MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[BigOscar]

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Fair enough, looks like Arenado is a no goer for at least another year or two at best. I'll keep Cargo in the back of my mind for the rest of the month as he could really help, if I can't find a cheaper option that wouldn't hurt me as much in the long term.

Of the other rebuilding teams, Trevor Plouffe is probably the most interesting available option. He's having a decent year (.265 with 10 HR), in the last year of his contract and is not a completely incompetent fielder (unlike Valencia and Prado, the other options). So what sort of deal do you think the Twins would expect for him, given that he's a free agent and they are done for the season?

[Tmizzle]

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Fair enough, looks like Arenado is a no goer for at least another year or two at best. I'll keep Cargo in the back of my mind for the rest of the month as he could really help, if I can't find a cheaper option that wouldn't hurt me as much in the long term.

Of the other rebuilding teams, Trevor Plouffe is probably the most interesting available option. He's having a decent year (.265 with 10 HR), in the last year of his contract and is not a completely incompetent fielder (unlike Valencia and Prado, the other options). So what sort of deal do you think the Twins would expect for him, given that he's a free agent and they are done for the season?

Plouffe is a decent option. Another guy could be Brad Miller.

[BigOscar]

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Plouffe is a decent option. Another guy could be Brad Miller.

Annoyingly, no one is running away with the wildcard spots in the AL so very few teams are rebuilding, they have to truly suck to be at the point of definitely being out of it. Only the A's and Twins are doing that bad.

Another option might be Travis Shaw? When looking for a place for David Wright to land I spotted that Shaw is absolutely stinking out the place at Boston (.210 with 2 homers) and they have the salary room to take his huge contract and are in the middle of a real race with the Orioles and Jays. A change of scenery might be what both of them need, although I would probably need to eat Aaron Hills contract for the rest of the year as well to make it work?

I can't see many other potential homes for Wright, if it weren't for the obviously impossible rivalry of it then the Yankees would probably be the leading option but that's a non-starter. There isn't a whole lot of demand for highly paid 3B with no power and a dodgy back unfortunately.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Annoyingly, no one is running away with the wildcard spots in the AL so very few teams are rebuilding, they have to truly suck to be at the point of definitely being out of it. Only the A's and Twins are doing that bad.

Another option might be Travis Shaw? When looking for a place for David Wright to land I spotted that Shaw is absolutely stinking out the place at Boston (.210 with 2 homers) and they have the salary room to take his huge contract and are in the middle of a real race with the Orioles and Jays. A change of scenery might be what both of them need, although I would probably need to eat Aaron Hills contract for the rest of the year as well to make it work?

I can't see many other potential homes for Wright, if it weren't for the obviously impossible rivalry of it then the Yankees would probably be the leading option but that's a non-starter. There isn't a whole lot of demand for highly paid 3B with no power and a dodgy back unfortunately.

To dump an injured Wright on Boston you're Probably taking Panda back

[Tmizzle]

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Annoyingly, no one is running away with the wildcard spots in the AL so very few teams are rebuilding, they have to truly suck to be at the point of definitely being out of it. Only the A's and Twins are doing that bad.

Another option might be Travis Shaw? When looking for a place for David Wright to land I spotted that Shaw is absolutely stinking out the place at Boston (.210 with 2 homers) and they have the salary room to take his huge contract and are in the middle of a real race with the Orioles and Jays. A change of scenery might be what both of them need, although I would probably need to eat Aaron Hills contract for the rest of the year as well to make it work?

I can't see many other potential homes for Wright, if it weren't for the obviously impossible rivalry of it then the Yankees would probably be the leading option but that's a non-starter. There isn't a whole lot of demand for highly paid 3B with no power and a dodgy back unfortunately.

To dump an injured Wright on Boston you're Probably taking Panda back

That is the thing here as you are trying to get younger at 3B but trying to deal Wright in the process which I don't see happening. I forgot how far you are in your season and if you said teams are not pulling away yet then you may have to wait some time before you pull a deal. You could try to trade for Brad Miller and start to platoon Wright and Miller & hope that Wright can start hitting and bump up his trade value but if you are contending, the Mets would never trade Wright.

[Mr1987]

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im about fed up wth Aaron Nola and want to trade him. his era is sky high and even if he turns it around id prefer a lefty even if i have to wait on him a while. Is this realistic and fair?

Aaron Nola 23 A 83
Mark Appel 25 B 74 or Zach Efflin 23 B 68 or other B potential talent .... i have lots
for

Blake Snell 24 A 77

[KBLover]

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im about fed up wth Aaron Nola and want to trade him. his era is sky high and even if he turns it around id prefer a lefty even if i have to wait on him a while. Is this realistic and fair?

