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  • Archanine
    Banned
    • Jul 2016
    • 44

    #3331
    Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
    I'm not trying to overstate my own worth, but I'm pretty sure most people on this thread don't just throw out my opinion.


    Keith Law did farm system rankings and had Texas two spots ahead of the Indians.


    Braves only have 6 in the top 100 in BA's Midseason top 100, so you probably think the Indians are above them too.


    Also your reading either suffered or you had a bad link because the Indians have 7 in the top 100 in BA Midseason not 10.


    Indians have a good farm system, not elite. I personally don't think a team with around the 10th best system is elite, I tend to think there are more like 3-5 elite farm systems.
    no im pretty sure most people do. keith law LoL thats a good one. ill take the organization that brings in millions of dollars of subscriptions to cober just baseball over Keith Law and thats considered the be all end all on baseball prospects 100% of the time.

    i also never said they had 10, i said close.to 10, which 7 is. you have trouble reading since this is now the third time you have lied and misquoted me. why are you posting when you cant even read or quote the correct statements ?

    and yes the Indians are above the braves 7, is higher than 6 might want to lie and troll somewhere else.

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    • GamecocksLaw17
      MVP
      • Jun 2015
      • 1503

      #3332
      Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Archanine
      no im pretty sure most people do. keith law LoL thats a good one. ill take the organization that brings in millions of dollars of subscriptions to cober just baseball over Keith Law and thats considered the be all end all on baseball prospects 100% of the time.

      i also never said they had 10, i said close.to 10, which 7 is. you have trouble reading since this is now the third time you have lied and misquoted me. why are you posting when you cant even read or quote the correct statements ?

      and yes the Indians are above the braves 7, is higher than 6 might want to lie and troll somewhere else.
      3 prospects in a top 100 is a big deal. Don't write that they have almost 10% of the list. Say they have 7% like they do. Most of which are outside the top 50 (5 of 7 outside).


      Believe it or not the Indians are not as great as you think. But you can post as you wish, I'm just done interacting with you TitoFranc. Have a good one.


      For everyone else, lets get this thread back on track with just over 10 days until the real deadline

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      • Scrapps
        Pro
        • Jan 2006
        • 825

        #3333
        Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by Archanine
        no im pretty sure most people do. keith law LoL thats a good one. ill take the organization that brings in millions of dollars of subscriptions to cober just baseball over Keith Law and thats considered the be all end all on baseball prospects 100% of the time.

        i also never said they had 10, i said close.to 10, which 7 is. you have trouble reading since this is now the third time you have lied and misquoted me. why are you posting when you cant even read or quote the correct statements ?

        and yes the Indians are above the braves 7, is higher than 6 might want to lie and troll somewhere else.
        FTR, 7 is not close to 10.

        Did you ever wonder why you get so much opposition every time you post?
        Is everyone else crazy? Or, is it yo........ oh, never mind. Just tell me more about Michael Brantley.

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        • Archanine
          Banned
          • Jul 2016
          • 44

          #3334
          Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
          3 prospects in a top 100 is a big deal. Don't write that they have almost 10% of the list. Say they have 7% like they do. Most of which are outside the top 50 (5 of 7 outside).


          Believe it or not the Indians are not as great as you think. But you can post as you wish, I'm just done interacting with you TitoFranc. Have a good one.


          For everyone else, lets get this thread back on track with just over 10 days until the real deadline

          oooooor i write almost 10 and you show us you have the ability to read. its not hard, i promise. and who cares about where in the top 100? nobody.

          believe it or not, every intelligent baseball source believes the indians are as great as i think. thats why they have almost 10 top 100 prospects, thats why they are likely going to end up winning the central this year.

          im sure things will get back on track when you stop lying and misquoting along with discrediting realiable sources because they dont fit the anti-cleveland agenda.

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          • Archanine
            Banned
            • Jul 2016
            • 44

            #3335
            Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by Scrapps
            FTR, 7 is not close to 10.

