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  • Speedy
    #Ace
    • Apr 2008
    • 16143

    #76
    Re: Is Directional hitting working properly?

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    So then the direction the user inputs:

    Does that influence WHERE the ball will go

    or

    Does that move the PCI toward that center of zone?
    Originally posted by Gibson88
    Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
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    • Skyboxer
      Donny Baseball!
      • Jul 2002
      • 20302

      #77
      Re: Is Directional hitting working properly?

      Originally posted by Speedy
      Spoiler


      So then the direction the user inputs:

      Does that influence WHERE the ball will go

      or

      Does that move the PCI toward that center of zone?
      Basically is where batter focuses his swing. .so PCI moves to that area.
      At least that's what the description says.
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      a.k.a. Stephen W. Falken, 5 Tall Cedar Road, Goose Island, Oregon"


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      • nemesis04
        RIP Ty My Buddy
        • Feb 2004
        • 13530

        #78
        Re: Is Directional hitting working properly?

        Originally posted by Speedy
        Spoiler


        So then the direction the user inputs:

        Does that influence WHERE the ball will go

        or

        Does that move the PCI toward that center of zone?
        It is an influence tool up for a fly ball, down for a grounder and left or right to push or pull. Don't think PCI when using this system, just think of the hit result you are trying to accomplish.
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        • Skyboxer
          Donny Baseball!
          • Jul 2002
          • 20302

          #79
          Re: Is Directional hitting working properly?

          Originally posted by nemesis04
          It is an influence tool up for a fly ball, down for a grounder and left or right to push or pull. Don't think PCI when using this system, just think of the hit result you are trying to accomplish.
          Are you sure? Assuming you are.. Confused as description says to move stick to focus in that area of zone....unless I Mis read it.

          Makes sense though since it's called directional hitting.
          Joshua:
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          a.k.a. Stephen W. Falken, 5 Tall Cedar Road, Goose Island, Oregon"


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          • nemesis04
            RIP Ty My Buddy
            • Feb 2004
            • 13530

            #80
            Re: Is Directional hitting working properly?

            Originally posted by Skyboxer
            Are you sure? Assuming you are.. Confused as description says to move stick to focus in that area of zone....unless I Mis read it.

            Makes sense though since it's called directional hitting.
            Your moving the stick in the area you want to concentrate in, that is why there is a camera shift. For example if I am a righty and want to pull the ball I will pull the stick to the left and anything remotely close will get ripped, if the pitch is on the outer half I can still make contact but will probably roll over on it. It really is opposite thinking if you are accustomed to zone hitting, you are not trying to match up a PCI.
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            • Skyboxer
              Donny Baseball!
              • Jul 2002
              • 20302

              #81
              Re: Is Directional hitting working properly?

              Originally posted by nemesis04
              Your moving the stick in the area you want to concentrate in, that is why there is a camera shift. For example if I am a righty and want to pull the ball I will pull the stick to the left and anything remotely close will get ripped, if the pitch is on the outer half I can still make contact but will probably roll over on it. It really is opposite thinking if you are accustomed to zone hitting, you are not trying to match up a PCI.
              Cool. I switched to analog and have been having good success.
              I just like the pci being visual
              Joshua:
              "D.O.D. pension files indicate current mailing as: Dr. Robert Hume,
              a.k.a. Stephen W. Falken, 5 Tall Cedar Road, Goose Island, Oregon"


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              • El_MaYiMbE
                MVP
                • Mar 2003
                • 1427

                #82
                Re: Is Directional hitting working properly?

                Originally posted by nemesis04
                Your moving the stick in the area you want to concentrate in, that is why there is a camera shift. For example if I am a righty and want to pull the ball I will pull the stick to the left and anything remotely close will get ripped, if the pitch is on the outer half I can still make contact but will probably roll over on it. It really is opposite thinking if you are accustomed to zone hitting, you are not trying to match up a PCI.
                With Directional Hitting, you are actually moving stick where you want the ball to go, not necessarily where you want to focus (that is actually what you're doing with Zone Hitting). One could argue these are the samething, but not really. Yes the camera shifts, but that is because the player is "shifting his weight" to pull the push (or hit other way). As a result he will cover less of the opposite direction.

                The camera does not shift when you press up or down (I believe) as the player is not concentrating on top or bottom of the zone, but rather looking to hit ball up or down regardless of where ball is....

                So no, pushing a direction does not change "focus" of hitter. I turn off camera shift as I want to remain centered always while still controlling where I want to influence incoming pitch.

