MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[CBoller1331]

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Maybe. What are McGee and Smith's stats? If Dom Smith is really tearing it up (hitting like .340), then probably not.

My main concern is that the Mets are desperate for offense so I'm not sure if it makes sense in a medium-to-long-term time frame to deal their best offensive prospect. If they are already 9.5 games up, maybe they do a couple of smaller moves to shore up the roster and don't pay quite as much, but still make the playoffs comfortably.

Smith is slashing .270/.325/.367 with 7 HR through just under 400 ABs at AA.

Mcgee has been pretty good out of the pen: 3.00 ERA, 8.45 K/9, 3.15 FIP, 0.53 WAR.

I like the idea of Blackmon to NY, so if Smith is a no go, then ill look into your other suggestion.

[Daonlyjmo7]

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I don't see the Mete trading Smith for that package. He is their first baseman of the future. I feel like the Molina deal is really good for both sides.

As for the three team trade, Nats and Rays would do it but it's not very good for the Rockies at all. And it is hard to expand because of the fact that it is two rebuilding teams and a contender. The Rockies wouldn't want ordozzi, they would want prospects. The Rays wouldn't want to give that. As for the Royals trade, I could see Frazier or Zimmer and a few low b or high c prospects being dealt for the two of Reddick/Valencia as long as the Indians are contending.

[Daonlyjmo7]

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As for my franchise, these are the trades I would want to make:

Ross for Gleybar Torres+(Ian Happ, Dan Vogelbach?)

Pomeranz for Espinoza (obviously)

Cashner/Norris for ? (Profar? Ortiz? Tate?)

Shields to White Sox for Spencer Adams?, John Danks, and Zach Duke

Questions I am asking:
1. Who is realistic for the Cubs to add to Torres for the Ross deal?
2. For the Rangers trade, who is realistic? Brinson or Gallo are too high, so I am thinkingOrtiz/Tate? Maybe Profar? Is that realistic?
3. Would the White Sox give Shields in that trade?
4. Who could the Red Sox give for Yangervis Solarte? I want to deal him to them because coming into the season, Shaw and Solarte would be a nasty platoon. Then I could throw in either Jon Jay as well or expand and give them Kemp and I could take Sandoval. Thoughts on that?

[WaitTilNextYear]

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You might consider a fantasy draft given you haven't started yet and have your eye on so many players not on your team. That's the easier way to completely re-make your team.

[Tmizzle]

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Nah. Bundy doesn't really move the needle at this point. Mancini is more valuable and fits Colorado better. You also have to consider salaries and the stats that were given. There's more to deal-making than doling out a certain amount of top prospects from one bin and top prospects from another bin. Not just "oh, it's CarGo, so X".

CarGo is making $20MM next season and then a free agent. There's no way they re-sign him, so Harvey (with amazing stats) + Mancini + Mountcastle + $30MM in salary relief is a decent return for 1.5 years of him.

Aside from that, Mountcastle isn't really "blocked" by anyone. Story isn't established yet and Mountcastle is more likely to move to 2B anyway. By the time this low A ball player makes the bigs, the infield could look a lot different. Arenado is a free agent after 2018 or 2019, and Mountcastle could very well not even debut until then. You don't really consider "blockages" for guys in low A if you like the player. Being "blocked" is more a thing for 25-year-olds that are major league ready and not 20-year-olds that you acknowledged are in low A.

You are really high on Mountcastle. None of these prospects expect Harvey (hurt again) are in the top 100 and you are getting an all star in Cargo. I just don't see this ever happening.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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You are really high on Mountcastle. None of these prospects expect Harvey (hurt again) are in the top 100 and you are getting an all star in Cargo. I just don't see this ever happening.

I disagree. CarGo is not producing in his game as in real life. If he had IRL stats, then I would agree with you. Also, take a look at what Hunter Harvey was doing in his franchise.

As a general matter, I think people pay too much attention to the Top xxx lists. We really have no idea if they match the internal, proprietary lists that various teams have. I can see it as a minor tool, but needing to have a quota of those players on the list in a particular deal doesn't really make sense to me.

[Tmizzle]

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I disagree. CarGo is not producing in his game as in real life. If he had IRL stats, then I would agree with you. Also, take a look at what Hunter Harvey was doing in his franchise.

As a general matter, I think people pay too much attention to the Top xxx lists. We really have no idea if they match the internal, proprietary lists that various teams have. I can see it as a minor tool, but needing to have a quota of those players on the list in a particular deal doesn't really make sense to me.

I can agree for sure. That's why this thread can sometimes be crazy and a lot of people don't use in game stats and just use real life stats. Take Gray for an example. Gray is doing terrible in real life and has been injured but in the game he is pitching outstanding. I usually go by in game stats when making deals.

[Daonlyjmo7]

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You might consider a fantasy draft given you haven't started yet and have your eye on so many players not on your team. That's the easier way to completely re-make your team.

Nah. I like to do real teams. It's just that I like the franchise changing traded to be done before the franchise starts.