            Did you ever wonder why you get so much opposition every time you post?
            Is everyone else crazy? Or, is it yo........ oh, never mind. Just tell me more about Michael Brantley.
            well since baseball america says my opinion is spot on, id say yeah its because everyone else is crazy. there is just alpt of irrational anti-indians agenda around here and its proba lu because people for some ridiculous reason think chief wahoo is racist.

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            • GamecocksLaw17
              MVP
              • Jun 2015
              • 1503

              #3336
              Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by Archanine
              well since baseball america says my opinion is spot on, id say yeah its because everyone else is crazy. there is just alpt of irrational anti-indians agenda around here and its proba lu because people for some ridiculous reason think chief wahoo is racist.
              Chief Wahoo IS racist. And yeah I misread. That's my bad. The difference between you and I is that I owned up to that mistake. I have not "lied" to anyone in this thread. They very well could win the AL Central they have very good pitching. They also wouldn't be leading a single division in the NL so lets try to temper the expectations a tad bit.


              Baseball America is a good resource. It also isn't gospel. There are other sources to find information. Generally speaking we try not to let biases cloud our judgment. I'm a Braves fan. I don't think Teheran is worth Bregman/Gallo/Moncada/Benintendi etc. Just one example.


              It's super ironic that I am discrediting reliable sources, when I'm not. I just use multiple sources (ESPN, MLB.com, Fangraphs, Baseball Prospectus) but those don't fit your narrative.


              Actually, everyone cares where the players are in the top 100. A guy who is say top 10 (Benintendi) is worth more than a guy in the 20's (Frazier). A pitcher in the top 10 (Urias) is worth more than a guy in the back end of the 50's (Aiken).


              There is no anti-Indians agenda in this thread.

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              • Archanine
                Banned
                • Jul 2016
                • 44

                #3337
                Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                Chief Wahoo IS racist. And yeah I misread. That's my bad. The difference between you and I is that I owned up to that mistake. I have not "lied" to anyone in this thread. They very well could win the AL Central they have very good pitching. They also wouldn't be leading a single division in the NL so lets try to temper the expectations a tad bit.


                Baseball America is a good resource. It also isn't gospel. There are other sources to find information. Generally speaking we try not to let biases cloud our judgment. I'm a Braves fan. I don't think Teheran is worth Bregman/Gallo/Moncada/Benintendi etc. Just one example.


                It's super ironic that I am discrediting reliable sources, when I'm not. I just use multiple sources (ESPN, MLB.com, Fangraphs, Baseball Prospectus) but those don't fit your narrative.


                Actually, everyone cares where the players are in the top 100. A guy who is say top 10 (Benintendi) is worth more than a guy in the 20's (Frazier). A pitcher in the top 10 (Urias) is worth more than a guy in the back end of the 50's (Aiken).


                There is no anti-Indians agenda in this thread.
                first of all its not l. gamecocks is actually more offensive than cheif wahoo. second you didnt own up to your mistake, until it was pointed out to you three times. you not only made the same mistake multiple times, but ignored admitting it multiple times. i have yet to make a mistake to own up too.

                and yes you have lied, when you misquouted me, thats exactly what a lie is by the very definition. and here you go lying again about not lying.

                and Baseball America is the word when it comes to prospects, they are the top subscription source for a reason.

                and yes theres plenty of anti-indians agenda, youve shown it.

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                • GamecocksLaw17
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 1503

                  #3338
                  Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Archanine
                  first of all its not l. gamecocks is actually more offensive than cheif wahoo. second you didnt own up to your mistake, until it was pointed out to you three times. you not only made the same mistake multiple times, but ignored admitting it multiple times. i have yet to make a mistake to own up too.

                  and yes you have lied, when you misquouted me, thats exactly what a lie is by the very definition. and here you go lying again about not lying.

                  and Baseball America is the word when it comes to prospects, they are the top subscription source for a reason.

                  and yes theres plenty of anti-indians agenda, youve shown it.
                  Yes, a fighting chicken is more offensive than using an entire race as a mascot....


