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  • Daonlyjmo7
    MVP
    • May 2014
    • 1052

    #3151
    Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

    Need a little help here. These obviously are hard to come by, but I want to know what prospects are considered available that could realistically become middle of the order players. I would be willing to pay a premium. I just want to know which players fit that mold that could be available. You guys have decided for me that Baez and Gallo are untouchable, but what players who fit the mold of a middle of the order bat could potentially be available?
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    • GamecocksLaw17
      MVP
      • Jun 2015
      • 1503

      #3152
      Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Daonlyjmo7
      Need a little help here. These obviously are hard to come by, but I want to know what prospects are considered available that could realistically become middle of the order players. I would be willing to pay a premium. I just want to know which players fit that mold that could be available. You guys have decided for me that Baez and Gallo are untouchable, but what players who fit the mold of a middle of the order bat could potentially be available?
      It really depends on what you're willing and able to give up. Gallo and Baez could be moved for the right piece. The problem seems to be that you're the Padres and they are light on movable MLB assets. Devers is movable for the right piece, but I personally don't think Ross is enough but I'm just one opinion. Meadows could be traded but it would cost a fortune and again not something the Padres have.

      It's really a situational thing. I would say Gallo can't be moved if you mention Ross as the centerpiece and immediately say he will be traded if we're talking Jose Fernandez. Does that make sense

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      • Daonlyjmo7
        MVP
        • May 2014
        • 1052

        #3153
        Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
        It's really a situational thing. I would say Gallo can't be moved if you mention Ross as the centerpiece and immediately say he will be traded if we're talking Jose Fernandez. Does that make sense
        Thanks for the response. This part doesn't make much sense though haha. I get that the Padres aren't overflowing with assets. I would be willing to give anything besides Myers, Margot, and Guerra if that helps. I would be willing to put together a hell of a package. If it was Gallo, I could give Ross, Norris+. Gallo would really be the guy I would want. Baez would be great too, but I don't see the Cubs having enough needs. The Rangers I think could have enough that I could fill that the appeal of improving so much in one trade could make that deal a possibility. I would make a deal for Devers, but I am already doing the Espinoza trade. If there is anyone else you or anyone else has in mind along with ideas of packages that I could give to get them, it would be highly appreciated.
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        • epikOH
          Rookie
          • Nov 2010
          • 95

          #3154
          Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

          What would it take from the Nats to acquire Ryan Madson and Sean Doolittle from the A's? Their entire bullpen have ERAs over 4 and WHIPs over 1.5 so they desperately need the help.

          Ryan Madson 25 SV, 2.35 ERA, 1.15 WHIP, 9.8 K/9, 1.4 BB/9, 29 IP. 2 years on his contract.
          Sean Doolittle 14 HLD, 2.12 ERA, 1.08 WHIP, 10.8 K/9, 1.8 BB/9, 39 IP. 3 years on his contract.

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          • WaitTilNextYear
            Go Cubs Go
            • Mar 2013
            • 16830

            #3155
            Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by epikOH
            What would it take from the Nats to acquire Ryan Madson and Sean Doolittle from the A's? Their entire bullpen have ERAs over 4 and WHIPs over 1.5 so they desperately need the help.

            Ryan Madson 25 SV, 2.35 ERA, 1.15 WHIP, 9.8 K/9, 1.4 BB/9, 29 IP. 2 years on his contract.
            Sean Doolittle 14 HLD, 2.12 ERA, 1.08 WHIP, 10.8 K/9, 1.8 BB/9, 39 IP. 3 years on his contract.
            Those are good numbers.

            Michael Taylor + A.J. Cole + Drew Ward

            Something like that.
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            • sc050610
              Rookie
              • Oct 2014
              • 229

              #3156
              Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
              Yeah, I think you could put a package together to get CarGo. The O's don't have much on the farm, but using Harvey as the centerpiece along with 2 guys out of the Christian Walker/Trey Mancini/Chance Sisco/Chris Lee/Ryan Mountcastle group should be enough considering the salary relief as well. I think CarGo is more likely because Blackmon will still be cheap for a couple of years.



              Harvey + Mancini + Chris Lee/Mountcastle probably gets it done considering that CarGo is doing a bit worse in your franchise than IRL and vice versa for Harvey.


              Thank you for the response. Think I'll go Harvey/Mancini/Mountcastle for CarGo. Mancini is stuck behind Chris Davis and I prefer to not have a full time DH so I can move guys in and out the spot to get them a half of rest day when needed. Mountcastle projects to be a second basemen with his arm strength being a question mark at short so if I'm going on that then he will be stuck behind Jonathan Schoop.

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              • redsox4evur
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2013
                • 18169

                #3157
                Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                It really depends on what you're willing and able to give up. Gallo and Baez could be moved for the right piece. The problem seems to be that you're the Padres and they are light on movable MLB assets. Devers is movable for the right piece, but I personally don't think Ross is enough but I'm just one opinion. Meadows could be traded but it would cost a fortune and again not something the Padres have.

                It's really a situational thing. I would say Gallo can't be moved if you mention Ross as the centerpiece and immediately say he will be traded if we're talking Jose Fernandez. Does that make sense
                Devers may be movable. I think it all depends on what happens with Hanley and more importantly Moncada. If Hanley is a liability at first (which surprisingly he hasn't been) then he will go to DH, Shaw to 1B and Moncada to third, effectively blocking Devers. If Shaw is struggling and Moncada isn't a good fielder then I would imagine a 34 year old Dustin Pedroia gets moved (we've moved on from big fan favorites before [Lester, Manny, Pedro, Clemens, Nomar] to name a few) and Moncada goes to 2B and Devers is at 3rd. Also there's a potential of Sandoval screwing this whole thing up if he returns to SF form at DH, which is where I think he is next year to start off the year. But I agree Ross isn't a big enough return for Devers. I would consider him in a deal for Myers though.
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                • epikOH
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 95

                  #3158
                  Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                  Those are good numbers.

