carryover (currently in 2022).

I'm not sure I will deal him, but I also might.

Details:

Time: Late-May

Team: Marlins, first place currently. Looking ahead to potential arbitration issues across the roster. Budget is high, but these arbitration contracts are getting up there.

Player Performance: 2.02 ERA, 2.52 FIP, 64 ERA-, 79 FIP- (league adjusted to the performance of the franchise itself, not MLB)

Projection: 3.04 ERA, 3.27 FIP, 96 ERA-, 103 FIP- (Projected using franchise league averages, not MLB)

Prior two seasons: 3.32 ERA, 3.36 ERA

Age: 27, 2 years service.

Contract situation: 3 years of team control left (via arbitration). Currently making $800K, but that will likely skyrocket now that he's entering ARB years.

Ratings: 90 STA, 84(+2)/73/76/69(+2), 63/94/74, 92 (rising)/A (steady)

Scouting report: Five-pitch arsenal that he can use to change speeds and eye level. Sometimes struggles with command and can let things get to him on the mound. However, when he's right, he very difficult to attack. 2SFB sits around 95-96, but his 4SFB is 97-99.

Seeking: Likely prospects of any kind except perhaps at CF/RF. Well catcher too...because there are no catcher prospects in this franchise lol (I mean that literally, they all suck), so I won't even bother there.

I'm in the fence a bit because those projections aren't wonderful, but then again, he is a rising talent (already gaining more points) and the projection might be underselling some growth. I don't have a specific target in mind yet (one-team franchise and haven't really shopped him to see what the CPU thinks yet), but just wanted some opinions of how high you'd set the price.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I'm somewhat on the fence for a valuation for a fictional in my carryover (currently in 2022).

I'm not sure I will deal him, but I also might.

Details:

Time: Late-May

Team: Marlins, first place currently. Looking ahead to potential arbitration issues across the roster. Budget is high, but these arbitration contracts are getting up there.

Player Performance: 2.02 ERA, 2.52 FIP, 64 ERA-, 79 FIP- (league adjusted to the performance of the franchise itself, not MLB)

Projection: 3.04 ERA, 3.27 FIP, 96 ERA-, 103 FIP- (Projected using franchise league averages, not MLB)

Prior two seasons: 3.32 ERA, 3.36 ERA

Age: 27, 2 years service.

Contract situation: 3 years of team control left (via arbitration). Currently making $800K, but that will likely skyrocket now that he's entering ARB years.

Ratings: 90 STA, 84(+2)/73/76/69(+2), 63/94/74, 92 (rising)/A (steady)

Scouting report: Five-pitch arsenal that he can use to change speeds and eye level. Sometimes struggles with command and can let things get to him on the mound. However, when he's right, he very difficult to attack. 2SFB sits around 95-96, but his 4SFB is 97-99.

Seeking: Likely prospects of any kind except perhaps at CF/RF. Well catcher too...because there are no catcher prospects in this franchise lol (I mean that literally, they all suck), so I won't even bother there.

I'm in the fence a bit because those projections aren't wonderful, but then again, he is a rising talent (already gaining more points) and the projection might be underselling some growth. I don't have a specific target in mind yet (one-team franchise and haven't really shopped him to see what the CPU thinks yet), but just wanted some opinions of how high you'd set the price.

What do you mean by projection?

This player has 3 years of team control left, great stats, A POT, good ratings. I think you can get a borderline All-Star level player for him. Maybe someone with a bit less talent if you want cheaper (rookie) and 5-6 years of team control instead of more arb-eligible players.

It might be helpful to find a real life player that is in a somewhat similar situation (Sonny Gray, Jacob deGrom etc..). I don't think most people will know what to do with a fake player in 2022.

Have you thought of randomly changing some other position player prospects (strong arm, slow, squat body type) to catcher if there are no good cpu-generated ones? Seems like a logical work around to flawed draft classes.

[KBLover]

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What do you mean by projection?

By projection, I ran a Marcel-inspired projection on him (the overall gist is Tango's Marcel and I did the 3-years weighted, age factor, etc).

Edit: And yeah, I might have to do that for the catcher situation. I'll see what the June draft brings (first under MLB16) and go from there.