Aaron Nola 23 A 83
Mark Appel 25 B 74 or Zach Efflin 23 B 68 or other B potential talent .... i have lots
for

Blake Snell 24 A 77

I don't know about "realistic" in the sense that I don't remember two young MLB ready SP traded for each other.

I don't know - hard for me to say because...trading two pitchers to get one like the one you're giving up, both in age and general talent...that's hard for me to get my head around.

I think it would make more sense to pick up Snell separately and try to come up with something solid for Nola other than trading him directly for Snell.

IDK guess just how I'd do it. I wouldn't know how to structure a "trade for what I have by giving up what I have" type of deal.

[Tmizzle]

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im about fed up wth Aaron Nola and want to trade him. his era is sky high and even if he turns it around id prefer a lefty even if i have to wait on him a while. Is this realistic and fair?

Aaron Nola 23 A 83
Mark Appel 25 B 74 or Zach Efflin 23 B 68 or other B potential talent .... i have lots
for

Blake Snell 24 A 77

I need to see the stats of Nola before I can even begin to say if it makes anything fair because in reality, It is un-realistic. To trade Nola just because you are fed up with him is not a real reasoning to deal him. Also, if he has a high ERA, why would the Rays trade one of their top pitching prospects for a guy getting pounded this season?

[Tmizzle]

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So we are through the trade deadline and many players have been placed on trade waivers. The one that really gets my attention is Danny Duffy. In my season he is in the bullpen and not having the greatest season, not even close to real life so I am going to claim him and try to work out a deal with the Royals. I highly doubt I will be able to to it as he is in the division. The other guy I want to claim is brad Brach. He is having a decent season but nothing like real life as well and he would surely bolster my bullpen.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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So we are through the trade deadline and many players have been placed on trade waivers. The one that really gets my attention is Danny Duffy. In my season he is in the bullpen and not having the greatest season, not even close to real life so I am going to claim him and try to work out a deal with the Royals.

In division so it will cost a "tax". If you go based on the game we need all the stats, if we go based on real life you won't want to give up what it costs

[Tmizzle]

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In division so it will cost a "tax". If you go based on the game we need all the stats, if we go based on real life you won't want to give up what it costs

I edited the post to also add Brach but i see you got the pre-edited post. Duffy is in the bullpen rated 74.
Duffy W-L 5-0 IP 48.1 BB 24 SO 30 ERA 4.47 WHIP 1.57 G 23 GS 2 WAR 0.05 K/9 5.59 BB/9 4.47 HR/9 0.93

So speaking frankly, he has been terrible lol

[KBLover]

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I need to see the stats of Nola before I can even begin to say if it makes anything fair because in reality, It is un-realistic. To trade Nola just because you are fed up with him is not a real reasoning to deal him. Also, if he has a high ERA, why would the Rays trade one of their top pitching prospects for a guy getting pounded this season?

Because they are getting a 23-year-old "more" ready now guy - plus another decent prospect on the side?

It's like trading Snell to get Snell one-year advanced (83 vs 77), one year younger, and a prospect on the side. Can't call that bad, imo.

I mean, sure, Snell is ready now also, but it's not like Nola is likely to be bad and, in theory, will have better skills (assuming that OVR difference is in the best ratings).

It's the structure that's more the trip-up, imo. Ready now SP kid for ready now SP kid + another prospect. Just odd.

[Tmizzle]

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Because they are getting a 23-year-old "more" ready now guy - plus another decent prospect on the side?

It's like trading Snell to get Snell one-year advanced (83 vs 77), one year younger, and a prospect on the side. Can't call that bad, imo.

I mean, sure, Snell is ready now also, but it's not like Nola is likely to be bad and, in theory, will have better skills (assuming that OVR difference is in the best ratings).

It's the structure that's more the trip-up, imo. Ready now SP kid for ready now SP kid + another prospect. Just odd.

It isn't like trading Snell to get one year advanced Snell because Snell is a lefty and Nola is a righty. Snell also has one more year under team control and if you go into the edit settings, Snells potential is already higher. He said Nola has had a high ERA so I am waiting for the stats for Nola.

[CBoller1331]

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If you're worried about realism, I can't recall a trade where a young, potential front end starter was traded for another comparable young, potential front end starter

[Sgexpat]

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If you're worried about realism, I can't recall a trade where a young, potential front end starter was traded for another comparable young, potential front end starter

I agree it doesn't make sense as a like for like swap .. because why (this applies to almost any like for like swap..just doesn't happen a ton).

In responding to a remark above that being fed up with a young starter is not a realistic prompt for a trade, I'm not so sure.

Teams do deal young starters / position players if they are fed up with them. One that comes to mind involving a former blue-chip prospect is when Arizona sent Trevor Bauer to CLE, rumours as to why were both performance and personality clashes. The Indians are pretty tolerant of his unique personality, and while he has been inconsistent, he's good value as a serviceable, cost-controlled option with some possible upside if he gets it together.