                  Michael Taylor + A.J. Cole + Drew Ward

                  Something like that.

                  Thank you so much. I had Cole and Ward in there. I also had Victor Robles but I'll switch if I have to.

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                  • Daonlyjmo7
                    MVP
                    • May 2014
                    • 1052

                    #3159
                    Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                    I found a guy that I'm interested in. Josh Naylor of the Marlins. Do you guys think he could be dealt for the right price? If so, what is that price. Btw, Pomeranz is the only player I have traded away.
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                    • WaitTilNextYear
                      Go Cubs Go
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 16830

                      #3160
                      Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by sc050610
                      Thank you for the response. Think I'll go Harvey/Mancini/Mountcastle for CarGo. Mancini is stuck behind Chris Davis and I prefer to not have a full time DH so I can move guys in and out the spot to get them a half of rest day when needed. Mountcastle projects to be a second basemen with his arm strength being a question mark at short so if I'm going on that then he will be stuck behind Jonathan Schoop.
                      I think those players fit well with Colorado in addition to them being expendable for you. Colorado is trying everything at C/1B after moving on from Todd Helton, Justin Morneau, and Wilin Rosario. Mark Reynolds and Nick Hundley have been ok, but they're both 32 and on the way down. Mancini could probably be a long-term starter there at 1B. Harvey works because every team can use high-upside young pitching, especially COL, and the game doesn't see his injury risk quite the same. Mountcastle could be a decent utility player backing up Arenado/Story/LeMahieu.

                      Originally posted by epikOH
                      Thank you so much. I had Cole and Ward in there. I also had Victor Robles but I'll switch if I have to.
                      I think Robles is a bit too much to spend on a relief pitcher, unless we're talking best closer in baseball. Seems like Robles is on the verge of cracking the Top 10 prospects in baseball. Baseball America placed him 13th in their midseason update. Robles has been holding his own in high A ball at 19. He might be the next 20-year-old to jump to the majors straight from AA ball.

                      I like Michael Taylor as a fit for Oakland because he's young, cheap, major league ready, and can help them finally move on from Coco Crisp and Sam Fuld etc..
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                      • Daonlyjmo7
                        MVP
                        • May 2014
                        • 1052

                        #3161
                        Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                        Also, on a smaller scale, would Cashner for Jomar Reyes be out of the question?
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                        • sc050610
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 229

                          #3162
                          Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by Daonlyjmo7
                          Also, on a smaller scale, would Cashner for Jomar Reyes be out of the question?


                          What's Cashner's stats? From an Oriole fan perspective I don't think they do it for a rental unless he pitching like he did a few years ago.

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                          • Tmizzle
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 370

                            #3163
                            Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Daonlyjmo7
                            Also, on a smaller scale, would Cashner for Jomar Reyes be out of the question?
                            As an Orioles fan, Jomar Reyes isn't really regarded as a "top notch guy". I think you need more to get Cashner
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                            • Tmizzle
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 370

                              #3164
                              Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by sc050610
                              Thank you for the response. Think I'll go Harvey/Mancini/Mountcastle for CarGo. Mancini is stuck behind Chris Davis and I prefer to not have a full time DH so I can move guys in and out the spot to get them a half of rest day when needed. Mountcastle projects to be a second basemen with his arm strength being a question mark at short so if I'm going on that then he will be stuck behind Jonathan Schoop.
                              That deal would have to include Bundy, easily. Mountcaslte is low A-Ball player and will be blocked in the infield by Arenado and Story. You are talking about Cargo here and ou are offering one prospect in the top 100.
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                              • GamecocksLaw17
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2015
                                • 1503

                                #3165
                                Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by Daonlyjmo7
                                Thanks for the response. This part doesn't make much sense though haha. I get that the Padres aren't overflowing with assets. I would be willing to give anything besides Myers, Margot, and Guerra if that helps. I would be willing to put together a hell of a package. If it was Gallo, I could give Ross, Norris+. Gallo would really be the guy I would want. Baez would be great too, but I don't see the Cubs having enough needs. The Rangers I think could have enough that I could fill that the appeal of improving so much in one trade could make that deal a possibility. I would make a deal for Devers, but I am already doing the Espinoza trade. If there is anyone else you or anyone else has in mind along with ideas of packages that I could give to get them, it would be highly appreciated.
                                What it means is top end prospects do not usually get traded for packages of guys. They are usually the centerpiece to an elite player. The Padres don't have an elite player. Norris really isn't that good to be frank. He's a 2-2.5 WAR guy.

                                It's like this, would you trade away Margot for Colin McHugh and Jason Castro+? It is a risk assessment thing. Teams don't like to give up really valuable pieces unless they are getting a legit upgrade. Norris is barely an upgrade over what the Rangers have been doing at C. Also, theres no need to bring up Rodney as a trade piece, he was traded for a not highly ranked A ball pitcher with good feel and good pitch-ability but not good raw stuff.

                                If you have guys that are off limits, and they are less valuable than the guys you want, why wouldn't the other teams make them off limits? I posted something in here a while ago and I can't remember the wording, but it was basically that every time you make a player off limits, it makes the pool you can trade from smaller. If you won't trade your top end guys, good chance you can't get someone else's top end guys.
                                Last edited by GamecocksLaw17; 07-17-2016, 09:14 AM.

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