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                • NAFBUC
                  ShowTime!
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1277

                  #83
                  Re: Is Directional hitting working properly?

                  Originally posted by dalger21
                  I tried directional hitting for a couple of games and realized it was just like the past few iterations and went back to zone hitting. It just seems to me that from '13 onward, timing hitting has just been off.
                  Timing hitting has been 'off' since SCEA went directional. I hope they will bring back the basic 'timing' hitting option.

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                  • El_MaYiMbE
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 1427

                    #84
                    Re: Is Directional hitting working properly?

                    Originally posted by NAFBUC
                    Timing hitting has been 'off' since SCEA went directional. I hope they will bring back the basic 'timing' hitting option.
                    I agreed, until 2016.
                    It seems to have been fixed.

                    When I sit back on a hanging curve or changeup and time it perfectly, I do damage more times than not. I think what throws our perception off is the swing info. When we see "Good" timing and still pop out, we think "man thats bs".

                    What I did was turn off swing info...so I do not see PCI or swing feedback.
                    I simply play and let results speak for themselves.

                    You will notice if you do this, and simply let the game playout that by the end of 10 games you will feel like you performed as you'd expect. Checking swing info after every pitch skews your perception I believe.

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                    • nemesis04
                      RIP Ty My Buddy
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 13530

                      #85
                      Re: Is Directional hitting working properly?

                      Originally posted by El_MaYiMbE
                      With Directional Hitting, you are actually moving stick where you want the ball to go, not necessarily where you want to focus (that is actually what you're doing with Zone Hitting). One could argue these are the samething, but not really. Yes the camera shifts, but that is because the player is "shifting his weight" to pull the push (or hit other way). As a result he will cover less of the opposite direction.

                      The camera does not shift when you press up or down (I believe) as the player is not concentrating on top or bottom of the zone, but rather looking to hit ball up or down regardless of where ball is....

                      So no, pushing a direction does not change "focus" of hitter. I turn off camera shift as I want to remain centered always while still controlling where I want to influence incoming pitch.
                      In speaking with the people who created the system the thought process behind directional was coming to the plate with an approach and focusing on a portion of the zone, hence the camera shift. The camera shifts in all directions, up, down, left, right, up on an angle in out and down angle as well.
                      “The saddest part of life is when someone who gave you your best memories becomes a memory”

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                      • Zinger
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 254

                        #86
                        Re: Is Directional hitting working properly?

                        Having just read through this whole thread I'd like to thank El Mayimbe in particular for his many contributions explaining clearly how directional/timing hitting works in this year's game. I agree with him that this method best replicates what a hitter actually does at the plate.

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                        • ChGtXgMs
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 53

                          #87
                          Re: Is Directional hitting working properly?

                          I played Directional hitting for the first 2 days and boy was it hard. Balls just wouldn't get hit right and well my DD team was pretty bad anyways, but when I switched back to Zone hitting(which I played on '15), I was back to crushing balls with 60-70 contact hitters on All-Star.

                          I don't know how Directional hitting works, but it just seems impossible to get hits. I'm pretty sure I had more walks than hits this year using directional, but that is thanks to the Fisheye, what an awesome angle.

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                          • NAFBUC
                            ShowTime!
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 1277

                            #88
                            Re: Is Directional hitting working properly?

                            Originally posted by El_MaYiMbE
                            I agreed, until 2016.
                            It seems to have been fixed.

                            When I sit back on a hanging curve or changeup and time it perfectly, I do damage more times than not. I think what throws our perception off is the swing info. When we see "Good" timing and still pop out, we think "man thats bs".

                            What I did was turn off swing info...so I do not see PCI or swing feedback.
                            I simply play and let results speak for themselves.

                            You will notice if you do this, and simply let the game playout that by the end of 10 games you will feel like you performed as you'd expect. Checking swing info after every pitch skews your perception I believe.
                            Thanks for all your feedback in this thread El_MaYiMbE. I learned alot about directional hitting!

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                            • jcmreds
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 199

                              #89
                              Re: Is Directional hitting working properly?

                              I've used zone hitting forever, but I tried Directional this year and I've stuck with it for several games now. I don't now how this year's Directional hitting compares to years past, but I like the results I'm getting with it this year.

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                              • PsychoBulk
                                Hoping for change...
                                • May 2006
                                • 4191

                                #90
                                Re: Is Directional hitting working properly?

                                Originally posted by nemesis04
                                The camera shifts in all directions, up, down, left, right, up on an angle in out and down angle as well.
                                Unless you turn the camera shift off in the options, as i do

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