[Tmizzle]

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Nah. I like to do real teams. It's just that I like the franchise changing traded to be done before the franchise starts.

If your trying to be realistic, many trades don't happen in the spring before the season starts. That was the point he was tying to make.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Nah. I like to do real teams. It's just that I like the franchise changing traded to be done before the franchise starts.

If your trying to be realistic, many trades don't happen in the spring before the season starts. That was the point he was tying to make.

The other point is that nobody wants to help someone who isn't invested in their franchise. You ask about 17 different trades (exaggerating a bit, lol), but haven't even played a single game. What if you wake up tomorrow and want to re-start as a different team? That makes everyone's work and advice go to waste. That's why I usually don't answer early season/trade everybody type of posts. It's far too common for those players to lose interest and re-start. I like helping people out that are already invested in playing out their franchise, not just in seeing who they can swap for who on any given day.

Fantasy draft is better for people who just want to use a variety of different players.

[CBoller1331]

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Nats get: CarGo from Rockies + Pearce/Guyer from TB
Rays get: Victor Robles + AJ Cole
Rockies get: Lopez/Fedde + Voth from Nats + Odorizzi from Rays

What if I add one more prospect for the Rockies? I mean most of their prospects are close enough that they could be competitive next year, and maybe chase a playoff spot in 2018. Odorizzi still has 3 years of arbitration.

That is a lot for the Nats to give up.....but chasing the Mets by 9.5 games and holding on in a tight WC race, they might be willing to do it.

As for your Ross to the Cubs trade....if you want Torres as the centerpiece then you probably can't get Happ. Vogelbach is doable....but hes pretty poor defensively and is probably better off DH-ing in the AL. Candelario/McKinney are probably your best bets

[Daonlyjmo7]

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The other point is that nobody wants to help someone who isn't invested in their franchise. You ask about 17 different trades (exaggerating a bit, lol), but haven't even played a single game. What if you wake up tomorrow and want to re-start as a different team? That makes everyone's work and advice go to waste. That's why I usually don't answer early season/trade everybody type of posts. It's far too common for those players to lose interest and re-start. I like helping people out that are already invested in playing out their franchise, not just in seeing who they can swap for who on any given day.

Fantasy draft is better for people who just want to use a variety of different players.

Understood. But from my perspective, I am invested but just need to make the trades in order to start it. I care that the trades are realistic, but not so much about the timing of them. I get that you aren't willing to help me until later on, and I get that. I will be back later on in my franchise that is for certain .

Also, you guys have helped me learn to put things in perspective. While I am not high on Gallo and personally would take the Ross trade, the Rangers wouldn't. I wouldn't take the Baez deal. Also, it makes sense about the quarter vs two dimes and a nickel. Thanks for that I guess.

For now, can you help we with one thing, that being the Shields trade. Is Adams a fair prospect to be included in the deal I mentioned, or would it have to be someone else?

[Daonlyjmo7]

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What if I add one more prospect for the Rockies? I mean most of their prospects are close enough that they could be competitive next year, and maybe chase a playoff spot in 2018. Odorizzi still has 3 years of arbitration.

That is a lot for the Nats to give up.....but chasing the Mets by 9.5 games and holding on in a tight WC race, they might be willing to do it.

As for your Ross to the Cubs trade....if you want Torres as the centerpiece then you probably can't get Happ. Vogelbach is doable....but hes pretty poor defensively and is probably better off DH-ing in the AL. Candelario/McKinney are probably your best bets

Sounds good for the Ross trade. I'll go with McKinney. I was down to flipping a coin between the two, so if McKinney is more realistic, I will do that.

As for your trade, if I were the Rockies I would want Fedde and Lopez, not one of the two and Voth. They do have pieces to contend by 2018, but one of them happens to be CarGo (even though he is no guarantee to stay). I see you put in Pearce/Guyer. I would say you should give them Guyer unless Pearce has significantly better stats. Also, I think the Rays could use some throw ins from each team. Wilmer Difo or Andrew Stephenson could be an option, but if Rafael Bautista is in your roster then I would put him for sure. As for the Rockies, Mike nikorak and/or Tom murphy would do it. Lastly, if this trade is made, the Rays should definetly end up trying to move some more players in order to rebuild, such as Archer, Moore, or even Longoria.

[CBoller1331]

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A few more trades:

CLE gets: Josh Reddick --> A's get: Rob Kaminsky + ??

PIT gets: Danny Valencia + Phegley --> A's get: Hayes + Kingham

TOR gets: Rich Hill --> A's get Max Pentecost

HOU gets: Rubby De La Rossa (1.45 WAR) --> AZ gets: Derek Fisher+

Mets get: Zack Cozart (.281/.336/.447, 3.24 WAR) --> Reds get: Desmond Lindsey + Marcos Molina

[KBLover]

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That's why I usually don't answer early season/trade everybody type of posts.

I'm pretty invested in my carryover (year 8 and all) but you were the only one who replied about Luis Heredia's possible trade value