                  Everyone knows that a rooster **** fighting is SUPER RACIST.


                  That isn't the point of this thread.


                  Have a good one, I'm actually done with you this time

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                  • Archanine
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 44

                    #3339
                    Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                    Yes, a fighting chicken is more offensive than using an entire race as a mascot....


                    Everyone knows that a rooster **** fighting is SUPER RACIST.


                    That isn't the point of this thread.


                    Have a good one, I'm actually done with you this time
                    notice how i said offensive not racist? you still havent figured out how to read and stop lying yet?
                    Yeah its not like UsC hasnt had mre lawsuits over thier name over the Indians or anything..oh wait..they have ! but keep telling us how cheif wahoo is sooo racist.

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                    • GamecocksLaw17
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2015
                      • 1503

                      #3340
                      Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by Archanine
                      notice how i said offensive not racist? you still havent figured out how to read and stop lying yet?
                      Yeah its not like UsC hasnt had mre lawsuits over thier name over the Indians or anything..oh wait..they have ! but keep telling us how cheif wahoo is sooo racist.
                      1) Literally the first sentence says Offensive. I later used racist because Chief Wahoo is. Whatever you want to spin it is fine.


                      2) It is USC not UsC since we want to be petty.


                      3) I know more about lawsuits than you do.


                      4) Who is mad about fighting chickens, PETA? An entire race is mad about using an Indian as a mascot.


                      I know you're trolling but God this needs to stop. Either post about trade stuff or stop. It isn't that unreasonable to ask to talk about trades in this thread.

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                      • Tmizzle
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 370

                        #3341
                        Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                        So I have three offers out there and I have t choose which one I will do. My latest post showed stats of many of the players.

                        Devin Mesoraco for Wander Javier and Kohl Stewart.

                        With Mesoraco being out all year so far with an injury, I think this may be over doing it with Kohl Stewart but I am taking a chance on him not getting hurt again to be my every day Catcher.

                        Blake Swihart for Adam Walker

                        Swihart was once a valued prospect for the Red Sox but has since fallen off and this year is another year of that as he is rotting in Triple-A while Christian Vaszquez locked down the every day catcher out of spring training and is doing a fine job. I offered Walker (#9 prospect in system) just as a starting price but obviously it is not my final offer and it is my back up plan as well.

                        Patrick Corbin for NIck Gordon, Tyler Jay and Jermaine Palacios

                        This would be the blockbuster deal that would surely help my rotation but this is just a rough draft of it. Like I said before, my main priority is getting Mesoraco.
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                        • GamecocksLaw17
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 1503

                          #3342
                          Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by Tmizzle
                          So I have three offers out there and I have t choose which one I will do. My latest post showed stats of many of the players.

                          Devin Mesoraco for Wander Javier and Kohl Stewart.

                          With Mesoraco being out all year so far with an injury, I think this may be over doing it with Kohl Stewart but I am taking a chance on him not getting hurt again to be my every day Catcher.

                          Blake Swihart for Adam Walker

                          Swihart was once a valued prospect for the Red Sox but has since fallen off and this year is another year of that as he is rotting in Triple-A while Christian Vaszquez locked down the every day catcher out of spring training and is doing a fine job. I offered Walker (#9 prospect in system) just as a starting price but obviously it is not my final offer and it is my back up plan as well.

                          Patrick Corbin for NIck Gordon, Tyler Jay and Jermaine Palacios

                          This would be the blockbuster deal that would surely help my rotation but this is just a rough draft of it. Like I said before, my main priority is getting Mesoraco.
                          So Boston fans love to include Swihart, but Walker doesn't cut it.


                          If you feel like it is overdoing it, you are probably about right on value. I try to overpay in my own franchise but to each their own. A completely healthy Mesoraco is worth more than Stewart, so it is probably alright to take the injury risk. His 2014 was a 4.5 WAR season, and since injuries don't happen as much in The Show as real life I do think it should hurt to acquire him. Maybe even switching to a 50 FV instead of Javier.


                          I don't remember if you posted in season stats for Corbin, if you did sorry I missed it, but I think that seems fair IF the Diamondbacks are out of it. Arizona is hard to judge since they have made some god awful trades lately.

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                          • Archanine
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 44

                            #3343
                            Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                            1) Literally the first sentence says Offensive. I later used racist because Chief Wahoo is. Whatever you want to spin it is fine.


                            2) It is USC not UsC since we want to be petty.


                            3) I know more about lawsuits than you do.


                            4) Who is mad about fighting chickens, PETA? An entire race is mad about using an Indian as a mascot.


                            I know you're trolling but God this needs to stop. Either post about trade stuff or stop. It isn't that unreasonable to ask to talk about trades in this thread.
                            i know what it says, i wrote it. and offensive and racist are different, you are the one spinning it to fit your agenda, just like you do in trade ideas.


                            oh no one letter didnt capital, the horror

                            no you dont. good try though. you dont seem to know much of anything including how to read, thats been proven time and time again here.

                            there is a grand total of zero entire races being upset about cheif wahoo. another lie you made up, like you usually have done in this thread.

                            proving you wrong is trolling? who knew. if you dont like it then leave troll. but you really need to learn how to read and not lie, i know educaton is rare in the south with the lack of chromosomes from the incest, but i promise reading isnt hard.

                            and when you cry and whine for me.to be banned because i hurt your feelings, dont worry, Os has never actually banned me for a reason give it 5 minutes and ill be back to keep calling you out on your lying bull****.

                            the best thing for the site is for you to leave for good

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                            • Tmizzle
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 370

                              #3344
                              Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                              So Boston fans love to include Swihart, but Walker doesn't cut it.


                              If you feel like it is overdoing it, you are probably about right on value. I try to overpay in my own franchise but to each their own. A completely healthy Mesoraco is worth more than Stewart, so it is probably alright to take the injury risk. His 2014 was a 4.5 WAR season, and since injuries don't happen as much in The Show as real life I do think it should hurt to acquire him. Maybe even switching to a 50 FV instead of Javier.


                              I don't remember if you posted in season stats for Corbin, if you did sorry I missed it, but I think that seems fair IF the Diamondbacks are out of it. Arizona is hard to judge since they have made some god awful trades lately.
                              Yea I posted Corbins stats earlier but I can look them up again when I am home from the gym. Yea Mesoraco got hurt in spring training in my season and is about to come back so it is really taking a chance.
                              Follow my Twins franchise http://www.operationsports.com/Tmizzle/dynasty/

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                              • Millennium
                                Franchise Streamer
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 9889

                                #3345
                                Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by Archanine
                                i know what it says, i wrote it. and offensive and racist are different, you are the one spinning it to fit your agenda, just like you do in trade ideas.


                                oh no one letter didnt capital, the horror

                                no you dont. good try though. you dont seem to know much of anything including how to read, thats been proven time and time again here.

                                there is a grand total of zero entire races being upset about cheif wahoo. another lie you made up, like you usually have done in this thread.

                                proving you wrong is trolling? who knew. if you dont like it then leave troll. but you really need to learn how to read and not lie, i know educaton is rare in the south with the lack of chromosomes from the incest, but i promise reading isnt hard.

                                and when you cry and whine for me.to be banned because i hurt your feelings, dont worry, Os has never actually banned me for a reason give it 5 minutes and ill be back to keep calling you out on your lying bull****.

                                the best thing for the site is for you to leave for good
                                You sure are persistent Steelersfan77/MountaineersSon. Why do you make us continue to ban you?
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